Gait Analysis at Runways Shop (Dub)

kennyb3

Anyone had it done? where they anygood or where should i go?

having trouble with achilles pain and although this might not be the cause of it i want to try do everything to get the tendon right so i can train properly and asap

Thanks

christeb

Got it done here, very brief but I'm pretty sure I was diagnosed correctly, have certainly had no foot / lower leg pain since (not that I really had before).

hawkwing

Got it done there about 3 weeks ago. Was using 21xx asics with no real problems but was curious as i never had analysis done.Lad was nice and explained things well and said i was more neutral and the Nimbus would be ok.Got a pair online as they were 115e there and tried them for first time yesterday and they seem ok too.It was free and worth a visit i think.

tunney

very hit and miss depends on who you get.

Phrio

Havent had it done myself but I hear good things about this place in Bray, 3 out of the 4 people I run with got them and say they are very good.

Don't believe in the stuff myself, we ran in our bare feet for hundreds of thousands of years just fine so think all this is just adding to the problems we give ourself with runners etc..

Prob wrong but there ya go

mitresize5

four people I know (including myself) who went for gait analysis with a very well know podiatrist in Ennis was prescribed very expensive orthotics that have set in the back of the wardrobe since ..... IMHO a bit of a racket.

Again IMHO your money is better spend on sports massage/physical thearpy/physio to resolve and issues you have. At least your body is correcting itself rather than relying on artificial stimulus

911sc

Got one done there few months ago. I was dealing with Ash, who knows his stuff. I went one morning during the week and tried 5 or 6 pairs, and Ash had no problem me trying the same pairs few time. He really was not rushing me.
Ended up with a pair of Brooks, which were also "approved" by physio (was having hip/knee pb at the same) as being a very good option for me.
Happy customer.

thirstywork

couple points here
1.just because he doesnt rush you doesnt mean he knows what he is doing.
2.yes we ran in bare feet hundreds of years ago but fact is we train in
runners and in order to see what type a gait analysis is done in the bare feet in order to see how are biomehanics are.
3.tunney right and this goes for anywhere doing gait analysis,there we always be someone better than others but at the end of the day if they give you advise which is correct then you are a winner reagrding gait analysis.
4.anyone who comments on a gait analysis having never got one in my opinion should say nothing.

Running Bing

Is the gait analysis you get done in shops really that complicated?

I mean as far as I can tell they look at you run and decide you either supinate, overpronate or are neutral and then point you in the direction of the Adidas/Asics/Nike shoes to suit your foot type.

I got it done in Elvery's....Happy with the results but again I dont think its anything ground breaking.


Must say Im not a fan of these fancy chunky running shoes (I dont understand why the heel is so big on them?) and I think I might gradually try to work towards doing my training in racing flats (or at least a very lightweight low profile trainer) as a long term goal.

thirstywork

There is alot more to doing a gait analysis than you think.
Getting a persons background regarding injuries and the type of training
they do are important.
Large heel on the back???have a pair of nike pegasus from 1984 on e right now and the heel is actually larger then that it is now.
Also why would you train in aracing shoe as they break down alot faster than a traditional training shoe and also will lead to impact injuries if training on a road surface(might get away with it on grass)
doing a gait ananlysis involves looking at the upper body,helping the person improve their running form.Everything had a knock on affect regarding injuries and usually its not the area that is hurting is the root to the problem.
Gait analysis can be done in many ways(regarding technology)
BUT the person doing it needs a good understanding of the shoes and what works for differen't people.

Running Bing

thirstywork wrote: »

There is alot more to doing a gait analysis than you think.
Getting a persons background regarding injuries and the type of training
they do are important.

Dont get me wrong thristywork,

I understand that technically what is going on is quite a complex thing but it seems to me that with running shops its a case of just looking at what way the foot is landing, telling you your an overpronator and recommending motion control shoes.

At the end of the day Nike/Adidas/Asics/etc will have shoes for supinators, overpronators and people who are neutral....is there really that much difference between the respective models?

Large heel on the back???have a pair of nike pegasus from 1984 on e right now and the heel is actually larger then that it is now.

Do you think that is the exception or the rule?

I have worn Kayanos and Nike equalons and both have huge heels. I dont understand this because I barely use the heels of the shoe.

Also why would you train in aracing shoe as they break down alot faster than a traditional training shoe and also will lead to impact injuries if training on a road surface(might get away with it on grass)

I do most of my running on grass or a track but I just feel todays built up shoes are too restrictive and lead to weakness and imbalance. Basically I think god can design a better foot than Nike can a shoe and I would like to get to the point where my legs/feet are strong enough to behave naturally in the way they were intended.

I believe if you run with the correct stride and are light on your feet the less shoe the better (people did run before Asics duosole or whatever was invented;)).

thirstywork

you make some very valis points and i agree with most.
But you are an exception to the vast majority of runners.
Running shoes are made with the GENERAL runner in mind and
not someone with good biomechanics like yourself.

I don't think the old pegasus is an exception to the rule,mayeb you can prove me wrong here.one of the biggest improvements in shoes from the 80's is the heel being rounded at the back.No longer is there a long lever arm and pivot edge to force the foot to either land straight up or on its side causing ankle sprains or soft tissue and ligament strains to this area.
the natural gait is to land on the outside heel and this curviture of the heel helps reduce impact and help with the foot at its point of contact.

thirstywork

thirstywork

thirstywork

one thing i will say about running shoes right now is way too many people are wearing a support or motion control shoe and maybe this is not needed,therefore not allowing the foot to move naturally and resticting the foots natural role.The foot becomes weak and this can lead to many issues regarding injuries.
How many pople do i ask the question ''what shoe are you currently wearing''
customer ''asics kayano''
me:any particular reason why you are wearing this shoe''???
customer:''my friend is a runner and he said its a great shoe''

ManFromAtlantis

anyone know if anywhere near galway where it can be done. and how nuch does it cost? tks.

thirstywork

Elverys do it in galway retail park:D

Running Bing

thirstywork wrote: »

one thing i will say about running shoes right now is way too many people are wearing a support or motion control shoe and maybe this is not needed,therefore not allowing the foot to move naturally and resticting the foots natural role.The foot becomes weak and this can lead to many issues regarding injuries.
How many pople do i ask the question ''what shoe are you currently wearing''
customer ''asics kayano''
me:any particular reason why you are wearing this shoe''???
customer:''my friend is a runner and he said its a great shoe''

Haha so true. My first shoe was the Kayano...the reason? it got a best buy award in Runners World:P

But you are an exception to the vast majority of runners.
Running shoes are made with the GENERAL runner in mind and
not someone with good biomechanics like yourself.

I think your right but I think this is the wrong way to go about it. To me its like making a golf club with the head at a 45 degree angle for the golfer with a slice, it may cure the problem initially but its going to lead to some serious problems with the swing and the golfer will never reach their full potential.

To me (and I admit I dont know loads about this) running on the heels is wrong yet modern shoes (and I mean shoe from the 80's on) seem to encourage this sort of running. When I bought my Kayanos I actually made a concious effort to try and run on my heels because I thought this was the correct way to do it:eek:

Running on the heels over a long period of time could potentially do serious damage and will mean the runner is never as efficient as they should be and yet running companies seem to be actively promoting this as an ok way to run.

I tend to be quite cynical about the claims of shoe companies. Just the other day I was looking at shoes on the net and one of the product descriptions mentioned that "the shoe is now lighter thanks to the removal of redundant stability features":eek: If they were redundant why are they there in the first place!

thirstywork

I run on my forefoot but as i become fatigued i land on my heel.
I agree with you about running efficently would mean running on the mid foot.
In an earlier post it was said doing a gait analysis is easy,i totally disagree
with thsi as there are son many things to consider,weight,injuries,distance running ect.
The fact is most runners land on their heels and the running shoes are accomodating this.

Running Bing

thirstywork wrote: »

I run on my forefoot but as i become fatigued i land on my heel.
I agree with you about running efficently would mean running on the mid foot.
In an earlier post it was said doing a gait analysis is easy,i totally disagree
with thsi as there are son many things to consider,weight,injuries,distance running ect.
The fact is most runners land on their heels and the running shoes are accomodating this.

Maybe I could've worded my post better.


What I meant is that although Gait analysis might be a very complex thing with many things to consider (I dont doubt this for a second) in running shops how much of this is really relevant because once your diagnosed as lets say an overpronator how much of a difference is there between an Asics motion control shoe and a Nike motion control shoe?

thirstywork

I fully understand what you are saying but thats where you are wrong.
I have seen massive differences lets say between an asics evolution and a Brooks beast
there is soem big differneces between these shoes even though they might be in the same category.
Take a look at the link below and read how much info there si on these shoes.

http://www.brooksrunning.com/media/pdf_specs/1100521D.pdf

Running Bing

thirstywork wrote: »

I fully understand what you are saying but thats where you are wrong.
I have seen massive differences lets say between an asics evolution and a Brooks beast
there is soem big differneces between these shoes even though they might be in the same category.
Take a look at the link below and read how much info there si on these shoes.

http://www.brooksrunning.com/media/pdf_specs/1100521D.pdf

I hold my hands up then.


I was really just going by my experience. When I did the analysis the fella just said to me I overpronate and asked me whether I prefer Asics, Adidas or Nike shoes and proceeded to show me the shoes from each manufacturer that would suit my foot type.


But again my main gripe is with modern running shoes....does a running shoe really need all the ****e in the Brooks beast?:eek: The things are huge which really cant be much of a help when running.

thirstywork

we all have our opinions i suppose but i don't see many people running in their bare feet these days:D

little mazungo

thirstywork wrote: »

we all have our opinions i suppose but i don't see many people running in their bare feet these days:D

we have a parents to blame for this, feckers putting shoes on are feet:D
making them week and dependent on cushioning

why couldnt they let us run in the bare like the east africans:D

Running Bing

thirstywork wrote: »

we all have our opinions i suppose but i don't see many people running in their bare feet these days:D

I dont know...it seems to be catching on on here recently:D

thirstywork

yehh saw cfitz went for a barefoot run lol

little mazungo

thirstywork wrote: »

yehh saw cfitz went for a barefoot run lol

yeah his new name is kip cfitztuni,

thirstywork

classic stuff little mazungo:D

ManFromAtlantis

thirstywork. thanks for the tip re headford rd, galway ,on gait analysis . did u get it done? does it take long ? whats the prcoedure. tks