Engineering and ordinary maths?

thomasjad

Is there anyway to get into engineering with ordinary maths? the requirements say that ull need a HLd3 so if one got an OL A1 could thy do it?

Jonathan

You could always try it, but the reason for HL maths is that they want you to know how to integrate.

Darren1o1

thomasjad wrote: »

Is there anyway to get into engineering with ordinary maths? the requirements say that ull need a HLd3 so if one got an OL A1 could thy do it?

You could do the access course..

Shiny

If you have HL Physics?

That would help ALOT

thomasjad

access course? could you give a link please? I looked around and couldnt see anything like that :rolleyes:

cocoa

also known as open opportunities. You do an interview and they try to guess if you'll be able for the maths.

http://www.dcu.ie/prospective/deginfo.php?classname=FE&degree_description=Open+Opportunities+in+Engineering+Course

Darren1o1

cocoa wrote: »

also known as open opportunities. You do an interview and they try to guess if you'll be able for the maths.

http://www.dcu.ie/prospective/deginfo.php?classname=FE&degree_description=Open+Opportunities+in+Engineering+Course

Speaking to the lecturers when it first started (I was graduating), I think the main thing they looked for was enthusiasm. You really need to be into it to succeed. I have seen allot of smart people fail because of a lack of interest. For Mech at least i would say applied maths followed by physics would be the most relevant. Best of luck, greatest years i spent...

riemann

thomasjad wrote: »

Is there anyway to get into engineering with ordinary maths? the requirements say that ull need a HLd3 so if one got an OL A1 could thy do it?

No offence dude but if you lack the intelligence and/or interest to do Higher Maths for LC then it may be best to think of a different career.

You'll only regret it as it is the basis of your course.

cocoa

riemann wrote: »

No offence dude but if you lack the intelligence and/or interest to do Higher Maths for LC then it may be best to think of a different career.

You'll only regret it as it is the basis of your course.

He's probably heard that a million times already... IMO, you're still very young when you sit the leaving, and even younger when you choose your subjects for it, so it's easy to miss what you'd really enjoy. Anyway, that's not the subject here, it's whether or not he can potentially do engineering with pass maths.

And the answer is a big yes, the open opportunities course is there for that very purpose and I personally know a few who came in with pass maths and are now doing fine in second year.

Darren1o1

riemann wrote: »

No offence dude but if you lack the intelligence and/or interest to do Higher Maths for LC then it may be best to think of a different career.

You'll only regret it as it is the basis of your course.

:rolleyes: If you lack the maturity to give good advice please don't. I have many friends who did engineering with either D's at HL or even doing ordinary level maths. I wrote my thesis in comparison of finite element and mathematics models for hyperelastic materials. Very maths intensive, more so than most. This after a D at higher level. If you have the interest and are willing to work you will be okay. The key is work, I have seen many fail over the years, despite being brilliant because of lack of work.
OP if you want to do it, do it. Be wary it is a long and tough road but worth it in the end.

riemann

Darren1o1 wrote: »

This after a D at higher level.

Case and point.

EDIT: Your based in New Hampshire, so I assume you have sat the Leaving Cert and actually know what you are talking about? Otherwise its just pure speculation and you should delete your post.

Darren1o1

riemann wrote: »

Case and point.

EDIT: Your based in New Hampshire, so I assume you have sat the Leaving Cert and actually know what you are talking about? Otherwise its just pure speculation and you should delete your post.

I have my leaving cert and a bachelors degree in medical mechanical engineering from DCU (2007), currently working on a master in computer aided mechanical and manufacturing engineering (by distance from NH). I am a design engineer in the US as a cause of my bachelors. I speak from experience on the course. I did my final year project with who was the main maths lecturer at the time. As stated before, if you are not going to be helpful, please do no post.

Trained Monkey

Are their any helpful aptitude tests that could help decide if engineering is the right direction to take?

riemann

Darren1o1 wrote: »

I have my leaving cert and a bachelors degree in medical mechanical engineering from DCU (2007), currently working on a master in computer aided mechanical and manufacturing engineering (by distance from NH). I am a design engineer in the US as a cause of my bachelors. I speak from experience on the course. I did my final year project with who was the main maths lecturer at the time. As stated before, if you are not going to be helpful, please do no post.

Just because Im not going to agree with you doesnt mean I'm not being helpful. Pointless optimism is not going to help this chap.

riemann

Trained Monkey wrote: »

Are their any helpful aptitude tests that could help decide if engineering is the right direction to take?

Yeah there is, ask your career guidance teacher.

waraf

You could do the preliminry engineering course in DIT Bolton Street. If you pass it you go straight into the first year of the degree course. It's a good course too. Gives you a good step up in Maths, physics, chemistry etc and you'll be a little bit ahead of the others initially when you get to the degree course.

http://www.dit.ie/media/documents/study/undergraduate/undergraduatecourses/dt020.pdf

alex020291

thomasjad wrote: »

Is there anyway to get into engineering with ordinary maths? the requirements say that ull need a HLd3 so if one got an OL A1 could thy do it?

You can go if you do the acces course. Its a week summercamp in sptember.

i think the application for for the acces course had to be submited in march. Not sure. You could just try go there and talk to them. They are usualy there between 2 and 4 PM.

riemann

From what I remember there is no Integration and very basic differenciation on the OL paper. This is one of the fundamentals you will be using in college so would be worth your while seeing if you can get to grips with it easily enough.

random.stranger

Trained Monkey wrote: »

Are their any helpful aptitude tests that could help decide if engineering is the right direction to take?

Yes. I looked it up in the World Book encyclopaedia & it told me the qualities of a person suited to engineering. I suggest you pop into your local library and check it out. If you enjoy solving problems & are a hard worker- its a good start.

LukeR765

im planning on doing preliminary engineering in dit next year has anyone done it in dit and could give me more info? hours,workload etc

any info would be a great help!

cocoa

LukeR765 wrote: »

im planning on doing preliminary engineering in dit next year has anyone done it in dit and could give me more info? hours,workload etc

any info would be a great help!

try the DIT forum...

>_>

waraf

LukeR765 wrote: »

im planning on doing preliminary engineering in dit next year has anyone done it in dit and could give me more info? hours,workload etc

any info would be a great help!

I did it many years ago. Expect long hours when studyig engineering in Bolton Street. You'll have anywhere from 30 to 39 hours a week between lectures and labs. Lots of work but a lot of it's interesting stuff. Oh yeah one other thing, Bolton Street is almost 90% blokes so college nights out are a real sausage fest...

random.stranger

LukeR765 wrote: »

im planning on doing preliminary engineering in dit next year has anyone done it in dit and could give me more info? hours,workload etc

any info would be a great help!

You can expect to be doing long hours wherever you decide to study engineering. You will probably find for the first 2 years you will be doing a lot of the fundamental stuff to give you a good grounding, stick with it- it doesn't get any easier from third year on, but for me it got much more interesting.