BMW 530D Chip

dbyrneryan

Ive recently become the proud new owner of a 2002 BMW 530D M-Sport, loving the luxury, my previous car was a 2000 Toyota Celica VVTL-I (189BHP), and this is my first diesel.

My question is, what company dose the besy "chip" for my car, ive emailed chippedire.com and they said they could get the power up to 245bhp at a reasonable price.

Has anyone dealed with this company before, and are there any other chipping company's around in the dublin area?

legs11

chips are a myth

colm_mcm

legs11 wrote: »

chips are a myth

Care to expand on that?

Chips that increase the bhp and torque of a diesel car don't exist?

legs11

Im just a bit dubious, I mean if they were as good as they are made out to be, then wouldnt all the major marques have them in cars.

slap on a chip and get 30 bhp... ummmmm

colm_mcm

Manufacturers have a different agenda to drivers, they look at emissions, potential strain on other parts, not directly competing with other models within a range etc.


Certainly, the ebay 10 quid resistor chips are nonsense, but chipping and remapping diesel cars is very much a reality.

Henry Ford III

The myth though is that chipping is a motoring Nirvana. More power, torque, and economy, with no loss of reliability.

leeroybrown

legs11 wrote: »

Im just a bit dubious, I mean if they were as good as they are made out to be, then wouldnt all the major marques have them in cars.

It's just a new ECU profile for the engine. Many turbocharged engines respond very well to a remap/chip as quite often in standard tune the engines are run a well inside the limits that the standard parts can survive.

A stock 2002 530D should be putting out 193BHP and should go to about where they say it does without issue.

Matt Simis

legs11 wrote: »

Im just a bit dubious, I mean if they were as good as they are made out to be, then wouldnt all the major marques have them in cars.

slap on a chip and get 30 bhp... ummmmm

You really have no idea what you are talking bout do you? Turbo car + increase boost over stock = more power. Nothing mythical about it.
There are other more specific tunes that exist too, for different Octane levels, ignition timing, economy centric etc, its a massive topic.

What exactly did you think a "chip" was, given you seem to think its a "thing" that marques could add to their car?

daRobot

legs11 wrote: »

Im just a bit dubious, I mean if they were as good as they are made out to be, then wouldnt all the major marques have them in cars.

slap on a chip and get 30 bhp... ummmmm

This post is annoying on a multitude of levels...

niceirishfella

Chipping is REAL.
My 535d is chipped and puts it in M5 territory for power.

Neilw

niceirishfella wrote: »

Chipping is REAL.
My 535d is chipped and puts it in M5 territory for power.

Doubt that very much, it may have more torque then an E60 M5 but it will have far less power.
What does a 535d remap to, 340bhp/500 lb ft? An E60 M5 has 500+bhp

Matt Simis

Older M5's?

Gumbo

legs11 wrote: »

Im just a bit dubious, I mean if they were as good as they are made out to be, then wouldnt all the major marques have them in cars.

slap on a chip and get 30 bhp... ummmmm

sorry to be rude, but you shouldnt post about something you know nothing about.

http://www.chippedire.com/
www.autoremap.ie

i had my 320d done recently and it transformed the car, would really really recommend it.

is your car the 184bhp or 194 bhp version?
either way tou should gain about 35bhp and 100Nm torques easily

some wording from one of the mappers websites :

What is remapping?
Remapping is overwriting original software contained inside a cars ECU (Engine Control Unit) with tuned software. This software is referred to as the engine map because it is this program that controls the engine. Before the advent of serial port remapping the only way to overwrite this software was to replace the chip that contained the software. Now this can all be done by plugging in to the vehicles serial port and overwrite the engine map with the performance version. Remapping is not a gimmick it is a performance conversion that will seriously improve the power & drivability of your engine.


Why don’t the car manufacturers do the remapping in the first place, surely a more powerful engine is a selling point?
This is a very good question, why does a car manufacturer purposely de-tune an engine before they sell it. There are a few reasons for this - one is that the manufacturers have to sell there car all over the world and must de-tune there engines for different fuel grades and atmospheric conditions to prevent engine damage caused by these conditions. They also have to take in to account the average car buyer not every car buyer is like you they don’t all want blistering horsepower from there engine, a new mother for example isn’t going to be too impressed by a VW Golf TDI wheel spinning in third gear when she takes it for a test drive. So they must compromise between out & out performance and general sale ability.

dunkindonuts

legs11 wrote: »

chips are a myth

What are you talking abot, stop bull****ting when you dont know anything about it.

I have a golf gti. I had 200 bhp and now its approx 260. I got it done from chippedire, he is a really nice guy to deal with and it REALLY does work as i have it done to my car and i know the before and after power

dbyrneryan

kceire wrote: »

sorry to be rude, but you shouldnt post about something you know nothing about.

http://www.chippedire.com/
www.autoremap.ie

i had my 320d done recently and it transformed the car, would really really recommend it.

is your car the 184bhp or 194 bhp version?
either way tou should gain about 35bhp and 100Nm torques easily

some wording from one of the mappers websites :

What is remapping?
Remapping is overwriting original software contained inside a cars ECU (Engine Control Unit) with tuned software. This software is referred to as the engine map because it is this program that controls the engine. Before the advent of serial port remapping the only way to overwrite this software was to replace the chip that contained the software. Now this can all be done by plugging in to the vehicles serial port and overwrite the engine map with the performance version. Remapping is not a gimmick it is a performance conversion that will seriously improve the power & drivability of your engine.


Why don’t the car manufacturers do the remapping in the first place, surely a more powerful engine is a selling point?
This is a very good question, why does a car manufacturer purposely de-tune an engine before they sell it. There are a few reasons for this - one is that the manufacturers have to sell there car all over the world and must de-tune there engines for different fuel grades and atmospheric conditions to prevent engine damage caused by these conditions. They also have to take in to account the average car buyer not every car buyer is like you they don’t all want blistering horsepower from there engine, a new mother for example isn’t going to be too impressed by a VW Golf TDI wheel spinning in third gear when she takes it for a test drive. So they must compromise between out & out performance and general sale ability.

ive got the 193bhp version, so chippedire.com is the way to go, thanks guys, cant wait to book my car in now.

niceirishfella

Neilw wrote: »

it may have more torque then an E60 M5 but it will have far less power.

Regardless of power at the wheels, with torque as you rightly say puts it in M5 territory.It also give's me an extra 3mpg or so and more on longer runs,so It'll pay for itself too in real fuel saving terms. My last 530D was chipped too and they bloke who bought it say that as a real plus when buying.
OP, I would disclose it to your insurance co. regardless of what some bar stooler's bang on about here because if you need to claim and you have not disclosed this power upgrade, it may affect you.
My insurance co charged me little more and I have the peace of mind of full disclosure which i did in writing to them also.:)

Gumbo

dunkindonuts wrote: »

What are you talking abot, stop bull****ting when you dont know anything about it.

I have a golf gti. I had 200 bhp and now its approx 260. I got it done from chippedire, he is a really nice guy to deal with and it REALLY does work as i have it done to my car and i know the before and after power

we used www.autoremap.ie

dbyrneryan wrote: »

ive got the 193bhp version, so chippedire.com is the way to go, thanks guys, cant wait to book my car in now.

cool, you'll see a nice gain, either joe in chippedirl or martin in www.autoremap.ie, they both come highly recommended.
i'd say easily 230bhp and mountains of torque

Biro

niceirishfella wrote: »

Regardless of power at the wheels, with torque as you rightly say puts it in M5 territory.It also give's me an extra 3mpg or so and more on longer runs,so It'll pay for itself too in real fuel saving terms. My last 530D was chipped too and they bloke who bought it say that as a real plus when buying.
OP, I would disclose it to your insurance co. regardless of what some bar stooler's bang on about here because if you need to claim and you have not disclosed this power upgrade, it may affect you.
My insurance co charged me little more and I have the peace of mind of full disclosure which i did in writing to them also.:)

Still, it's no M5 matcher.

dbyrneryan

kceire wrote: »

i'd say easily 230bhp and mountains of torque

245bhp!!! and an extra 94nm torque, what that in ft/lbs?

niceirishfella

Biro wrote: »

Still, it's no M5 matcher.

ohhhh dear.................;)

Henry Ford III

Biro wrote: »

Still, it's no M5 matcher.

......if the M5 is being driven in anger.

At normal speeds/gears it might be able to keep up however. Fast in gear pickup is down to torque, of which a well sorted turbo diesel will have plenty.

niceirishfella

Thanks Henry...........my mate in the uk has an M6 and I've no hassles giving it to him.But shure look,Maybe i'm better off with a TDIyoke to be with da masses and get down with da homies. lol

Henry Ford III

niceirishfella wrote: »

Thanks Henry...........my mate in the uk has an M6 and I've no hassles giving it to him.But shure look,Maybe i'm better off with a TDIyoke to be with da masses and get down with da homies. lol

1.9 is a weapon ok

Biro

Henry Ford III wrote: »

......if the M5 is being driven in anger.

At normal speeds/gears it might be able to keep up however. Fast in gear pickup is down to torque, of which a well sorted turbo diesel will have plenty.

If you have an M5, and don't drive it in anger, then what's the point? Don't get me wrong, the 535d chipped is a fantastic machine, and in most ways makes much more sense than an M5. The way diesels deliver their power means that you're getting 90% of the engines performance almost immediately, so effortlessly keeping up with an M5 on a tight road would be doable. You also get a massive benefit in MPG!
But if you own an M5 then you really should be booking track days, and I'm sorry - on a track an M5 will easily walk away from a chipped 535d. There is a big difference in the flat out performance in both.
Ask Mark N for example. He has a 335i, and has compared it to the 335d.

Gumbo

dbyrneryan wrote: »

245bhp!!! and an extra 94nm torque, what that in ft/lbs?

ohh right, i was going by the gains quoted on the chippedire website :

BMW 530d 193 Stock Remapped »

Power (hp) 193 hp To 221 hp
Power (kW) 144 kW To 165 kW

Torque (Nm) 410 Nm To 498 Nm
Torque (ft/lb) 302 ft/lb To 367 ft/lb

Total Gains of 28hp and 88nm Torque »

niceirishfella

Biro wrote: »

on a track an M5 will easily walk away from a chipped 535d

That depends on the talent behind the wheel.;)

dunkindonuts

kceire wrote: »

we used www.autoremap.ie



cool, you'll see a nice gain, either joe in chippedirl or martin in www.autoremap.ie, they both come highly recommended.
i'd say easily 230bhp and mountains of torque

Oh yeah, you are right
Forgot already