dont know if this is a baragin ,but to me it was.

dirtynosebeps

just bought a panasonic blu- ray player from powercity. went in asked about it, was told it was down from €379.99 to €264.99 then asked the sales guy if he could bring it down any further. he looked at the computer and said it was down to €199.95 at which point i jumped at it.
http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-15-BD35EB
to me it seemed a good bargain anyway

zod

extra 100 .. ps3 does a few extra things

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=60242021&postcount=10

jesus_thats_gre

zod wrote: »

extra 100 .. ps3 does a few extra things

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=60242021&postcount=10

Does a few less too...

Keith C

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Does a few less too...

such as?

jenno86

Where can ya get a PS3 FOR €299?

Soarer

Keith C wrote: »

such as?

Play bd's as well as a stand alone bd player!

Ogham

dirtynosebeps wrote: »

just bought a panasonic blu- ray player from powercity. went in asked about it, was told it was down from €379.99 to €264.99 then asked the sales guy if he could bring it down any further. he looked at the computer and said it was down to €199.95 at which point i jumped at it.
http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-15-BD35EB
to me it seemed a good bargain anyway

Good price - andt the same one is available at Amazon for 199 euro too including delivery and Irish VAT:)

Snakeblood

Soarer wrote: »

Play bd's as well as a stand alone bd player!

PS3's are consistently reviewed as one of the better bluray players on the market. At least, they were up to a year ago. And the firmware is upgradeable easily.

TakeTheVeil

Give it a rest, people know about the PS3, some people dont want one. This is a good price for a very good Blu-Ray player

Snakeblood

TakeTheVeil wrote: »

Give it a rest, people know about the PS3, some people dont want one. This is a good price for a very good Blu-Ray player

A brilliant idea if you want someone to stop talking about something is to not respond, thereby not prolonging the discussion.

MrMojoRising

no-one wants to hear about crappy ps3s snakeblood

Snakeblood

MrMojoRising wrote: »

no-one wants to hear about crappy ps3s snakeblood

I didn't bring it up, I corrected someone who was wrong about hardware. Again, if you don't like the discussion continuing, then don't continue it.

Biro

An excellent player at a good price OP, good buy. Don't mind the PS3 comments, this player is a lot better than a PS3 for blu-ray playback. Don't take my word for it though, read the reviews from people who know what they're talking about.

Soarer

Snakeblood wrote: »

I didn't bring it up, I corrected someone who was wrong about hardware. Again, if you don't like the discussion continuing, then don't continue it.

Sorry there bucko, but how did you correct me?

Snakeblood

Soarer wrote: »

Sorry there bucko, but how did you correct me?

I said you were wrong, and that up to the last year, PS3s were generally regarded as being one of the better BD players on the market.

I don't care if he eats bluray players. I don't want him to buy or not buy a PS3, but it being a decent player is not really debatable.

The BD-P1600's video chipset is different from--and unfortunately not as good as the Silicon Optix Reon chip (used by the Samsung BD-P2500 we tested last year). When playing Blu-ray discs, the BD-P1600 sent very good but not spectacular images to our HDTV, regularly besting our reference player, a PlayStation 3, by a slim margin. "Just a hair sharper than the PS3" I noted while watching a Mission: Impossible III scene (chapter 7) involving a lot of camera movement and detailed architecture.

From a review of a Bluray player, April 09: http://www.infoworld.com/t/consumer-electronics/samsung-bd-p1600-blu-ray-disc-player-165

If the player sucked, they won't use it as a reference player, will they?


And in the name of god, let's end this here.

Leaderbored

Snakeblood wrote: »

PS3's are consistently reviewed as one of the better bluray players on the market. At least, they were up to a year ago.

Snakeblood wrote: »

I said you were wrong, and that up to the last year, PS3s were generally regarded as being one of the better BD players on the market.

Why the stipulation that they were good only up to last year?

Snakeblood

Leaderbored wrote: »

Why the stipulation that they were good only up to last year?

That's when I bought mine and was checking reviews because I wanted a decent Bluray player.
Edit:
And with that I'm ducking out of this. I was just saying they were as good as many (not all) standalones, not that anyone should buy them over anything else.

Soarer

Snakeblood wrote: »

I said you were wrong, and that up to the last year, PS3s were generally regarded as being one of the better BD players on the market.

I don't care if he eats bluray players. I don't want him to buy or not buy a PS3, but it being a decent player is not really debatable.

The BD-P1600's video chipset is different from--and unfortunately not as good as the Silicon Optix Reon chip (used by the Samsung BD-P2500 we tested last year). When playing Blu-ray discs, the BD-P1600 sent very good but not spectacular images to our HDTV, regularly besting our reference player, a PlayStation 3, by a slim margin. "Just a hair sharper than the PS3" I noted while watching a Mission: Impossible III scene (chapter 7) involving a lot of camera movement and detailed architecture.

From a review of a Bluray player, April 09: http://www.infoworld.com/t/consumer-electronics/samsung-bd-p1600-blu-ray-disc-player-165

If the player sucked, they won't use it as a reference player, will they?

That still doesn't make me wrong though!

As for the link you posted above, if that's the best you can find in favour of the PS3, it doesn't do much for your agrument. If they're using a games machine as a reference bd player, you'd have to take what they say with a pinch of salt. And surely, if after "regularly besting our reference player, a PlayStation 3, by a slim margin" they don't use the BDP1600 as their reference from now on, they haven't got much of a point of reference.

The PS3 is very good at what it does. But if someone is looking for a bd player, why should they spend €400+ (dunno what price PS3's are!) on a PS3 just to watch movies? Just because the PS3 also plays games, surfs the web, etc. doesn't make it a better buy...especially at double the money.
The example you gave above is half the price of the PS3, and has a better picture....which is what high-def is all about. Imagine what the results would be if they compared a $500 bd player to the PS3.

I can post links supporting my case too...like this, and this.

In the beginning, when standalone players were expensive, the PS3 was the obvious choice for someone looking for a bd player as it was the same price, plus you could do games/internet.
But with the prices and quality of standalone players now, the PS3 is only a viable option for people who want games/internet and bd playback.

OP, you did the right thing in buying the BD35. Put the few hundred euro you saved by not buying the PS3 towards an amp and speakers, and enjoy!:D

Edit: Still can't believe they use a PS3 as a reference Bluray player!

nice1franko

Soarer wrote: »

why should they spend €400+ (dunno what price PS3's are!) on a PS3 just to watch movies? Just because the PS3 also plays games, surfs the web, etc. doesn't make it a better buy...especially at double the money.

as mister zod said earlier, they're 297 euro.

The op got a bargain.

The ps3 @ 297 is a bargain.

They're not mutually exclusive bargains - it just depends on what you want.

Sleipnir

dirtynosebeps wrote: »

just bought a panasonic blu- ray player from powercity. went in asked about it, was told it was down from €379.99 to €264.99 then asked the sales guy if he could bring it down any further. he looked at the computer and said it was down to €199.95 at which point i jumped at it.
http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-15-BD35EB
to me it seemed a good bargain anyway

That's because the 35 has been superceded by a newer model the BD60 but tbh, there's not that much difference between the two.
Still a great player, I have one myself.

Sleipnir

zod wrote: »

extra 100 .. ps3 does a few extra things

Yeah, makes noise.

Soarer

nice1franko wrote: »

as mister zod said earlier, they're 297 euro.

The op got a bargain.

The ps3 @ 297 is a bargain.

They're not mutually exclusive bargains - it just depends on what you want.

Still 50% more expensive.

I see what you're saying though. It just bugs me when, as soon as bluray players are mentioned, fanboys come out of the woodwork swearing by the PS3.
I'm not knocking the PS3 by any means. It's very good at everything it does. I'd imagine too that, at this stage, most people looking for a bd player would've heard/know of the PS3.
But, as is always the way with technology, there are cheaper/better alternatives available.

Syferus

Sleipnir wrote: »

Yeah, makes noise.

Ironically, the PS3 is known to be one the quietest and built built media players on the market.

This thread brought up a large degree of anti-PS3 sentiment, even though the main propendent of it in this thread was anything but a frothing-at the-mouth zealot.

To put it plainly - if you're in the market for a Blu-ray player and have any interest in games or a multi-media hub - the PS3 has a 80GB HDD as standard and they're easily upgradable - then it's worth your while to seriously consider opting for a PS3.

Incidently, it's almost a given that Sony will reduce the PS3 by something in the order of 50 Euros before the end of the year, and perhaps even as soon as E3 next month.

pleasant Co.

Syferus wrote: »

Ironically, the PS3 is known to be one the quietest and well built media players on the market.

What do you mean when you say "media player"?

Syferus

Mactard wrote: »

What do you mean when you say "media player"?

Weather you're playing a game or a Blu-ray or a CD it's quiet.

In most cases it caches information on the hard drive rather than loading constantly from the disc, which tends to be far noisier.

pleasant Co.

Syferus wrote: »

Weather you're playing a game or a Blu-ray or a CD it's quiet.

In most cases it caches information on the hard drive rather than loading constantly from the disc, which tends to be far noisier.

Sorry, I meant what is classed as a media player? What else out there would fall under this category?

Sleipnir

Syferus wrote: »

Ironically, the PS3 is known to be one the quietest and well built media players on the market.

That's not ironic.




If we're talking "media players" (we're not, but let's say we are) then it may or may not be quieter than the xBox or a PC etc.

If we're talking about Blu-Ray players (and we are) the PS3 is a lot noiser then, I would say, all Blue-Ray players.

Syferus

Mactard wrote: »

Sorry, I meant what is classed as a media player? What else out there would fall under this category?

Anything that plays media.

The PS3 is a very quiet Blu-ray player and a very quiet games console. You're not exerting every last drop of energy of its GPU and power supply cooling systems when watching HD video so on an ultimate scale it's quieter when playing a film than when playing a game, but when it comes to play games it's also very quiet.

To say it's 'noisier' than a stand-alone Blu-ray player belies the fact that you think it's an issue that should hamper someone considering a PS3 - it's ultimately a very quiet machine where the minute sound of it doing its work is in no way going to distract you.

Soarer

Syferus wrote: »

Weather you're playing a game or a Blu-ray or a CD it's quiet.

In most cases it caches information on the hard drive rather than loading constantly from the disc, which tends to be far noisier.

I'm completely open to correction here, but I doubt very much that the PS3 caches the contents of a bd onto the hard drive for playback. You wouldn't want to have much stored on your 80gb hdd if you decide to watch a dual layer bd.

Syferus wrote: »

To say it's 'nosier' than a stand-alone Blu-ray player

That's why I love my standalone player. It's never once eavesdropped on one of my phonecalls, or looked out the window to see what the neighbours are doing!:P

dirtynosebeps

thanks for the replies, i suppose it's opened up a debate about if your getting a blu-ray why not get a PS3. i've had a PS1 and 2, no2 is lying up in the attic somewhere. we recently bought a WII and are happy with that. as i said i got the blu ray for just under €200 and watched the rock last night.T.B.H. i wasn't going to spend another €150 then have the console lying around in a couple of weeks time. i must say the sound was impressive it was nearly like having surround sound. ohh the other reason why i went for the panasonic was we have a 42" verra.
when i go to harvey's, powercity ,DID etc the first thing i look for/at is the make ,then what does it do (if that makes sense) ,then the price. as i said i was going to try and bargain down the sales rep from the price of €264 but when he checked the system it was down again . i have read other threads about the profit margin on electrics and it surprises me now thinking about it. the blu-ray was €379.99 reduced to €199.95 saving me just over €180 and i'm sure they made a profit if they reduced the price of that model to just under €200 store wide
just a quick question. what is bd? i've seen alot of posts here. i'm not into any of that stuff and wouldn't have the foggiest if the rep had said stuff like that to me.

Syferus

Soarer wrote: »

I'm completely open to correction here, but I doubt very much that the PS3 caches the contents of a bd onto the hard drive for playback. You wouldn't want to have much stored on your 80gb hdd if you decide to watch a dual layer bd.

I wasn't clear enough - it caches game information onto the HDD as Blu-ray drives in general use are still around 2x-4x. That's no issue for running any type of video, but a large portion the sort of complex assets in a game are cached on the HDD as they need to be acessed dynamically and more rapidly.

Obviously, services like Blu-ray live are more suited to Blu-ray players like the PS3 because it's more geared towards browsing and mass storage than a basic player. Also, the fact the PS3 has so much inherant tech inside it means it's capable of upgrading to future firmware updates that older players will not be - most of its release contemporaries are obsolete in that regard now. Oh, and I'm in no way saying Blu-ray live is much good, but there you go.

pleasant Co.

Syferus wrote: »

Anything that plays media.

I wasn't sure if you were talking about standalone blu ray players, or just game consoles etc, but since you were talking about blu ray players too I have to agree with the guy who already said it was noisier.

Not a big deal to everyone, but don't underestimate how absolutely headbangingily annoying it can be to those that it does bug.

Syferus

Mactard wrote: »

I wasn't sure if you were talking about standalone blu ray players, or just game consoles etc, but since you were talking about blu ray players too I have to agree with the guy who already said it was noisier.

Not a big deal to everyone, but don't underestimate how absolutely headbangingily annoying it can be to those that it does bug.

And that again amsumes it's an issue - the PS3 is very quiet, to the point at which it's the quietest thing under my television that - quieter than everything from the Sky + box to the 'standard' dvd player I have. The problem I have is that it's slightly disengious to try and point out the PS3 is in any way abtrusive when it comes to sound, because just about every person I've heard that owns one has commented on how quietily it runs. The simple fact is someone going to have a very hard time covincing themselves or anyone else that there is audible sound issues with the PS3.

There's plenty not to like about the PS3 - but just about all of that is on the games side, not in the Blu-ray functionality.