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NCT: Door problem

  • 08-05-2009 12:16pm
    #1
    Notorious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭


    The car has been due an NCT since February and its going to need some work to pass. One of the problems I'm having regards both the rear doors. The doors open fine but to close them they need to be pushed closed (90% of the time). You can't just "slam" them. I think there is something wrong with the door locks, possible a broken spring; you've got to press hard against the door to get them to close. I don't see this as a safety issue as once the doors are closed properly they won't reopen.

    Would this fail the NCT?


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  • #2
    tzf60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 ✭tzf60


    Would you consider welding the back doors shut, then put a bit of filler in the gaps to pretend its a 3-door? Would this be 'economical'............????


  • #3
    Cosmo K
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Cosmo K


    Notorious wrote: »
    Would this fail the NCT?

    Yes!


  • #4
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    tzf60 wrote: »
    Would you consider welding the back doors shut, then put a bit of filler in the gaps to pretend its a 3-door? Would this be 'economical'............????
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  • #5
    Darragh29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    tzf60 wrote: »
    Would you consider welding the back doors shut, then put a bit of filler in the gaps to pretend its a 3-door? Would this be 'economical'............????

    Jasus don't do this because they have to be able to open the doors to check the seat belts, if they see two welded doors, they'll fail you for sure and you'll have the mother of all problems then with two welded doors to sort out!

    You should fail for that because if the doors can't be properly shut, then there is a possibility that someone will fall out of a door that is half open.

    Extract from page 15 of the NCT CaR Test Regulations 2004 Manual:

    Examine the general condition of all doors.

    1. Open each door and check the security of catches and receivers.

    2. Close the door and, without using the handle, note whether the door primary and secondary catches hold the door closed.

    Reasons for failure:

    Doors

    (1) A door missing.

    (2) Door cannot be shut or opened normally or is liable to open on its own.

    (3) Insecure receivers or catch.

    See:

    http://www.ncts.ie/nctmanual.pdf

    For the manual...

    My advice is get the issue sorted out properly.


  • #6
    Mr. darragh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 43 ✭Mr. darragh


    a bit of oil/grease will probally sort that out


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  • #7
    Notorious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭Notorious


    Mr. darragh wrote:
    a bit of oil/grease will probally sort that out

    I'll give that a try first. Don't really have the few million that the mechanic would be looking for.

    Damn fiats.


  • #8
    Darragh29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    Notorious wrote: »
    I'll give that a try first. Don't really have the few million that the mechanic would be looking for.

    Damn fiats.

    Have a look at it first yourself and see what the story is with it. I've been working on cars for too many years now and I can tell you for sure that these these things are usually 90% common sense...

    What exactly is the problem with the door??? When you open the door, will it open without an issue??? When you go to close it, what happens?

    I've just read your OP, you say the door has to be "pushed" to close it. I'm assuming that the problem is that it has to be "pushed" harder than most doors to close. It sounds like the latch could be stiff or loose...


  • #9
    Darragh29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    Have a look at the two images attached. One image is of the door lock and the other is of the strike plate, which is the little U shaped latch that the door lock will connect with when you close the door...

    These two components make up your door locking assembly. Don't worry about central locking or remote central locking, these have nothing to do with your issue for the moment.

    Now, when you get a chance, go out to your car and do the following, (you'll need a screwdriver):

    (1) Check the strike plate and the door lock with a screwdriver to see if either component is loose. Either componnet could be loose, as in it might not be loose when you put your hand on it but it could be shifting when the door closes so put a screwdriver onto the latch first and check it for movement/security to the door area and then check the actual lock in the door for movement/play. If either component is loose, then they can be tightened up and this will resolve the issue for you. If the strike plate is loose, you might have to fiddle around with repositioning it but this is just a quick job.

    (2) If both components are secure, have a look at the door lock and see if there is any dirt in the lock. Get a can of WD40 from any decent hardware shop and squirt a good dose of it into each lock and open and close the door around ten times and see if there is any improvement.

    I'd say this might just resolve your problem, but in any event, do these tasks before bringing the car to a mechanic.


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