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Work for good looking 26 y/o girl

  • 08-05-2009 1:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭


    Hey,

    I have a foreign girlfriend who is extremely attractive. She's looking to move here and had intended working in something alligned to her studies as she is fluent in English, but as the jobs market is so dire at the moment I'm trying to consider alternatives for her.

    While I understand there will be some smart remarks, which I am perfectly ok with, please can anyone help with what type of work a girl could get using her looks as an asset.

    Thanks...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Cashier in a supermarket: lots of fine girls go on checkouts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    lap dancing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭Homer


    Promotional work in bars clubs etc??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    Have you considered the black market? I hear prostitutes are in high demand at the moment and pimps prefer to take on good looking girls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 147 ✭✭Communicationb


    Seeing that you are selling her preceived good looks as her main asset, is it safe to assume that she has no brains or qualifications to speak of?

    Try an escort agency.

    ps. Post a photo and we will judge her "good looks";)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭big_show


    Pics please or GTFO :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭colsku


    Seeing that you are selling her preceived good looks as her main asset, is it safe to assume that she has no brains or qualifications to speak of?

    Try an escort agency.

    ps. Post a photo and we will judge her "good looks";)

    No, she's smart... Speaks 3 languages and has a Bachelors Degree, but that doesn't count for much at the mo. I'm just going down the good looking route as an alternative.

    She's a bit too nice so prostitution, lap dancing and escort agency stuff isn't really an option. Although I could probably convince her to do a hand-job special for Boardsies!

    Promotions sounds good actually. Any contacts?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Are you a pimp.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 iseeyou


    Yeah promo's is a good route to go down, try companies such a lites group, Verve, Publicis D, Giraffe marketing. Tell you what, go to jobs.ie and look under "promotional merchandising" some are requesting girls from Eastern Europe at the moment. Although I have to warn you, I do it and before xmas it was booming, but since then its been extremely quiet, worth a try applying though since the summer is back and thats the busiest time of year, best of luck with it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭colsku


    big_show wrote: »
    Pics please or GTFO :pac:

    Leitrim... Urgh!

    I would imagine there is a severe dearth of good looking birds in that corner of the world.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭NullZer0


    Marketing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭muppetkiller


    Get a job in Tech/call center support for IT companies like SAP etc... lots of jobs when you have the languages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭big_show


    colsku wrote: »
    Leitrim... Urgh!

    I would imagine there is a severe dearth of good looking birds in that corner of the world.

    that's what we want you to think, ain't none of those city folk coming to take ours wimmins!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    I think its a joke any woman would base her career on her good looks. So much for the 'second sex', eh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    colsku wrote: »
    No, she's smart... Speaks 3 languages and has a Bachelors Degree, but that doesn't count for much at the mo. I'm just going down the good looking route as an alternative.
    A degree in what, and what languages? Also, can she speak good, fluent, or "mother tongue" in the three?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    Denerick wrote: »
    I think its a joke any woman would base her career on her good looks.

    It's working out for Harney ok.



    OP,

    Do up a CV and get on the street like the wafts of others. Having good looks and qualifications up the ying yang are well and good but she could be a useless human being when it comes to working (I've seen the type before).

    I also dont believe that she will be able to choose the work she wants to do here, that will be dictated to her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    She could try working in a pretentious bar as a waitress or bar tender. They always like to hire pretty girls.

    I remember I used to go to the kitchen... my god the staff there were hot!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    She could try working in a pretentious bar as a waitress or bar tender. They always like to hire pretty girls.

    I remember I used to go to the kitchen... my god the staff there were hot!


    Yeah, somewhere like Ely. Seriously hot staff but their attitude sucked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Seeing that you are selling her preceived good looks as her main asset, is it safe to assume that she has no brains or qualifications to speak of?
    :confused: What the OP originally said:
    colsku wrote: »
    intended working in something alligned to her studies as she is fluent in English, but as the jobs market is so dire at the moment
    ps. Post a photo and we will judge her "good looks";)
    "Perceived good looks", "good looks" in quote-marks implying "maybe she's not good-looking at all!"... LOL at the jealousy.
    Get a job in Tech/call center support for IT companies like SAP etc... lots of jobs when you have the languages.
    Absolutely great idea - there are so many customer service/call centre jobs on irishjobs.ie for people with foreign languages.
    Denerick wrote: »
    I think its a joke any woman would base her career on her good looks. So much for the 'second sex', eh?
    Oh that's ironic. :rolleyes: Seeing as women's looks are judged every second of the waking day (I'm sure you've done it yourself plenty of times) it makes perfect sense actually. And pray tell what's wrong with using such an asset during these crap economic times?

    Posh clothes shops that pretty much make no secret of the fact they'll only hire good-looking people came to my mind, OP - e.g. the various places within BT (if you're in Dublin) and somewhere like Reiss on Stephen's Green. But retail's slowing down now, so I'd second muppetkiller's call centre suggestion - very good idea.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    How is it ironic? I have a penis so I tend to look at girls for other than professional reasons - is that a crime??

    All I'm saying is that to base someone's career on their looks is shallow, vain, and everthing that is wrong with western society. Its probably a good indication that they are as dumb as two planks and barely human as well.

    OP, if your marketing your gf on her looks then send her off to the local pimp. Seriously. If thats how seriously you take your gf then thats what you should do.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Denerick wrote: »
    How is it ironic? I have a penis so I tend to look at girls for other than professional reasons - is that a crime??
    You judge women's appearance like everyone else does... but suddenly when they make money out of their appearance, which is merely an extension of this scrutiny we're constantly under, it's "shallow" etc...
    All I'm saying is that to base someone's career on their looks is shallow, vain, and everthing that is wrong with western society. Its probably a good indication that they are as dumb as two planks and barely human as well.
    The irony of you saying the above, and then being so phenomenally judgemental. If there are industries that are built on good-looking people, then that's the problem, not the people who choose to work for them. But then again, those industries exist because people want them - including you.
    OP, if your marketing your gf on her looks then send her off to the local pimp. Seriously. If thats how seriously you take your gf then thats what you should do.
    He said it's because she wants a job and there is nothing at all out there so plan B: she use her looks to get a job - he's being very logical actually. Why are you pretending he says he wants to make money out of his girlfriend? And who's to say she doesn't have a say in it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    OK, take a step back here a moment. Someones career should depend on their mental/physical attributes, such as their ability to think rationally, think quickly, 'gift of the gab' or for manual labour physical strength may be important. But the superficial - ie, if a woman has nice 'assets' - is an absolute nonsense.

    Don't go all Erin Brockivich on me here. I'm simply stating my disgust at the idea that a woman 'gets ahead' in the world via her good lucks. Its demeaning to women and to womens ambition. The business world is full of fat ugly men. They didn't get there because they were pretty. Why should it be any different for women? Is that really the best women can do???

    Please state which industries based on good looking people I make use of? Because I have a healthy distate for the advertising industry and although the carnal male in me likes pornography, I think that says a lot about 'good looking women making it in the world' in the first place.

    I'll put it like this, if I were an attractive woman and I was hired on that grounds alone, I'd be ashamed of myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Photojoe


    I'm assuming she is not in the top few tiers of good looking girls or she would be doing modelling work. Division 1 and 2 looking girls work in decent shops, bars, waitressing etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Photojoe


    Denerick wrote: »
    OK, take a step back here a moment. Someones career should depend on their mental/physical attributes, such as their ability to think rationally, think quickly, 'gift of the gab' or for manual labour physical strength may be important. But the superficial - ie, if a woman has nice 'assets' - is an absolute nonsense.

    Don't go all Erin Brockivich on me here. I'm simply stating my disgust at the idea that a woman 'gets ahead' in the world via her good lucks. Its demeaning to women and to womens ambition. The business world is full of fat ugly men. They didn't get there because they were pretty. Why should it be any different for women? Is that really the best women can do???

    Please state which industries based on good looking people I make use of? Because I have a healthy distate for the advertising industry and although the carnal male in me likes pornography, I think that says a lot about 'good looking women making it in the world' in the first place.

    I'll put it like this, if I were an attractive woman and I was hired on that grounds alone, I'd be ashamed of myself.

    Better looking people work in better jobs. This is true for both sexes and many studies have confirmed it. Welcome to planet Earth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Victor McDade


    Photojoe wrote: »
    Better looking people work in better jobs. This is true for both sexes and many studies have confirmed it. Welcome to planet Earth.

    Mary Harney must have got an overnight beating with the ugly-stick so :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Tiesto


    colsku wrote: »
    No, she's smart... Speaks 3 languages and has a Bachelors Degree, but that doesn't count for much at the mo. I'm just going down the good looking route as an alternative.

    She's a bit too nice so prostitution, lap dancing and escort agency stuff isn't really an option. Although I could probably convince her to do a hand-job special for Boardsies!

    Promotions sounds good actually. Any contacts?

    haha you better hope she doesnt read that! :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    Photojoe wrote: »
    Better looking people work in better jobs. This is true for both sexes and many studies have confirmed it. Welcome to planet Earth.

    There are hundreds and thousands of examples in Ireland alone where ugly people have great jobs due to their qualifications. And very few people have good jobs because of their good looks - their good looks breeds confidence and hence makes them more employable. Thats a load of nonsense your trying to put across to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    Why doesn't she set her sights higher and show more ambition with a view to using her feminity, charm and good lucks to wrangle a job from a doe eyed, prospective boss that's male. It wouldn't be the first time its happened! Particularly if she made a good impression with the recruitment agency....there are employers out there that hire based on a unwritten rule of good looks. Particulary sales and marketing roles.....

    Best of luck to her and if she arrives in Ireland I hope she enjoys the hospitality!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Denerick wrote: »
    OK, take a step back here a moment. Someones career should depend on their mental/physical attributes, such as their ability to think rationally, think quickly, 'gift of the gab' or for manual labour physical strength may be important.
    Agreed. I'm not saying a person SHOULD get a job outside of image-based industries primarily because of their looks. However some employers value beauty, unpalatable and all as that is, so why not take advantage? It's one thing to say you'd be all principled but if you were a woman, would you honestly refuse a good job which your looks snared for you... just as a matter of principle? It's a sign of a superficial world that this phenomenon exists in the first place, but a person deciding "right, I've the looks/body - may as well get paid seeing as I can" is not superficial. It's only fleeting anyway so a plan B will be required ultimately.
    But the superficial - ie, if a woman has nice 'assets' - is an absolute nonsense.
    It isn't nonsense - it's a reality in some industries, like fashion, media, PR, marketing, sales... in fact anywhere really, because, to use the usual analogy: if two women are shortlisted for a job and have the exact same in terms of qualifications, training, experience, competency and personality, but one is gorgeous and the other plain - do you honestly think the plain one will get the job? Unless it's a jealous woman doing the hiring, I'd seriously have my doubts.
    I'm simply stating my disgust at the idea that a woman 'gets ahead' in the world via her good lucks.
    It's not actually that disgusting. We all have various qualities that shape our lives and affect how we get on in life - what's wrong with looks being among those qualities? I'd prefer a woman to get ahead in her career because of her looks than because of being, for instance, a nasty bully... which has been known to happen.
    Its demeaning to women and to womens ambition.
    Only in your opinion - and maybe let women be the ones to decide whether it's demeaning. Also, if you look at it from another perspective, it can actually be quite empowering. I'd agree it would be fairly pitiful if a woman got promoted purely because of her looks. But if she's hard-working, self-motivated, competent, smart, good with people... and good-looking, her looks will nudge her ahead.
    The business world is full of fat ugly men. They didn't get there because they were pretty. Why should it be any different for women?
    Welcome to reality - there is more of an emphasis on looks where women are concerned. Blame the men who do the hiring... and some of the women too. A woman's looks will be far more scrutinised than a man's - that is the world we live in. Look at newsreaders - are the female ones ever as old as the male ones? There's a reason for that. Something to do with most employers being male I would wager...
    You can't fight it - it's too all consuming, therefore use it for your own ends.
    Is that really the best women can do???
    Oh right, blame the women... It's a tad more complex than that.
    Please state which industries based on good looking people I make use of? Because I have a healthy distate for the advertising industry
    You've never bought a product? Advertising works subliminally.
    and although the carnal male in me likes pornography, I think that says a lot about 'good looking women making it in the world' in the first place.
    But as you say, you like pornography which features good-looking women (ish) with good bodies.
    I'll put it like this, if I were an attractive woman and I was hired on that grounds alone, I'd be ashamed of myself.
    :rolleyes: Priceless. You'd be ashamed of "yourself"? Because it's YOUR fault that you were hired? LOL
    What you're forgetting too is there's a recession at the moment, a situation which requires the dropping of certain principles... But maybe she should just get the dole rather than use her looks to get a job - all in the name of not demeaning "women"...
    Photojoe wrote: »
    I'm assuming she is not in the top few tiers of good looking girls or she would be doing modelling work.
    That just seems like a dig at the OP. Maybe she's not tall enough for modelling? OP, that's an idea though - get on to agencies here too.
    Photojoe wrote: »
    Better looking people work in better jobs. This is true for both sexes and many studies have confirmed it. Welcome to planet Earth.
    Not "better jobs" full stop. But ones where image is important, yes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭none


    Photojoe wrote: »
    I'm assuming she is not in the top few tiers of good looking girls or she would be doing modelling work. Division 1 and 2 looking girls work in decent shops, bars, waitressing etc.
    Regarding modelling, these are the main Dublin agencies.
    http://www.1stoption.ie/
    http://www.compton.ie/
    http://www.assetsmodels.com/
    http://www.morgantheagency.com/
    They have many foreigners on their books but most top jobs go to Irish. For a student could be a pretty good fit though. I'd recommend to get a few good pics (made at her home as it might work our great deal cheaper than doing it here) and visit them all in person with her portfolio.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Photojoe


    Not "better jobs" full stop. But ones where image is important, yes.
    Incorrect. The more attractive somebody is the more likely their success in any job. Its a fairly well studied and known sociological phenomenom. Same for height.

    It doesn't fit a lot of peoples cuddly pc view of the world but thats their issue.

    BBC Quote, couldn't be arsed to find all these original studies.


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8011697.stm
    One reason why good looks may be linked to success in people's minds is that it can be a reality. Many studies conclude that better-looking people are given positive personality traits by others, the so-called halo effect. The impact is that they earn more money (about 12% on average), are happier, more popular and more likely to be acquitted in court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭DannyKing


    iseeyou wrote: »
    Yeah promo's is a good route to go down, try companies such a lites group, Verve, Publicis D, Giraffe marketing. Tell you what, go to jobs.ie and look under "promotional merchandising" some are requesting girls from Eastern Europe at the moment. Although I have to warn you, I do it and before xmas it was booming, but since then its been extremely quiet, worth a try applying though since the summer is back and thats the busiest time of year, best of luck with it!

    Hi, I see you mention Publisis d here. Do you work for them or could you share some info on them if possible? Just I'm supposed to be starting with them shortly but have never worked in marketing before so am a bit sceptical as to what will be involved... Thanks..


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