why an ironman doesn't appeal to me

thirstywork

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTn1v5TGK_w

christeb

I was just talking to a couple of runners about this yesterday, coninky dink?
Unbelievable watching

TheRoadRunner

I hope the Girl who finished 5th was disqualified she was not fully across the line when she was dragged IMO

uglyjohn

yeah its pretty horrific, this was posted a while ago.

they look so unhealthy, like they have some long term illness.

i dont know what to make of the people who overtake them looking fine.


if you want ironman motivation look at something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7kyufTNTtY&NR=1

shels4ever

That used to be how I got home on a sat night...

thirstywork

shels4ever wrote: »

That used to be how I got home on a sat night...

I still get home that way haha:D

Odysseus

I would personally find that quite inspirational, that video really shows strenght of character; only I can't swim I would like to do an IM.

Krusty_Clown

Oh no.. Don't make me watch that again. It's compulsive heroic horrific viewing. Like watching a train-wreck you know is going to happen.

Seres

i know its terrible , but i find it absolutely hilarious , it makes me laugh every time , the stride of the second women is just ace !

thirstywork

A new form of Chi running:p

Running Bing

Am I the only one more impressed with the women running past them who obviously got their training/nutrition/race strategy right?

Frank3142

Seres wrote: »

i know its terrible , but i find it absolutely hilarious , it makes me laugh every time , the stride of the second women is just ace !

hahaa seeing them run is hilarious its like when im bursting for a $hit.

Stark

I actually can't watch it again. *shudder*

Edit: I just did. I must try that after a sprint tri some time.

Munster_Gal

OMG why would someone put themselves through that

mcdonrob

thirstywork wrote: »

why an ironman doesn't appeal to me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTn1v5TGK_w

I don't expect everyone to understand but I'm sure I'm not the only one here...
but its the prospect of that type of challenge and how I could surmount it is exactly why an ironman does appeal to me.

RacoonQueen

That makes me want to do an IM :pac:

thirstywork

mcdonrob wrote: »

I don't expect everyone to understand but I'm sure I'm not the only one here...
but its the prospect of that type of challenge and how I could surmount it is exactly why an ironman does appeal to me.

For me personally I put myself through soem pain in training and some in races.Most of the pain does tend to happen towards the finish due to pusing your body hard.
For me these two girls have gone past pushing there bodies and their brain cannot even function properly.
If you train properly then you shouldn't suffer as much in a race.
Im not sure if you will get many people on here mcdonrob who find that video appealing and would like to go through what those ladies did.i admire them for finishing !!!

911sc

Thread about this video here, back to October, posted by Amadeus.

Go on, this video make you want to do one even more!

thirstywork

ok you got me hooked now:D

Woddle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo-nbnw8zSI
This clip is what gets me going, must watch till the end

TheRoadRunner

Woddle wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo-nbnw8zSI
This clip is what gets me going, must watch till the end

Guy who came second was asking to be passed. Once you get ahead you never look back. Great finish all the same

mcdonrob

thirstywork wrote: »

For me personally I put myself through soem pain in training and some in races.Most of the pain does tend to happen towards the finish due to pusing your body hard.
For me these two girls have gone past pushing there bodies and their brain cannot even function properly.
If you train properly then you shouldn't suffer as much in a race.
Im not sure if you will get many people on here mcdonrob who find that video appealing and would like to go through what those ladies did.i admire them for finishing !!!

No one wants to go ga-ga.

These 2 people are really exceptional 4th and 5th and were competing at a very high level but you will note that there were people finishing at the same time in much better shape... that's who I want to be in a field where others are imploding.

The appeal for me is that if something is that hard - I mean really hard - then I want to prove to myself that I can do it. I want to plan/train enough to do it without frying my brain.... and if I did it - I'd probably get an M-dot tattoo on my forehead to prove it.

colblimp

I think the reason the two women were like that was because of wrong nutrition plans?

I, too, would love to do an IM but the swim fills me with fear. Can you imagine the emotion crossing the line after a year's training - unreal!

hunnymonster

How many posts do we have saying "I would love to do IM/triathlon but I can't swim"

It's possible to learn how to swim and it's never too late to learn. In fact, I think it is a very valuable skill to have. We have so many places to enjoy swimming in Ireland it's a shame not to take advantage of them. Also from a freedom point of view, it's reassuring to know that you can get yourself out of danger if you do end up in water.

I didn't learn to swim as a kid but in 2006 I signed up for an IM so I got on with it. I've done several IM's and OW swims since then. Zuppylurk only learned to swim in 2005 and he swam the English Channel in 2008.

It's a frustrating process, learning to swim as an adult; As runners we're used to the brute force approach to speed, as a swimmer you'll have to concentrate on technique for a long time before you can introduce any kind of power but it's very rewarding the first time you feel yourself glide along the pool or the first time you swim out of your depth in open water.

Stark

+1. I only started to learn to swim last August or therabouts and can now swim about 3km comfortably. Before that I was doing duathlons and thinking "I'd love to do an actual triathlon, pity I can't swim though". Turning point came when I went for a dip off the 40 foot with a few friends and went into a panic when the current dragged me away from the shore a bit and I wasn't strong enough to pull myself back without assistance. Signed up for lessons after that. (Did the lessons in the NAC, some very good instructors and great value).

locteau

Hi Guys,#

I completed 14 Ironman, with the first one at 18 years old.
From 11 years old to 16 I add an hortopedic corset with a major back problem and wear something like this :

http://www.orthoconcept.com/Images/Troncetcou/Image3.jpg

I had to wear it 23h a day and they told me that I have chance to be paralysed when I will be older. So they advice me to not doing any sports etc.... I did not agree and I had a monthly visit for 3 years with Xray.

I just could not stand it, suffer from cuts, and had to screw and unscrew this thing to go to bathroom etc.., and went back swimming which gave me a great oportunity to take it off. I decided to do everything I could before my back get worst etc....

I then start running and by the age of 13 I was pretty quick runner, and then went to triathlon, and raced a good bit for my country.

At 16 they thought that what maintain my back was my muscles and did advice me to keep training, I met mix advice from the medical core about running but met a medical surgeon who told me that running was bakancing my spin and core and that long distance would put less pressure on my spin than short distance which require more ligament strenght. (this is the short story)

I had my last Im in 2006, got a surgery and now I am ready to rock on it again in China next April, and will certainly do a couple of marathons this year to break 30 marathons.

From my point of view, the body work like an engine, the more you push it on a short distance the more it can over heat, the more your accelarate gently on a longer distance the longest the car will live (from a classic owner like me)

Regarding the swimming I do teach lots of triathletes or people who want to swim and there is no problem what ever age you are, from my 4 year old daughter who can swim a lenght of the pool to soem of the guys over 60 who start triathlon.

Long Life to Ultra sports (study shows that less injuries in endurance sports than any other )

RacoonQueen

I've had tri's at the back of my mind since I started running a couple of years ago, not a strong swimmer though and not that fond of the water, then again couple if years ago I would have said the same about running and before my injury cycling was purely a mode of transport. Now seriously considering a decent bike and maybe trying my hand at a duathlon or two.

Did you start off with normal pool lessons HM? Learning alongside other random beginners like? Have been thinking about getting lessons again for a while but it's something I haven't bothered acting on yet.

hunnymonster

What I did (and I'm not saying this is necessarily the right approach) was to go to the pool a couple of times on my own to get used to the feel of the water. I wasn't scared of the pool but not comfortable at the same time. Then I got 3 one-to-one lessons which got me started. This was enough to get me doing a length of the pool (if rather ungraceful), I went away and worked on this for a month and had another lesson to tidy things up. I repeated this for a while. Last year I had 6 lessons from a really good coach to work on technique even more. The one-to-one lessons are more expensive than a group class. I think I paid €30 per session but for me, it was well worth it.

RacoonQueen

Ta' never thought of one to one lessons actually. Did some lifesaving in college but I packed it in due to how poor I was at swimming.

locteau

Most of the peopel I coach says they find hard to breath.

I answer most of the time : "you mean you don't kick "

Most of breathing problem are due to unbalance body with leg sinking, so when you breath you are dragged down.....

It is very hard to explain on a forum, try to respect a few rules :

- when training break down the training with legs / single arms / arms only.
- when you breath keep you hear on your arm when arm is stretch, if you start the catch or pull too early your head will sink.
- kick your legs when you breath that your have a proper balance (your body be parallele to the water) so that you mouth still be out of the water

The main drill to follow is to do lots of side kick, with one arm on your leg, one arm strecth with you hear on it. Then rotate your head in and out making sure you do not lift your head up but roll it on your arm.

Maybe we should have boards.ie training session......you rent the lane I will come for free if you pay for the cup of tea :rolleyes:

hunnymonster

locteau wrote: »

Maybe we should have boards.ie training session......you rent the lane I will come for free if you pay for the cup of tea :rolleyes:

That's very generous Seb.


off topic: I can't believe your little girl is 4. She was only a tot last time I saw her.

Enduro

Personally, I found the Total Immersion books and drills to be excellent for learning good swimming technique. Their explanation of the theories of good swimming form are fantastic. (And I'm the kind of person who will not pay much attention to advice/coaching unless it can be fully justified)

locteau

Total Immersion is a great tool, but there is nothing new in it.

The concept is taking the best drills from everywhere and put it together, which is a great idea, simple and efficient.

I have many people coming after using their video or books, and it does make some people undertsant the stroke, but some people are a wee bit too perfectionist and try too hard and became more "robotic" swimmers.

It is like a running there are basics, then there is the adpatibility. I mean by this that the video/coach/books are great but the Human biomechanic/physiology are not identical, you can't replicate a drills and technique at 100% but close to it. (Twins for eg do not swim the same, and I use this to differenciate them just by the stroke, even if they have been taught the same)

It is like coaching, the coach should adapt himself to the athletes and not the other way, I saw so many times good athletes, not perfect been break down to suit what the coach want him/her to be......At the end the athlete is teh one to perform, not the coach or the video

tunney

locteau wrote: »

Most of the peopel I coach says they find hard to breath.

I answer most of the time : "you mean you don't kick "

Most of breathing problem are due to unbalance body with leg sinking, so when you breath you are dragged down.....

It is very hard to explain on a forum, try to respect a few rules :

- when training break down the training with legs / single arms / arms only.
- when you breath keep you hear on your arm when arm is stretch, if you start the catch or pull too early your head will sink.
- kick your legs when you breath that your have a proper balance (your body be parallele to the water) so that you mouth still be out of the water

The main drill to follow is to do lots of side kick, with one arm on your leg, one arm strecth with you hear on it. Then rotate your head in and out making sure you do not lift your head up but roll it on your arm.

Maybe we should have boards.ie training session......you rent the lane I will come for free if you pay for the cup of tea :rolleyes:

QFT.

Its all about body position and balance.