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next of kin refuse to carry out cremation wish

  • 25-05-2009 5:22pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭


    Problem: Guy wants to be cremated but next of kin refuse to carry out his wishes because 'it's weird, what would people say, it's not the done thing around here'. He was very close to both sides of the family and simply wants his ashes in both family plots 50/50. How can he ensure his wishes are carried out?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Set him on fire tomorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭truecrippler


    pathway33 wrote: »
    Problem: Guy wants to be cremated but next of kin refuse to carry out his wishes because 'it's weird, what would people say, it's not the done thing around here'. He was very close to both sides of the family and simply wants his ashes in both family plots 50/50. How can he ensure his wishes are carried out?

    Make a will stating he wants to be cremated and give the responsibility to someone else who cares?

    I'm not sure on this type of thing though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,158 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Cut him in half when he is dead.

    Give one half to the family and burn the other half.

    Problem solved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    I wouldn't feel comfortable putting a dead family member or friend's body into an incinerator.






    So, Go get yourself a nice powerul chainsaw and use your imagination


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    Pff, what does he care, he'll be dead.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    pathway33 wrote: »
    Problem: Guy wants to be cremated but next of kin refuse to carry out his wishes because 'it's weird, what would people say, it's not the done thing around here'. He was very close to both sides of the family and simply wants his ashes in both family plots 50/50. How can he ensure his wishes are carried out?

    Does that mean he gets two funerals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    If it's in his will that he wants to be cremated, the next of kin can't go against it can they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    Tell the next of kin to cop the **** on and give him his last wish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Go straight to a reputable funeral director. Express all wishes and pay for same, bring receipt to your solicitor and incorporate details into your will and appoint someone who is sympathetic to your wishes as executor of the will. Job done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    TPD wrote: »
    If it's in his will that he wants to be cremated, the next of kin can't go against it can they?

    afaik you can't have any control over what happens to your remains by putting it in your will.

    However you could write a will that says "if my next of kin cremate me share the money among them equally, otherwise burn the lot".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Kill your Next of Kin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    RoundTower wrote: »
    afaik you can't have any control over what happens to your remains by putting it in your will.

    However you could write a will that says "if my next of kin cremate me share the money among them equally, otherwise burn the lot".

    Oh man, I'm putting loads of riddles on my will!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Those next of kin sound like a right bunch of retards I have to say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    you just hope that no "accidents" with a rather ironic house fire happen to the next of kin - when asked by the guards just tell them there was a cremation!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Oh man, I'm putting loads of riddles on my will!
    Best idea ever. Should have it written in Ancient Egyptian to boot or turn the whole experience into a treasure hunt...
    /sigh I can't wait to die now :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭rednik


    They obviously have no burning desire to carry out his intentions. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Put it in the will that they everything you own goes to the local cat's home if they don't do it. Watch them change their mind then.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Why wouldn't your will be allowed dicate anything to do with the disposal of your corpse? Seems fairly basic to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    RoundTower wrote: »
    afaik you can't have any control over what happens to your remains by putting it in your will.

    However you could write a will that says "if my next of kin cremate me share the money among them equally, otherwise burn the lot".
    You aren't allowed to burn money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    Does that mean he gets two funerals?


    Yes in opposite parts of ireland, another excuse put up by the next of kin


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    Berty wrote: »
    Cut him in half when he is dead.

    Give one half to the family and burn the other half.

    Problem solved.

    That's a rather half-baked idea!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    Actually serious question. I have as of yet made no provisions for my death. Does that mean my next of kin get to decide how my remains are dealt with or is there some "standard" proceedure that they'll have to adhere to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    You aren't allowed to burn money.

    He could put in a clause that says give it all to thebman though.

    That way everyone wins! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    Nevore wrote: »
    Why wouldn't your will be allowed dicate anything to do with the disposal of your corpse? Seems fairly basic to me.


    I suppose you can put it in your will and hope somebody tells the solicitor before you are 6 feet under but what is the solicitor supposed to do. It's not like he can legally stop the burial is it? I thought that was only if there was a criminal investigation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭Captain-America


    Next of kin. What an odd phrase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    pathway33 wrote: »
    I suppose you can put it in your will and hope somebody tells the solicitor before you are 6 feet under but what is the solicitor supposed to do. It's not like he can legally stop the burial is it? I thought that was only if there was a criminal investigation.
    Yeah but usually your solicitor -knows- what's in the will, and one of the first things they do is go get the will, right? I mean, day or three before you're buried anyway, surely they check the will in that time.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    RoundTower wrote: »
    afaik you can't have any control over what happens to your remains by putting it in your will.

    However you could write a will that says "if my next of kin cremate me share the money among them equally, otherwise burn the lot".
    Then theý'd C. U. Burn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    pathway33 wrote: »
    Yes in opposite parts of ireland, another excuse put up by the next of kin

    Do you think it might be a power struggle between the two families to see who he will be buried with?

    If thats the case I'd want to be buried/ cremated in a completely different place. Selfish fcuks probably won't go to visit the grave anyway so what difference does it make to them?

    He could always donate his body to medical science & rightly p!ss them off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭Carlow52


    pathway33 wrote: »
    Problem: Guy wants to be cremated but next of kin refuse to carry out his wishes because 'it's weird, what would people say, it's not the done thing around here'. He was very close to both sides of the family and simply wants his ashes in both family plots 50/50. How can he ensure his wishes are carried out?

    Sort out the tenses here.
    Is the guy brown bread yet or what?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    Carlow52 wrote: »
    Sort out the tenses here.
    Is the guy brown bread yet or what?

    guy is alive. he wants (in the future)

    he was (past) - i.e he was very close to his 4 grandparents who are now all dead

    how can (present tense)

    so his grandparents who he wants to be buried with have all died. he is currently making a will and expects to die in the future


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭da_shivsta


    All I know is that it takes ages for anyone to see the will after someone dies, may be I'm wrong but from what I've seen, it does take a long time. But yea i guess the solicitor would know what was in it, but would he check it in time? I mean it depends on size of place etc, solicitor might not even know that he's dead and family might not actually consult him until the funeral was over. I don't know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,473 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Cremation for me...no way do I want my body buried in the ground for some scumbag to piss on my grave, future generations to dig it up, use it for medical science etc etc.

    Cremate me an throw my ashes over the cliff of Moher.
    It's weird though..if I had to pick the worse way to go it would be burning to death. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    da_shivsta wrote: »
    All I know is that it takes ages for anyone to see the will after someone dies, may be I'm wrong but from what I've seen, it does take a long time. But yea i guess the solicitor would know what was in it, but would he check it in time? I mean it depends on size of place etc, solicitor might not even know that he's dead and family might not actually consult him until the funeral was over. I don't know.

    that's the concern. It could be a month before the solicitor is informed he died. They would only inform the solicitor when they want his money


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    pathway33 wrote: »
    that's the concern. It could be a month before the solicitor is informed he died. They would only inform the solicitor when they want his money

    Ok so if your friend explains the situation to his funeral director telling the funeral director that the solicitor has to be informed immediately of his wishes.
    Or is it possible that the funeral director could sign a legal agreement that will ensure your friends wishes will be carried out?

    This is for Legal Discussions I think. Way too many second guessing & very little humour, even for after hours!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    pathway33 wrote: »
    How can he ensure his wishes are carried out?

    Poltergeism.


    Is that a real word?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭Lirange



    Cremate me an throw my ashes over the cliff of Moher.
    It's weird though..if I had to pick the worse way to go it would be burning to death. :confused:
    Saw a horror short once where everyone thought this fella was dead but he was just in a catatonic state. He couldn't move or talk but was aware of what was going on around him. They cremated him. Poor sod.

    No way I'll be cremated. I remember the footage of soldiers describing the smells in the camps at the conclusion of WWII. I'd rather rot. The embalming process and chemical treatment makes the decomposition process much less morbid. No maggies. Besides strangely it never bothered me that much. I've always thought skeletons were cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,978 ✭✭✭GhostInTheRuins


    Lirange wrote: »
    Saw a horror short once where everyone thought this fella was dead but he was just in a catatonic state. He couldn't move or talk but was aware of what was going on around him. They cremated him. Poor sod.

    I'd rather that than the alternative, ie. being buried alive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭Lirange


    pathway33 wrote: »
    How can he ensure his wishes are carried out?
    stovelid wrote: »
    Poltergeism.
    Oy Pádraig is coming back as a toy clown bitchez!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭Lirange


    I'd rather that than the alternative, ie. being buried alive.
    Would you be so resolute about that after they'd started the incinerators?

    There's this option!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    i'd want my corpse to be used for bio weapon research


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,978 ✭✭✭GhostInTheRuins


    Lirange wrote: »
    Would you be so resolute about that after they'd started the incinerators?

    There's this option!

    You don't see too many of them yokes around the country to be honest.

    I think I would be resolute knowing that a few minutes of agonising pain would save me from days (Oxygen levels permitting) of starvation and madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Put it in the will that they everything you own goes to the local cat's home if they don't do it. Watch them change their mind then.

    I think I've spent too much time on the Internet. I read that as lolcats home. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Oh man, I'm putting loads of riddles on my will!
    Nevore wrote: »
    Best idea ever. Should have it written in Ancient Egyptian to boot or turn the whole experience into a treasure hunt...
    /sigh I can't wait to die now :(

    I'm so putting a treasure map on my will, X marks the spot style, and the X is gonna mark my burial plot cos it's all gonna be buried with me, fukk the lot of 'em :p
    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Put it in the will that they everything you own goes to the local cat's home if they don't do it. Watch them change their mind then.

    My dad might actually be doing that to stop us fighting over who gets the house when he pops his clogs. Wouldn't put it past the crazy bastard either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭TheTubes


    he's probably worried he will come back as a zombie.
    burn him now.


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