How many Leinster fans for finals?

Tim Robbins

With the current ticket fiasco, how many Leinster fans do you reckon there will be in the final?

I reckon:

1.
I reckon 15 - 20,000 Munster fans have tickets. 5,000 will part with them.

2.
Branch allocation is 7,000.

3.
I reckon about 3,000 bought them from ERC prior to the quarters.

So I can't see they're being more than 15,000 Leinster fans at the game, unfortunately.

[Jackass]

I would say close to 20,000 Leinster fans will make it. When you add to that the amount of people who will be going and supporting Leinster (our Munster cousins mostly) we'll have about half the stadium.

I suppose it's a knock on effect from sucsess that Munster fans have enough faith in their team to buy tickets at the start of every season and also know what it's like to miss a final due to not being able to get tickets.

That will happen to a lot of Leinster fans this season and it's all about building for the future as well as working for the present. Please god a Leinster win and it will boost Leinster crowds even further and will surely make the ticketing Leinster fans get in earlier and earlier with the more sucsess we can enjoy.

But that's for another day. I just hope we get a really good crowd and more importantly can get a really good result!!

louthandproud

Tim Robbins wrote: »

With the current ticket fiasco, how many Leinster fans do you reckon there will be in the final?

I reckon:

1.
I reckon 15 - 20,000 Munster fans have tickets. 5,000 will part with them.

2.
Branch allocation is 7,000.

3.
I reckon about 3,000 bought them from ERC prior to the quarters.

So I can't see they're being more than 15,000 Leinster fans at the game, unfortunately.

Why is the ticket situation a fiasco? It's been handled pretty much the same way it was every other year! Think Jackass said it all above, anyone could have gotten tickets earlier in the year if they were willing to take a chance on their team being in it! Personally I have struck it unlucky on those stakes before and bought on years when my team wasn't in it, it's just a chance you've got to take if you think your team might make it.

Tim Robbins

louthandproud wrote: »

Why is the ticket situation a fiasco?

I think it would be fairer that tickets were sold after the semis. In the same way tickets for the semi's are sold after the quarters. You don't have to take a chance your team will make it through the quarters, book flights etc.

I think the reason the ERC do what they do is because they are afraid two French teams will make the final.

phog

Tim Robbins wrote: »

I think it would be fairer that tickets were sold after the semis. In the same way tickets for the semi's are sold after the quarters. You don't have to take a chance your team will make it through the quarters, book flights etc.

I think the reason the ERC do what they do is because they are afraid two French teams will make the final.

Remember Lansdowne Rd 2003 - a half full stadium and two French teams, the ERC learnt thier marketing lesson that year and I cant see them change it for a while yet. Hard on the true supporter but thats life, I've pre-purchased final tickets a number of times in hope and travelled anyway, this year I opted for a day trip with killester travel and after Saturday I took my option to cancel .

Best of luck in sourcing tickets.

dreamer_ire

louthandproud wrote: »

Why is the ticket situation a fiasco? It's been handled pretty much the same way it was every other year! Think Jackass said it all above, anyone could have gotten tickets earlier in the year if they were willing to take a chance on their team being in it! Personally I have struck it unlucky on those stakes before and bought on years when my team wasn't in it, it's just a chance you've got to take if you think your team might make it.

It's a great day out and even better if your team make it. Have to say I agree with the way the tickets are allocated... there is nothing worse than a half full stadium ('03).

danthefan

Leinster will be doing well to have 10k fans in the stadium imo.

Tomtom364

nah lads the tickets situation is fine. just leinster havnt had the experience of it yet.

the heineken cup final is for all supporters of heineken cup rugby. not just the two teams involved. and if you wana support your team then have a little faith

do it the munster way (which leinster have recentally tried to hijack) and, BELIEVE

Photojoe

danthefan wrote: »

Leinster will be doing well to have 10k fans in the stadium imo.

Thats not far off what we had last weekend .

Tomtom364

Photojoe wrote: »

Thats not far off what we had last weekend .

yes but the final isnt in dublin, and leinster fans do have a tendency not to travel as much

[Jackass]

Well this season we weren't too bad!!

A good few made it to Quins! A good few made it to Wasps! A decent few made it to Limerick! And it's a Heineken Cup Final!

Old stereotypes die hard, but the ones with Leinster fans are getting a little tiresome.

What do you reckon the headline will be if Leinster lose the final?

"Rudderless Ladyboys relent under pressure and bottle it again!"

What were the headlines when Munster failed at their first 2 attempts?

"Heroic Munster's never say die attitude wins all the hearts, but not the trophy, when all the odds are stacked against them!"

Photojoe

[Jackass] wrote: »

Well this season we weren't too bad!!

A good few made it to Quins! A good few made it to Wasps! A decent few made it to Limerick! And it's a Heineken Cup Final!

Old stereotypes die hard, but the ones with Leinster fans are getting a little tiresome.

What do you reckon the headline will be if Leinster lose the final?

"Rudderless Ladyboys relent under pressure and bottle it again!"

What were the headlines when Munster failed at their first 2 attempts?

"Heroic Munster's never say die attitude wins all the hearts, but not the trophy, when all the odds are stacked against them!"

Indeed. So many of these stereotypes got firmly put to bed last weekend both for the players and fans.

Some knob beside me at the match shouted 'choker' at Contepomi when he missed his first kick, a tricky enough one at that.

[Jackass]

Ah I wouldn't turn it into a fan thing, there's feckin idiots on all sets of fans and trust me, if Leinster do brilliant over the next 4 years or so, there will be PLENTY wearing blue (and already is). It's nothing to do with fans, and Munster fans for the most part are great, but was interesting to listen to Rocky on Rugbymatrix talking about how Leinster players focused on the negative press they got and if they went out to prove themselves and won nothing was said and if lost it increased ten fold. It's "pundits" looking to sell papers and the amount of idiots, there's far more than there is knowledgable ones. And it seems there's been given an acceptance and license to say whatever about Leinster, their players and their fans.

That's why this season I'm so desperate (and apperantly the players are too) for us to win the Heineken Cup. We knocked out 2 times champs Wasps, went away and and knocked out No. 2 in the Guninness Premiership, we hammered the untouchable god-like Munster and we (please god) went and beat the No. 1 Guiness Premiership and our crowds were superb throughtout, outnumbered but silencing the home fans in the stoop and outsinging them, silencing and outsinging "the best fans in the world" in Croke Park and hopefully silencing everybody and every hack in Edinburgh.

Sorry, clearly I have a big chip on my shoulder it's not a swipe at anybody but the media and treatment Leinster have gotten.

If we can take that last step, then every single stereotype about us has been absolutely p!ssed on and we will have a Heineken Cup to prove it and they can never take that away from us and everytime they try and beat us with an old stick, we'll have a baseball bat to hit back with!! :mad:

haha, I've gone well off topic though.......yeah OP, I hope there'll be LOTS of Leinster fans!

oconnrpt

Let's look at this locically !

Murrayfield holds 67,500

The organisers (The ERC ) have kept back 15,000 tickets for the two competing teams. This leaves 52,500.

7,500 have been kept for the corporates (sponsors etc.) This leaves 45,000.

These 45,000 have been on sale from the Scottish Rugby Union and ticketmaster since november 2008.

The organisers have announced that 35% of these ( 15,750 ) have been sold in Ireland. it can be assumed that at most 6,000 are with Leinster Supporters. Add that to the 7,500 recent allocation and you can assume that 13,500 will be the maximum number of Leinster supporters at the final.

Most Leinster Supporters I speak to are cheesed off with the rip-off effect , so it seems only those with travel and accomodation booked already are sure to go.

Aidric

[Jackass] wrote: »

Old stereotypes die hard, but the ones with Leinster fans are getting a little tiresome.

It's not a stereotype to say Leinster fans don't travel well. They don't have a massive fan base and I can't see them having anything in excess of 10-12,000 fans travel.

anonymous_joe

Aidric wrote: »

It's not a stereotype to say Leinster fans don't travel well. They don't have a massive fan base and I can't see them having anything in excess of 10-12,000 fans travel.

It is and it isn't.

Leinster's fans are less numerous than Munster's, but I'd suggest that in terms of dedicated fans neither side has more nor less than the others. There are after all fairly similar numbers of fans going to the average bread and butter Magners games from both fans.

In terms of people game for a big day out, Munster do have more fans I'd reckon, but given however many thousand of us went over for the Wasps game I'd suggest that claiming there's no Leinster travelling fans is a bit silly. Also keep in mind, that most Leinster fans were not expecting to be in the Heineken Cup final this season. We all hoped we would be obviously, and were aware that there was a good chance of it, but for obvious reasons a large number of Munster fans assumed they'd be in the final. (And not without reason before anyone accuses me of this being some kind of attack.)

If roughly 15,000 of the 45,000 have been sold in Ireland I'd guess they mostly ended up down in Munster after all. Some will definitely have gone to the other provinces, one of mates has gone to the last three or so finals with his dad, the one year they're not going and Leinster finally make it. But anyway, my point is, if when tickets were released for sale, Leinster fans had assumed they'd be in the final more would have invested, but clearly a lot of fans weren't convinced we'd make it.

Tomtom364

id say munster do have more dedicated fans.

You used wasps as an example. Last year munster had about 12,000 fans travel to wasps.

Bit more then the leinster ammount this year

anonymous_joe

Tomtom364 wrote: »

id say munster do have more dedicated fans.

You used wasps as an example. Last year munster had about 12,000 fans travel to wasps.

Bit more then the leinster ammount this year

My definition of a dedicated fan is someone who goes to all the homegames though. Not someone who goes for the pretty trips to nice cities.

In that regard, numbers of fans aren't much different. Obviously Munster have more fans, no Leinster fan's foolish enough to doubt that.

Tomtom364

Richo arean is by no means a pretty trip in a nice city.

And alot of munster fans go to all the home games too. There is lines of cars going from cork to limerick on match day

anonymous_joe

Tomtom364 wrote: »

Richo arean is by no means a pretty trip in a nice city.

And alot of munster fans go to all the home games too. There is lines of cars going from cork to limerick on match day

I said there's a similar number from both clubs going to the home games. ^^

Tomtom364

anonymous_joe wrote: »

I said there's a similar number from both clubs going to the home games. ^^

And im saying alot (as in more) go to munsters.
Also, my comment on traveling was in realtion to your comment about wasps and leinsters traveling support

anonymous_joe

Tomtom364 wrote: »

And im saying alot (as in more) go to munsters.
Also, my comment on traveling was in realtion to your comment about wasps and leinsters traveling support

Near identical average home attendances, more to Munster this year more to Leinster last. Again, similar numbers.

And both sides have decent travelling support, with Munster having a larger fanbase, and ergo, larger travelling crowds.

RuggieBear

let it go lads.

MikeHoncho

Seems to be alot of Munster fans trying to offload packages with flights from Shannon and not selling the match tickets seperately. Would hate to see a scenario where these tickets went to waste because they wouldnt sell them on their own. Getting over there isnt the issue its accomodation and match tickets that are scarce.

Tim Robbins

RuggieBear wrote: »

let it go lads.

RuggieBear doing a good job of the breakdown as usual.

garbanzo

Well there's 10 of us heading over on a coach trip on the Friday morning, out via Belfast and onwards to the Scottish capital. Can't wait. Going to be a great weekend.

As said earlier . . . believe, or to borrow a cúpla focal from Barak Obams " yes we can . . . or, is féidir linn . . . is féidir linn"

Paulw

A group of us going by car on the ferry Saturday morning. Gonna make a weekend of it too. Should be fun.

Now we just need the right result too. Come on Leinster.

robgloster

me and a few of my mates all munster fans but will be decked out in blue for the trip . Managed to get a few leinster flags from the semi to bring along too. My Enemy's enemy is my friend

thesweeney

In my opinion Leinster fans have no leg to stand on been cheesed off about the ticket situation. They should of bought the tickets back in November like the rest of us. And it's not a case of Munster fans assuming they would be in the final etc....I for one have bought final tickets for the last 6 years. Sold them on when we didnt get there.

Munster fan myself , I'll still be going to the final booked everything back in November for a great price. I can understand why people want to sell the package (flights etc) rather than just the ticket. There are Leinster fans out there that cant get flights or accommodation at a good price, so why not.

It's goina be a great weekend! Hopefully bringing the cup back to Ireland. Dont think I can force myself to wear blue, but Ill wear green and be singing Allez le blu all the way!:)

Anyone know where the good pubs in edinburgh are for the rugby??

robgloster

alot of Munster fans i know will be selling their tickets on but still going Edinburgh might acount for some people not selling on their whole package

Tim Robbins

thesweeney wrote: »

In my opinion Leinster fans have no leg to stand on been cheesed off about the ticket situation. They should of bought the tickets back in November like the rest of us.

Ah come on. The only reason why the ERC sell tickets this way is because they are afraid two French teams would make it to the final and they'd loose money.

There's no other reason.

You don't buy tickets for the semi's until your team has won the quarter, so why should you have to buy a ticket for final when your team hasn't even made it out of the group yet.

thesweeney

Tim Robbins wrote: »

so why should you have to buy a ticket for final when your team hasn't even made it out of the group yet.

Cos you love Rugby and love the Heineken cup... and should have the belief that your team will make it.

Diabhal Beag

Best of luck Leinster fans. Make sure ye are all decked out in the kit and scarves and make your voices heard. Lets all get behind Heaslip and Co.

danthefan

thesweeney wrote: »

Cos you love Rugby and love the Heineken cup... and should have the belief that your team will make it.

Oh ffs, not everyone can commit to going to a game 6 months in advance that their team may or may not be in. Far too many tickets go on general sale.

garbanzo

robgloster wrote: »

me and a few of my mates all munster fans but will be decked out in blue for the trip . Managed to get a few leinster flags from the semi to bring along too. My Enemy's enemy is my friend

Munster for life . . . . Leinster for a day eh robgloster! Great stuff. That was me in Cardiff when Munster won their first H Cup.

Great day, crap trip home but that story deserves a special whole thread in itself.

anonymous_joe

Going myself. Three of my mates are heading too. Should be fun.

robgloster

garbanzo wrote: »

Munster for life . . . . Leinster for a day eh robgloster! Great stuff. That was me in Cardiff when Munster won their first H Cup.

Great day, crap trip home but that story deserves a special whole thread in itself.

Ya was thinking of getting some T-shirts with that on it just like you guys did in 2006, 2008.

suppafly

there should be much problem with getting tickets. There are plenty of them about. Theres loads on ebay, and the majority of them are going only a small bit more than face value

Tim Robbins

thesweeney wrote: »

Cos you love Rugby and love the Heineken cup... and should have the belief that your team will make it.

This is heading into another silly Munster / Leinster slagging match.

Goodbye.

thesweeney

Ehhh No. Leicester fans would be told the same. Get over yourself lad.

Just seen a mad Leinster bus...painted blue...flags galore...best thing Ive ever seen! Im sure that will be on the Ferry, some laugh! Fair play to them.

Leinster Forum has lots of tickets there as well, mostly all face value if anyone is looking.

madson

Granted in the past Leinster fans might not have travel as well as the Munster fans but i still reckon there will be at least 17k going over if not 20k. like myself and the majority of the season ticket holders i know going over we didn't get our tickets from the Leinster lottery.
I think anyone that wants a ticket will get one as there is a lot going around at face value the only problem is transport and getting somewhere to stay.

thomond2006

Do we get a prize for picking the winner?

A time machine to transport us back to 17:30, 5th May 2009 would be nice.

thomond2006

Well, it's only 19 hours until the KO.

Hopefully the Leinster fans will do a Munster and turn up in their tens of thousands.

danthefan

So how many Leinster fans were there? It was a lot anyway.

Blisterman

I'd say we easily outnumbered them by 3-1.

By midnight in the city centre, it seemed more like 20-1.

thecoolfreak

danthefan wrote: »

So how many Leinster fans were there? It was a lot anyway.

Looked like the number was around 40,000 or so