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Superlative abuse- unique, genius, legendary etc etc.

  • 09-05-2009 10:46pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭


    Anyone else sick of superlative abuse- words like "genius", "legendary" etc to describe good or great things (even mediocrity).

    There's an ad on tv describing Harrington, Clarke and Montgomery as living legends.

    Would you ever fcuk off.
    Tiger Woods is a living legend-
    Those three golfers are "among the greatest european golfers of the past 10-15 years" but living legends?

    Just an example but this obviously applies generally- art, music etc.. everything.

    It degrades the meaning of the terms and makes it harder to remember stuff that is truly unparalleled, sublime, genius etc.
    What do you think?

    And what things, people etc would you describe as genius etc.

    Oh yeah, I'll get the first reply out of the way:
    "best thread ever!"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    tech77 wrote: »
    Anyone else sick of superlative abuse- words like "genius", "legendary" etc to describe good or great things (even mediocrity).

    There's an ad on tv describing Harrington, Clarke and Montgomery as living legends.

    Would you ever fcuk off.
    Tiger Woods is a living legend-
    Those three golfers are "among the greatest european golfers of the past 10-15 years" but living legends?

    Just an example but this obviously applies generally- art, music etc.. everything.

    It degrades the meaning of the terms and makes it harder to remember stuff that is truly unparalleled, sublime, genius etc.
    What do you think?

    And what things, people etc would you describe as genius etc.

    Oh yeah, I'll get the first reply out of the way:
    "best thread ever!"
    Epic Fail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭Captain-America


    Worst thread ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Shacklebolt


    el_weirdo wrote: »
    Epic Fail

    I thought he was an all-round hero for posting it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭cashback


    Yes it's annoying, very.

    We'll just have to invent a new word for stuff that's actually legendary.
    Supermegatronic or something.

    Epic Fail is also an annoying one. Maybe just cos I'm getting old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Schism


    cashback wrote: »
    Epic Fail is also an annoying one. Maybe just cos I'm getting old.

    No I agree, I think epic fail has run it's course.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    tech77 wrote: »
    Anyone else sick of superlative abuse- words like "genius", "legendary" etc to describe good or great things (even mediocrity).

    There's an ad on tv describing Harrington, Clarke and Montgomery as living legends.

    Would you ever fcuk off.
    Tiger Woods is a living legend-
    Those three golfers are "among the greatest european golfers of the past 10-15 years" but living legends?

    Just an example but this obviously applies generally- art, music etc.. everything.

    It degrades the meaning of the terms and makes it harder to remember stuff that is truly unparalleled, sublime, genius etc.
    What do you think?

    And what things, people etc would you describe as genius etc.

    Oh yeah, I'll get the first reply out of the way:
    "best thread ever!"

    You are posting this in AH. If you are serious, ask for a transfer.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    el_weirdo wrote: »
    Epic Fail

    That's rich coming from someone with binary in their sig. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    OP: What else do you f**king expect from advertisers/marketers????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    That's rich coming from someone with binary in their sig. :D
    I thought it was funny...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Binary code = EPIC FAIL


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    are they even superlatives? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Thank you OP, this pisses me off so much.

    Dermot Looney (Labour candidate) about a year ago, had a letter in the IT describing all teachers as "heroes".
    Everyone is a bloody hero nowadays, and it means that there is no word adequate to describe a man who runs into a burning building to rescue two people and a cat.

    Overuse of words such as hero and atrocity and racist and homophobe render them meaningless.
    Bigot is another one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Everyone is a bloody hero nowadays, and it means that there is no word adequate to describe a man who runs into a burning building to rescue two people and a cat.

    Yes there is, it's "fireman."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    K4t wrote: »
    OP: What else do you f**king expect from advertisers/marketers????

    Yeah fair enough- I mean generally though, not specifically in the area of marketing (the ad just reminded me of this general trend).

    Basically overuse of powerful terms so that
    1) the terms themselves are stripped of meaning
    and
    2) when the concept IS actually justified, the concept becomes difficult to express because the term that should express this concept has been devalued.

    These are good general examples:
    Dermot Looney (Labour candidate) about a year ago, had a letter in the IT describing all teachers as "heroes".
    Everyone is a bloody hero nowadays, and it means that there is no word adequate to describe a man who runs into a burning building to rescue two people and a cat.

    Overuse of words such as hero and atrocity and racist and homophobe render them meaningless.
    Bigot is another one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    Yes there is, it's "fireman."

    Fireperson. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 228 ✭✭5318008!


    Isn't that generally what happens?

    A word gets used so much it's meaning changes substantially. New words will come along. I'm sure what you're describing is almost as old as language itself.

    (I'm sure there was a time when the word "awesome" literally meant you were filled with awe :D).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,978 ✭✭✭445279.ie


    yeah, langer was an insult in olden days, now it's just a term of endearment :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    I thought the thread would be for discussing superlative abuse, as in, really really good insults. :(

    That's a topic more suited to AH methinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    ya big legend.

    eh no, that's overkill stfu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭DundalkDuffman


    My brain for some reason processed the thread title as superlaxative abuse. Which is strange. Still opened it though!
    The one that gets me is devastation, it gets bandied about all the time for things that in the scheme of things isn't devastation at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    no seriously though nobody answered me, are they superlatives? I thought superlatives were just stuff like, the best, the worst etc how is legend a superlative???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,833 ✭✭✭✭Armin_Tamzarian


    no seriously though nobody answered me, are they superlatives? I thought superlatives were just stuff like, the best, the worst etc how is legend a superlative???

    This post is the BEST Jerry, the Best...

    P.S. I thanked your previous post for it's accuracy...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    ^ oh I see!

    In that case, this thread really sucks, so bad. I think I'm going to have to say, FAIL!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭FruitLover


    how is legend a superlative???

    It's not really, it's just a regular lative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    5318008! wrote: »
    Isn't that generally what happens?

    A word gets used so much it's meaning changes substantially. New words will come along. I'm sure what you're describing is almost as old as language itself.

    (I'm sure there was a time when the word "awesome" literally meant you were filled with awe :D).

    I think that's a perfect example of why this trend sucks. I would like if I were watching a stormfront move in over the sea while the sun sets and I could say "awesome" without sounding like an American tool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    We live in the age of mediocrity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    ^ oh I see!

    In that case, this thread really sucks, so bad. I think I'm going to have to say, FAIL!

    See the fourth entry here for the informal use of the term (as used here).

    Edit: WTF is with the crazy determination to fail me though?
    Jaysus :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    nah you still fail. sorry you had to find out like this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    ^ oh I see!

    In that case, this thread really sucks, so bad. I think I'm going to have to say, FAIL!
    nah you still fail. sorry you had to find out like this.

    No problem.
    Ah well, at least the inconsistency of your reasoning (as highlighted in bold) has reassured me.
    Cheers.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    I liked the compliant that a fairly decent salary is considered "mega bucks"
    in the past two adults and family could live on a single salary

    instant classic when used about films is so overused

    marketing droids should banned be used superlatives, subjectively humans can't tell differences unless there is a descrepancy of at least an eighth so ads should say "it's better than before, not that you'd notice though!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    I'll exaggerate as much as I bloody want, because I'm brilliant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭D-Generate


    Worst, most overused word is "random". The context in which it is used is almost never correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    "Icon" when used to describe Lady GaGa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Yes there is, it's "fireman."
    And if he isn't paid to do the job?

    I do however, acknowledge the burn.


    I'll leave now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    cashback wrote: »
    Yes it's annoying, very.

    We'll just have to invent a new word for stuff that's actually legendary.
    Supermegatronic or something.

    Epic Fail is also an annoying one. Maybe just cos I'm getting old.

    I'm using "supermegatronic" from now on.

    Brilliant...
    Ahem, i mean "very good". :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    I think any discriptive for a golfer that goes beyond "he's just some guy walking around a park hitting balls with a stick" is probably hyperbole.

    Mark Twain observed correctly "golf is a good walk spoiled". What a living legend that guy was!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 757 ✭✭✭milod


    F**kin' awsome thread OP...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭SoWatchaWant


    Everyone is a bloody hero nowadays, and it means that there is no word adequate to describe a man who runs into a burning building to rescue two people and a cat.
    Yes there is, it's "fireman."
    tech77 wrote: »
    Fireperson. :D

    See above


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    This thread fills a much needed gap in the market.


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