Why do so many buses use Suffolk Street?

crocro

Is there no way to get the citybound buses on Nassau street to turn right onto Grafton street and straight on to Westmoreland street rather than having them pass through two extra sets of lights as they go along Suffolk street, and turn back onto college green?

It seems to be a major bottleneck. Is the road not wide enough for two way traffic? Could an extra lane be carved out by removing some of that traffic island with the titty malone statue?

Bluetonic

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DES440

Bad Planning.A significant amount of the buses that do come down suffolk street duplicate large portions of their routes.Some run parallel with the DART for long distances.

The whole traffic management in the city has been a disaster for 15+ years and is only getting worse.

paulm17781

I've thought similar about Nassau st. generally. It bothers me that buses have to go all they way around Trinity instead of running via Grafton st. Now, I realise what I've just said totally contradicts what you've asked but I suspect there are a lot of places around the city where a contraflow bus lane or something could make a massive difference.

Victor

While you would lose the bus stops on Grafton Street (outbound) and Suffolk Street (inbound) and the taxi rank on Grafton Street, it might allow College Green to be re-jigged to allow more pedestrian time - and quicken bus journeys.

Molly Malone isn't an issue.

murphaph

The whole network needs remodelling but nobody will cooperate with anybody else.

angel01

Well how would you get from Dawson Street to O'Connell Street then if you didn't use that street?

antoinolachtnai

I think the OP is proposing making the lower part of Grafton St two-way for buses.

It's not an absolutely mad idea. The wall of the provost's house could be pulled back a metre or two to faciliate that.

You would need some serious rethinking of space on College Green to make up for the facilities removed on Grafton St.

You would need to do this as part of an overall plan to improve public transport, rather than as an isolated initiative.

Carawaystick

There's large obstacles impeeding the North/South flow of traffic in Dublin, the castle, the "shopping Streets" of Clarendon, St. William/Drury, Trinity etc.
so there's only a few routes through.

MOH

But what happens when they reach the bottom of Grafton St? How do they get across 6 lanes of traffic into Westmoreland st?

If it was possible, crazy idea: reverse the traffic flow on Grafton St lower, St Andrew St, and Suffolk St. Buses + taxis come down Dawson St and down Grafton St; cars outbound go up Suffolk St and left onto St Andrew St in to Nassau St.

gjim

MOH wrote: »

But what happens when they reach the bottom of Grafton St? How do they get across 6 lanes of traffic into Westmoreland st?

Similarly to the way they do now I'd imagine except the light controlled intersection with the Pearse St./Dame St. flow would occur in front of Trinity instead of 100m away at Foster Place.

loyatemu

currently the only car traffic that can go past the bottom of grafton st (either towards Nassau St. or Dame St.) has to come from D'Olier St., which in turn has to come off Burgh Quay or O'Connell Bridge. These are all areas that the council wants to restrict access to and direct cars away from - once the new bridge is open there may be scope for making the top of Grafton St bus only and 2-way.

BendiBus

MOH wrote: »

How do they get across 6 lanes of traffic into Westmoreland st?

Cut it to 4 lanes for starters?

The Macken St Bridge will open up opportunities to take traffic away from the College Green area.