Wireless heating controls

davidm20

I'm about to upgrade my central heating oil boiler and I also want to upgrade the heating controls to qualify for the SEI grant.

My main query is regarding the heating controls, i want to go wireless as I'm not on for drilling, running cables etc.

To comply with grant rules(as I see them, could be wrong) I want a a wireless termostat on the cylinder to control the hot water and two wireless room thermostats, 1 upstairs and 1 in the main living room. I want one 3 channel time clock to control them.

Q1 Does anyone have any experience of a similar wireless system?
If so what brand of controls did you use? How did you find them?

Q2. Does anyone know SEIs position regarding using wireless controls?

Thanks
David

Carlow52

davidm20 wrote: »

I'm about to upgrade my central heating oil boiler and I also want to upgrade the heating controls to qualify for the SEI grant.

My main query is regarding the heating controls, i want to go wireless as I'm not on for drilling, running cables etc.

To comply with grant rules(as I see them, could be wrong) I want a a wireless termostat on the cylinder to control the hot water and two wireless room thermostats, 1 upstairs and 1 in the main living room. I want one 3 channel time clock to control them.

Q1 Does anyone have any experience of a similar wireless system?
If so what brand of controls did you use? How did you find them?

Q2. Does anyone know SEIs position regarding using wireless controls?

Thanks
David

proly a stupid ? but have u the pipework for the 3 circuits already

davidm20

Hi,

Yeah as far as i understand we have the pipe work in place. Currently we can the divide the house into 2 areas for heating rads. We have 2 switches downstairs, for that. Then there the water tank wich is always heated when the boiler is on. Thats 3 circuits, I thing.

Dave

Carlow52

Thanks

I use Danfoss gear for this sort of stuff: not the cheapest but..
see http://randall.danfoss.com/xxTypex/299594_MNU17434300_SIT313.html as an example

SilverBER

I prefer the hard wired system myself, but maybe its because I am old fashioned.

d'Oracle

SilverBER wrote: »

I prefer the hard wired system myself, but maybe its because I am old fashioned.

I would be the same, but if it works.......

davidm20

Yeah i'd probably prefer to be going down the tried and tested wired route too, but I can't, and I hate visible wiring. We renovated a few years back did the piping but not the heating controls. I truthfully didn't even know about zones and controls, luckily the plumber advised us to setup the 2 zones or this would not be a runner at all.

To answere 1 of my own questions
Q2. Does anyone know SEIs position regarding using wireless controls?

As you would assume They don't, I contacted them and here is what they said

"The product has to be approved by the National Standard Authority of Ireland (NSAI) or equivalent. Please refer to the Appendix 1 under "I am a Contractor" on our website www.sei.ie/hes and the www.nsai.ie."

Anyone else any experience of a full wireless system running?

d'Oracle

davidm20 wrote: »

Yeah i'd probably prefer to be going down the tried and tested wired route too, but I can't, and I hate visible wiring. We renovated a few years back did the piping but not the heating controls. I truthfully didn't even know about zones and controls, luckily the plumber advised us to setup the 2 zones or this would not be a runner at all.

To answere 1 of my own questions
Q2. Does anyone know SEIs position regarding using wireless controls?

As you would assume They don't, I contacted them and here is what they said

"The product has to be approved by the National Standard Authority of Ireland (NSAI) or equivalent. Please refer to the Appendix 1 under "I am a Contractor" on our website www.sei.ie/hes and the www.nsai.ie."

Anyone else any experience of a full wireless system running?

I believe you will have to find an SEI accredited installer who can do the wireless in order to get the grant.

Sweet that you have the zones though. Good plumber that

SilverBER

I never have but I was speaking to an individual from SEI and as far as I remember, they do allow for wireless controls. Once they are approved by NSAI. I would assume that Agrement would have an input too and that the ISO 9001 standard would be in there too. Once again, however, the contractor you use would have to be on the SEI HES list and he / she would be aware of this.

MicktheMan

One advantage of wireless stats & controls is that the room stat can easily be moved to different positions to test which position is best for sensing temperature for the zone. This is one of the most common problems that I find when I'm auditing existing houses. In a lot of cases the wired stat is simply turned to the max and the boiler is controlled by the timer only because the position is wrong, thus rendering the stat useless.

recedite

It does not matter wireless or not, one programmer or several timeswitches, just as long as it works.You will also need 3 TRV's, an immersion timeswitch and paperwork to say it was all done by contractors from the SEI approved list.

SilverBER

I am specing 3 upgrades at the moment and it would be convenient to use a wireless system in 2 of them. I might give them a go unless someone has a horror story.

CaseyH22

SilverBER wrote: »

I prefer the hard wired system myself, but maybe its because I am old fashioned.

Exactly how I feel, haha.

eoghan.geraghty

Most of the leading heating control manufacturers will have a wireless option for room thermostats.
I've used them a few times and found them good up to a point, ie their range falls greatly with block walls.
I have not seen a wireless cylinder thermostat, but no chasing should be involved getting a cable to your hotpress from your boiler.
If the wireless controls are made by a leading manufacturer you shouldn't have a problem with SEI, but get your SEI registered installer to check first.

Micky Dolenz

Wireless works and of course is allowed. Most important is that it interlocks with the boiler. This will be tested on inspection by SEI.

Wireless kit inc two channel time clock, two motorised valves, room stat, cylinder stat, and recievers is about €350.

You will need a three channel time clock and another motorised valve.
Also don't forget a timer has to be fitted to immersion.

etcetc

@Micky Dolenz

have you got a link to manufacturer for the wireless kit?

Micky Dolenz

All the main players make them,

Danfoss:http://heating.danfoss.com/Content/934FB51F-210E-474B-8C2F-7A5994704903_MNU17438800_SIT54.html

Less posh versions of this one are availible, (cheaper timeclock etc)

Myson:http://www.myson.co.uk/services/1207_enu_html.htm
etc