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VRT Question

  • 24-05-2009 2:25pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5


    Hi this is my first time posting here I wonder can anyone clear up a problem I have. I imported a 1.3 1995 civic from Japan back in october, but its being lying in my garden since without vrt as I have being waiting to sell my own car before i did it. Last Friday I finally sold my car after months of trying, thats when i got a shock. I checked the vrt calculator on the website and it said the vrt for my car is 560 euro how can this be right i checked it only a few months ago and it was 320 euro i also paid the vrt on a 1.6 integra a few months ago and it only came to something like 400 euro. Did the government increase the vrt without me knowing and will it effect me as i imported the car back in october under the impression vrt would only be 320 euro. I think this is a disgrace if i have to pay 560 euro vrt on 1.3 car that is 14 years old does anybody know if this is right. Thanks for your time.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    i would imagine its because of its CO2 emmissions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Liam2009


    As far as i know the new co2 laws came in before i checked the vrt calculator a few months ago when it said i would have to pay 320 euro. is there anybody who can clear this up thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭carface


    Can you let us know what arrangement you had with customs to hold an unregistered car from outside eu for nearly 8 months untill you manage to gather 320euro while the rest of the country are compelled by law to clear there cars by the end of the next working day. Did you expect the government to ask your permission to increase the vrt??? pay your vrt due and appeal to revenue if you feel hard done by.
    al the best


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Liam2009


    Im 18 and am still in school i didnt have 320 euro to vrt it. as the car market collapsed i couldnt sell my own car to get the money together to vrt it tax it and nct it. The car has being sitting in my garden untouched the customs dont have a problem once your not driven it. Anyway who do you think you are i no the law i dont need you telling me what i can or cant do because your on some internet power trip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    The VRT prices that the calculator gives are accurate only at that exact point in time. The OMSP (Open Market Selling Price) that the calculator is using for the car has probably been increased. There's nothing much that you can really do about it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Liam2009


    Yea that must be it thanks il find out in the next few days anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭Churchy


    If the VRT went down would you have posted?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    carface wrote: »
    Can you let us know what arrangement you had with customs to hold an unregistered car from outside eu for nearly 8 months untill you manage to gather 320euro while the rest of the country are compelled by law to clear there cars by the end of the next working day. Did you expect the government to ask your permission to increase the vrt??? pay your vrt due and appeal to revenue if you feel hard done by.
    al the best
    Get down from your high horse!
    According to the OP it has been parked on private property and therefore not subject to VRT until it is first used on a public road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,158 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    I dont know what to tell you but

    using simple maths it appears that if you were originally only able to save €45 a month then its going to take you another 6 months unless you can pony up the rest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,620 ✭✭✭Graham_B18C


    Churchy wrote: »
    If the VRT went down would you have posted?
    Why would he of?! He wanted to find out why it's gone up, he wouldn't of cared if it'd gone down, if you went in to buy something and it was actually cheaper than you first expected, would you complain? I know I'd be curious as to why this happened if I was in their shoes but I reckon the OMSP must of gone up, I think the amount being imported affects the VRT price too.


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  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    carface wrote: »
    Can you let us know what arrangement you had with customs to hold an unregistered car from outside eu for nearly 8 months untill you manage to gather 320euro while the rest of the country are compelled by law to clear there cars by the end of the next working day. Did you expect the government to ask your permission to increase the vrt??? pay your vrt due and appeal to revenue if you feel hard done by.
    al the best

    Such utter rubbish!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    kbannon wrote: »
    Get down from your high horse!
    According to the OP it has been parked on private property and therefore not subject to VRT until it is first used on a public road.
    Are you sure? My understanding is that VRT is payable by the next business day following importation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Are you sure? My understanding is that VRT is payable by the next business day following importation.

    Correct.
    OP, pay the extra VRT, get your car in order and enjoy being hassle free. Lifes too short.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭JimmyCrackCorn!


    carface wrote: »
    Can you let us know what arrangement you had with customs to hold an unregistered car from outside eu for nearly 8 months untill you manage to gather 320euro while the rest of the country are compelled by law to clear there cars by the end of the next working day. Did you expect the government to ask your permission to increase the vrt??? pay your vrt due and appeal to revenue if you feel hard done by.
    al the best

    If its not on the road you dont have to pay VRT.
    A car does not have to be registered to remain on private property.

    If its driven on public roads then yes VRT is due.

    Duty is due when it enters the country regardless of registration.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 329 ✭✭Leaderbored


    If its not on the road you dont have to pay VRT.
    I was always under the impression that VRT is due on importation. I did it some years ago, and got the info from
    The revenue website . This site currently says that
    if you bring a vehicle into Ireland from abroad you must register it and pay VRT by the end of the next working day following its arrival in the State.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    If its not on the road you dont have to pay VRT.
    A car does not have to be registered to remain on private property.

    If its driven on public roads then yes VRT is due.

    Duty is due when it enters the country regardless of registration.
    Not true, i'm afraid. As per Leaderbored's link, the OP was liable for VRT from the next business day following importation of the car - ie last October.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,620 ✭✭✭Graham_B18C


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Not true, i'm afraid. As per Leaderbored's link, the OP was liable for VRT from the next business day following importation of the car - ie last October.
    But is this enforced? Like if he went to pay his VRT and explained that it hasn't been on the road since it came in, would they charge extra?

    One thing though, why import a 95 1.5 Civic? Could you not get one here cheaper than Japan? After all the shipping, VAT, VRT and paperwork costs, I can't imagine you'd save anything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Grahamo999 wrote: »
    But is this enforced? Like if he went to pay his VRT and explained that it hasn't been on the road since it came in, would they charge extra?
    No, the VRO just take the money when you present for payment. It's also very unlikely that the car would be impounded if it's not in use/in a public place. This doesn't change the fact that the OP was liable for VRT from last October, though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Liam2009


    Well i paid the vrt today and it was 560 euro but what can you do. Anyway nothing was mentioned about the VRT not being paid up until now as like i said it was parked in my garden untouched. It was my first time importing a car and it was before the market collapsed, and these cars were going for alot more then they are now. Thats why i imported it plus the fact it is completely standard with very low miles and hasnt being driven into the ground by some idieot. Anyway thanks to everyone who replied with helpfull advice.


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