Castletroy Cycle Lanes

Furious_Daz

Hi all,

I was just wondering if anyone has noticed the amount of broken glass on the cycle lanes in and around the castletroy area? I cycle to work in castletroy everyday and this is becoming an increasing problem. I've had 2 punctures in the past month and to say I'm pissed off about it would be an understatement.

Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this or has any suggestions on what can be done about it. Thanks!

Berty

Probably more suited to the ranting and raving forum.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1193

It would be(IMHO) likely to be something to do with two fines wines near each other, a young population and.......................the UNIVERSITY.

It would be like telling ducks to stay out of water.

Sorry for your troubles but unfortunately the council and the like would have a claim of malfeasance on this one.

Furious_Daz

Ya thought as much myself. I didn't want to step on anyones toes and blame the students right off but I did notice a massive increase in the amount of glass on the roads after rag week this year. I know its not all students having been one myself until recently. Looks like its something I'll just have to put up with!

Digi_Tilmitt

I've had 3 punctures in the last semester from smashed glass on the cycle lanes on the way to the University. It's a disgrace and there's no point in being politically correct about. The louts that call themselves students (before I get accused of blind labelling, I am also a student) are causing this problem during their drunken binges smashing bottles like savage barbarians all over the public infrastructure that the more civilised of us are trying to use everyday.

The only thing I can of that would solve this would be an increased garda presence in the area at night and a no tolerance policy in regards to the bottle wielding hooligans. But you'd probably have to arrest half the university if you went down that road, so I think we've no choice but to give up.

The root problem is Irish people, which can't be fixed without a dramatic and almost impossible change in the nature of the culture of Irish society.

Luckily I should be emigrating in a year or so, and hopefully will never be coming back.

I'll still have to carry the shame of being Irish wherever I go though. My own people sicken me.

Furious_Daz

I wouldn't go as far as demanding more gaurds in the area or anything like that. Having the council run one of those sweeper trucks over the bike lanes once a week would keep me happy! I do agree though that it is an attitude problem with some Irish people in these cases.

Limerick Dude

Digi_Tilmitt wrote: »

I've had 3 punctures in the last semester from smashed glass on the cycle lanes on the way to the University. It's a disgrace and there's no point in being politically correct about. The louts that call themselves students (before I get accused of blind labelling, I am also a student) are causing this problem during their drunken binges smashing bottles like savage barbarians all over the public infrastructure that the more civilised of us are trying to use everyday.

The only thing I can of that would solve this would be an increased garda presence in the area at night and a no tolerance policy in regards to the bottle wielding hooligans. But you'd probably have to arrest half the university if you went down that road, so I think we've no choice but to give up.

The root problem is Irish people, which can't be fixed without a dramatic and almost impossible change in the nature of the culture of Irish society.

Luckily I should be emigrating in a year or so, and hopefully will never be coming back.

I'll still have to carry the shame of being Irish wherever I go though. My own people sicken me.

Is it lonely up there on your pedestal ?

Baldie

Digi_Tilmitt wrote: »

I've had 3 punctures in the last semester from smashed glass on the cycle lanes on the way to the University. It's a disgrace and there's no point in being politically correct about. The louts that call themselves students (before I get accused of blind labelling, I am also a student) are causing this problem during their drunken binges smashing bottles like savage barbarians all over the public infrastructure that the more civilised of us are trying to use everyday.

The only thing I can of that would solve this would be an increased garda presence in the area at night and a no tolerance policy in regards to the bottle wielding hooligans. But you'd probably have to arrest half the university if you went down that road, so I think we've no choice but to give up.

The root problem is Irish people, which can't be fixed without a dramatic and almost impossible change in the nature of the culture of Irish society.

Luckily I should be emigrating in a year or so, and hopefully will never be coming back.

I'll still have to carry the shame of being Irish wherever I go though. My own people sicken me.

1) Can you not steer your bike around the broken glass?

2) You want to guards to babysit drunk students? You know they're way too busy locking up people with no TV licence/car tax... :rolleyes:

Furious_Daz

Baldie wrote: »

1) Can you not steer your bike around the broken glass?

There is a ton of glass on the roads so its impossible to steer around all of it. The rain also makes it very hard to see.

goingpostal

A good practical tip would be to ensure that ur bike tyres are pumped up very hard at all times. You are much more likely to get a puncture if your tyres are only half or 3/4 inflated. Bike tyres can take a lot more pressure than we sometimes think.

Jumpy

Its election time. Get complaining.

Berty

Baldie wrote: »

1) Can you not steer your bike around the broken glass?

Furious_Daz wrote: »

There is a ton of glass on the roads so its impossible to steer around all of it. The rain also makes it very hard to see.

Anyway, we would only knock him down if we were not prepared for his avoidance tactics.

fudgez

I walk... less stress and no punctures although i must admit every so often a stone gets in my shoe..... but hey thats just a fact of life like bikes getting punctures no point stressing

Chilll dude

Builderfromhell

One of the reasons for so much broken glass on cycle lanes is the cycle lane design.
As cars do not drive on the cycle lane they do not push debris such as glass to the side. On a normal road cars and trucks would push debris off the road.
In Europe a lot of cycle lanes are seperated fromthe main roads by grass margins. This keeps road debris from being blown onto cycle lanes as is the case in Ireland.

concussion

Berty wrote: »

Probably more suited to the ranting and raving forum.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1193

Cyclists are legally required to use cycle paths (when correctly signed). It's a perfectly reasonable to ask for advice on this issue...how exactly is this a rant??

goingpostal

A lot of the cycle lanes in Limerick were obviously designed by someone who has never cycled around Limerick/someone who has a pathological hatred of cyclists/both.......

Furious_Daz

fudgez wrote: »

I walk... less stress and no punctures although i must admit every so often a stone gets in my shoe..... but hey thats just a fact of life like bikes getting punctures no point stressing

Chilll dude

Getting a stone in your shoe doesn't make you 45 minutes late for work whenever it happens so not really the same thing.

Furious_Daz

Builderfromhell wrote: »

One of the reasons for so much broken glass on cycle lanes is the cycle lane design.
As cars do not drive on the cycle lane they do not push debris such as glass to the side. On a normal road cars and trucks would push debris off the road.
In Europe a lot of cycle lanes are seperated fromthe main roads by grass margins. This keeps road debris from being blown onto cycle lanes as is the case in Ireland.

I never thought about that. There does seem to be less glass on the lanes seperated from the road. Still enough there to cause trouble though.

Thanks for the replies guys, think I might just corner any election candidates that come to my door about this issue and see where it gets me.

tomcollins97

Digi_Tilmitt wrote: »

I've had 3 punctures in the last semester from smashed glass on the cycle lanes on the way to the University. It's a disgrace and there's no point in being politically correct about. The louts that call themselves students (before I get accused of blind labelling, I am also a student) are causing this problem during their drunken binges smashing bottles like savage barbarians all over the public infrastructure that the more civilised of us are trying to use everyday.

The only thing I can of that would solve this would be an increased garda presence in the area at night and a no tolerance policy in regards to the bottle wielding hooligans. But you'd probably have to arrest half the university if you went down that road, so I think we've no choice but to give up.

The root problem is Irish people, which can't be fixed without a dramatic and almost impossible change in the nature of the culture of Irish society.

Luckily I should be emigrating in a year or so, and hopefully will never be coming back.

I'll still have to carry the shame of being Irish wherever I go though. My own people sicken me.

You have a cyle lane which you don't pay for (i.e. no motor tax). Is that not good enough for you? Do you also want tax money going to keep them 'clean'?

Furious_Daz

tomcollins97 wrote: »

You have a cyle lane which you don't pay for (i.e. no motor tax). Is that not good enough for you? Do you also want tax money going to keep them 'clean'?

Just because we don't pay a specific 'cycle lane tax' doesn't mean that our tax money wasn't used in their construction so yes, the least that could be done is keeping them clean. Once a week or once a month with a road sweeper around the castletroy area would probably take an hour. Not much of your taxpayers money there...

Digi_Tilmitt

tomcollins97 wrote: »

You have a cyle lane which you don't pay for (i.e. no motor tax). Is that not good enough for you? Do you also want tax money going to keep them 'clean'?

I was appealing for Irish people to be more civilised and not smash bottles all over the place rather than requesting any government cleaning initiative, which shouldn't be necessary if Irish people were civilised.

Tockman

i use the cycle lanes on university road often and noticed that the council sweep it every monday. also dont bother using the cyclelane past the graveyard. might end up in there if i did

Furious_Daz

Tockman wrote: »

i use the cycle lanes on university road often and noticed that the council sweep it every monday. also dont bother using the cyclelane past the graveyard. might end up in there if i did

I cycle to work Monday to Friday and have never seen any sweepers in the area. I've also noticed the same smashed bottle on the side of the road on my route to work for the past 2 weeks. Maybe the university looks after the lanes on its property but the main roads are neglected as far as I can tell.

Limerick Dude

Digi_Tilmitt wrote: »

I was appealing for Irish people to be more civilised and not smash bottles all over the place rather than requesting any government cleaning initiative, which shouldn't be necessary if Irish people were civilised.

Every country has university students who smash bottles, its a fact of life.

concussion

tomcollins97 wrote: »

You have a cyle lane which you don't pay for (i.e. no motor tax). Is that not good enough for you? Do you also want tax money going to keep them 'clean'?

His tax money pays for roads, cycle lanes and everything else. Get off your high horse about motor tax, it's not specifically used to build roads.

concussion

Hi all,

I was just wondering if anyone has noticed the amount of broken glass on the roads in and around the castletroy area? I drive to work in castletroy everyday and this is becoming an increasing problem. I've had 2 punctures in the past month and to say I'm pissed off about it would be an understatement.

Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this or has any suggestions on what can be done about it. Thanks!

I wonder how the thread would have gone if this was the first post....

Digi_Tilmitt

Limerick Dude wrote: »

Every country has university students who smash bottles, its a fact of life.

Having lived in Japan I can assure you there are no such problems there.

adaminho

tomcollins97 wrote: »

You have a cyle lane which you don't pay for (i.e. no motor tax). Is that not good enough for you? Do you also want tax money going to keep them 'clean'?

You have a footpath which you don't pay motor tax for. I bet if it was filled with dog dirt and broken glass you'd want the council to clean it up!

Limerick Dude

Digi_Tilmitt wrote: »

Having lived in Japan I can assure you there are no such problems there.

So you can tell me for a fact that students in Japan dont get drunk and roam around at night? Get a grip.

Digi_Tilmitt

Limerick Dude wrote: »

So you can tell me for a fact that students in Japan dont get drunk and roam around at night? Get a grip.

Yes.