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The Catholic Karma Sutra.

  • 16-05-2009 10:26am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭


    Every act - a type of caress, a sexual position - with the goal of arousal is permitted and pleases God.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8049853.stm

    Unfortunately, the good priest has decided to press forward the point of view that organised religions such as his may decide what actually defines a proper relationship. Somebody should explain to him that a nice day out in church followed by a wedding reception does not define a proper relationship.

    He also dismisses those that have questioned the competency of a celibate monk to write about sex, saying his experience comes from counselling married couples and from running a website giving sexual advice for almost a year.

    Almost a year? Truly a man of great experience.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Must send the good Father a copy of my own latest publication, "How to be a Franciscan Friar".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    robindch wrote: »
    Must send the good Father a copy of my own latest publication, "How to be a Franciscan Friar".

    LOL -is there a chapter about sex.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭bluecell99


    Cant understand this.Whats he getting out of this?Money?

    How come he has not been instantly ex communicated?He is in direct and open defiance of the roman churches position which states that married people must only have sex to procreate.Is'nt this correct?(Now dont go mentioning the padres who are rather fond of sex themselves,particularly gay sex - also in flagrant disobedience to the vatican and its acolytes around the world.)

    Or is ex communication confined to nine year old rape victims in Brazil?

    Hmmmmmmmmm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,686 ✭✭✭✭PDN


    bluecell99 wrote: »
    Cant understand this.Whats he getting out of this?Money?

    How come he has not been instantly ex communicated?He is in direct and open defiance of the roman churches position which states that married people must only have sex to procreate.Is'nt this correct?(Now dont go mentioning the padres who are rather fond of sex themselves,particularly gay sex - also in flagrant disobedience to the vatican and its acolytes around the world.)

    Or is ex communication confined to nine year old rape victims in Brazil?

    Hmmmmmmmmm.

    Discussion of this monk's activities are in order, from both sides of the religious fence. But try to do it in a civilised manner rather than trolling, otherwise the thread will be locked.

    Bluecell99, you are out of order and are yellow carded for your bad manners.

    Btw, the 9 year old rape victim in Brazil was not excommunicated - her mother and the abortionists were. Still nuts, but there you go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,686 ✭✭✭✭PDN


    BTW, it is a common misconception (pun intended) that Roman Catholicism teaches that sex is only for procreation.

    The real teaching is that there is an unbreakable connection between the two meanings of the conjugal act: the unitive meaning and the procreative meaning.

    They teach that "each and every marriage act (quilibet matrimonii usus) must remain open to the transmission of life", but procreation need not be the intention behind every coupling and, in fact, it is "licit to take into account the natural rhythms immanent in the generative function, for the use of marriage in the infecund periods only, and in this way regulate birth without offending the moral principles which have been recalled earlier".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    PDN wrote: »
    ... it is "licit to take into account the natural rhythms immanent in the generative function, for the use of marriage in the infecund periods only, and in this way regulate birth without offending the moral principles which have been recalled earlier".

    I had to read that three or four times before I realised it said licit and not illicit... This is the rhythm method yes?
    Is the withdrawl method, coitus interruptus, permitted or is that (currently/still) classed as the Sin of Onan? (correctly or incorrectly so)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Here's a few pages from it.
    Preparations to the conjugal act are of vital importance to make it a cheerful experience.

    http://www.szansaspotkania.net/index.php?page=8745

    The language is priceless. Though I do like the way he describes PMS in a way that only a celibate could get away with. It's quite patronising, actually very patronising.

    Apparently it's flying off the shelves in Poland, must be for the laugh factor. Because it doesn't seem to actually suggest trying anything, it just seems to be a list of can and cannot do's.

    Oral sex get's the go ahead provided it does not culminate in the male orgasm, female orgasm is permitted though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Well, at least here's a RC priest saying that sex can and should be fun. That in itself is something not often heard, and I suspect especially in Poland, where the church is generally quite conservative on most issues.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭Phototoxin


    Yes but of course then every non religous slates it in true hypocritical fashion without stopping to think;

    Maybe the priest was a bit wild in his youth? (not likely esp in Poland back then but hey...)

    The priest is a man with manly bits hopefully and a knowledge of the world and relationships. He's probably more qualified than 'scientists' who have museums with Jesus riding around on a dinosaur or a 'nutritionist' who tells us that we should have 'chemical free food' and then all the authorities on homeopathy and whatnot yet no one is so vehiment to slate them. Here is a priest doing something good - trying to get Catholics (often seen as sexually prudeish) to have mad passionate erotic sex and yet no, lets not see the good let's just take the p*ss.

    Sex is about fulfilling a physical spiritual and emotional bond in a marriage, marriage being a sacred thing and priests know all about sacred things so I personally don't think it's such a bad thing. Also I hope it gets translated into English if its not already and I will buy a copy also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    studiorat wrote: »

    Oral sex get's the go ahead provided it does not culminate in the male orgasm, female orgasm is permitted though.

    I will bet it was typed by a feminist nun


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Phototoxin wrote: »

    Sex is about fulfilling a physical spiritual and emotional bond in a marriage, marriage being a sacred thing and priests know all about sacred things so I personally don't think it's such a bad thing. Also I hope it gets translated into English if its not already and I will buy a copy also.

    Obviously not reading the posts here, so I think you're a bit quick off the mark with the hypocritical thing. The thing is already in English as the quotes and the links actually show. I really don't see any reason to think that Poland was particularly puritanical "back then" either.

    Now I'd agree with you if you didn't limit it to marriage alone, do you mean a christian marriage or will say any ritual do? Some rather "artistic" acquaintances of mine got married a while back the ceremony involved leaping into the sea in the nip. They saw it as a valid ceremony and since that was the way they deemed fit to make a vow to each other why should I question it. I suppose it is just as much a real marriage as if they did the whole church thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭Phototoxin


    Obviously not reading the posts here, so I think you're a bit quick off the mark with the hypocritical thing. The thing is already in English as the quotes and the links actually show. I really don't see any reason to think that Poland was particularly puritanical "back then" either.

    the vibe im getting by and large is 'lol monk telling us about sex luz little boys !!one!!eleven!'

    Not this forum either just in general.


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