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7mb downgrade to 3mb

  • 06-05-2009 5:47pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭


    If anybody else is thinking of this, i'll let you know how it goes.

    I'm downgrading because i want lower pings for gaming.


    I dont download much either 10-20gb a month.

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    Pinging www.boards.ie [89.234.66.107] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=58
    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=58
    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=58
    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=58

    Ping statistics for 89.234.66.107:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 29ms, Maximum = 31ms, Average = 30ms
    Tracing route to www.boards.ie [89.234.66.107]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
    2 25 ms * 26 ms b-ras3.mvw.galway.eircom.net [159.134.155.12]
    3 24 ms 25 ms 24 ms 86.43.244.113
    4 28 ms 29 ms 28 ms 86.43.244.153
    5 29 ms 47 ms 29 ms to-inex-dub-deg-gw.digiweb.ie [193.242.111.20]
    6 30 ms 31 ms 31 ms ip-89-234-66-107.dedi.digiweb.ie [89.234.66.107]
    Pinging www.sony.com [64.37.182.61] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 64.37.182.61: bytes=32 time=187ms TTL=243
    Reply from 64.37.182.61: bytes=32 time=187ms TTL=243
    Reply from 64.37.182.61: bytes=32 time=191ms TTL=243
    Reply from 64.37.182.61: bytes=32 time=188ms TTL=243

    Ping statistics for 64.37.182.61:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 187ms, Maximum = 191ms, Average = 188ms

    Results tomorrow! (Thursday)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭Praetorian


    You can get good pings from Eircom on the 7 meg lines. You just need to ask them to drop the interleaving to the minimum level. You may have to sacrifice some bandwidth.

    I have a 7.6 m/bit line with Eircom and my pings are =


    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.eircom.net

    Pinging home.eircom.net [159.134.198.138] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=60
    Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=60
    Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=60
    Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=60

    Ping statistics for 159.134.198.138:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 7ms, Maximum = 7ms, Average = 7ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.rte.ie

    Pinging www.rte.ie.nsatc.net [89.207.56.140] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 89.207.56.140: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=61
    Reply from 89.207.56.140: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=61
    Reply from 89.207.56.140: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=61
    Reply from 89.207.56.140: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=61

    Ping statistics for 89.207.56.140:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 7ms, Maximum = 8ms, Average = 7ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.boards.ie

    Pinging www.boards.ie [89.234.66.107] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=59
    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=59
    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=59
    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=59

    Ping statistics for 89.234.66.107:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 9ms, Maximum = 11ms, Average = 9ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.cs.jolt.co.uk

    Pinging www.cs.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.9] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 195.149.21.9: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=58
    Reply from 195.149.21.9: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=58
    Reply from 195.149.21.9: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=58
    Reply from 195.149.21.9: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=58

    Ping statistics for 195.149.21.9:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 22ms, Maximum = 24ms, Average = 22ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>^A


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Champ


    Praetorian wrote:
    You can get good pings from Eircom on the 7 meg lines. You just need to ask them to drop the interleaving to the minimum level. You may have to sacrifice some bandwidth.

    I thought when all the upgrades were rolled out that this was discussed at length and ultimately proved to be futile... i.e. Eircom couldn't or wouldn't change the interleaving levels for individual lines? Thus the only way to lower interleaving was to switch to the lower speed package.

    Isn't fastpath the lowest interleaving level? I believe some people way back specifically requested that interleaving level and got promptly refused.

    You are ona home package and not a business one right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    +1
    Although not as good as above, these are my pings on the 7.6mbit package with interleaving lowered, just ring them and ask for a technician to change it, mine were around 42-45ms to boards.ie before I got them change it. They can't turn interleaving off, but they can lower it individually for each line

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    Never judge by the speedtest.net ping times, these are all over the place sometimes, judge from command prompt only


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭Praetorian


    Champ wrote: »
    I thought when all the upgrades were rolled out that this was discussed at length and ultimately proved to be futile... i.e. Eircom couldn't or wouldn't change the interleaving levels for individual lines? Thus the only way to lower interleaving was to switch to the lower speed package.

    Isn't fastpath the lowest interleaving level? I believe some people way back specifically requested that interleaving level and got promptly refused.

    You are ona home package and not a business one right?


    You can get it changed on home or business packages on adsl1 tech. Your supposed to be able to get the changes done via other bitstream operators as well. You can't get interleaving lowered on adsl2+ packages on eircom exchanges currently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Calebmcd


    Praetorian, nice pings. I asked they didnt know what i was talkin about. Then eventualy they said the did. And lowered it. But it didn't seem to change.

    So i decided to change to 3mb instead. Its been 6 months.
    ou can't get interleaving lowered on adsl2+ packages on eircom exchanges currently.

    Mine is ADSL2+ enabled, but i dont get it. I get the adsl. so is that why the ping didnt lower?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭johnplayerblue


    Praetorian wrote: »
    You can get good pings from Eircom on the 7 meg lines. You just need to ask them to drop the interleaving to the minimum level. You may have to sacrifice some bandwidth.

    I have a 7.6 m/bit line with Eircom and my pings are =


    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.eircom.net

    Pinging home.eircom.net [159.134.198.138] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=60
    Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=60
    Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=60
    Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=60

    Ping statistics for 159.134.198.138:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 7ms, Maximum = 7ms, Average = 7ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.rte.ie

    Pinging www.rte.ie.nsatc.net [89.207.56.140] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 89.207.56.140: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=61
    Reply from 89.207.56.140: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=61
    Reply from 89.207.56.140: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=61
    Reply from 89.207.56.140: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=61

    Ping statistics for 89.207.56.140:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 7ms, Maximum = 8ms, Average = 7ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.boards.ie

    Pinging www.boards.ie [89.234.66.107] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=59
    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=59
    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=59
    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=59

    Ping statistics for 89.234.66.107:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 9ms, Maximum = 11ms, Average = 9ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.cs.jolt.co.uk

    Pinging www.cs.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.9] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 195.149.21.9: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=58
    Reply from 195.149.21.9: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=58
    Reply from 195.149.21.9: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=58
    Reply from 195.149.21.9: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=58

    Ping statistics for 195.149.21.9:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 22ms, Maximum = 24ms, Average = 22ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>^A

    god dam Praetorian how do you manage to have them kinda pings? how far are you from exchange and what interleaving you on if you don't mind me asking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Calebmcd


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    Pinging www.boards.ie [89.234.66.107] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=58
    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=58
    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=58
    Reply from 89.234.66.107: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=58

    Ping statistics for 89.234.66.107:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 31ms, Maximum = 32ms, Average = 31ms

    Ok guys what do i ask eircom now?

    Pings are the same. My parents live 3km further than me, and pings of 20ms on BT.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Since when were Eircom allowing people to ring up and ask for the pings to be reduced? I thought they used to completely go against it and wouldnt do it for anyone??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Calebmcd


    They tell me now, if i was on 7mb i could get low Interleaving. Last time they said that to but it didnt work. They said to if i was on 2mb the could make it better. If its not fixed when my contracts up, i'll change back to BT. They said call back in a few days if it doesnt get better.

    My pings have actually gone up slightly. I might be going back to 7mb next week!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    We tried to tell You not to change, grass is always greener!! :D They weren't that bad to start, 30ms to boards.ie isn't that bad, I've seen much worse

    Don't just ping readings from speedtest servers, these are all over the place, do them from command line. Changing to BT might not make a difference as they just resell Eircom bitstream. Are Your parents on the same exchange?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Calebmcd


    Yes thats my point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Calebmcd


    Got home today was getting pings of 45min 180avg 500max to boards.ie

    So i've upgraded to 7mb again. So tomorrow i'll get my interleaving set to low again.

    I dont understand though, why would a line connected to the same exchange except on BT instead of Eircom have lower pings. The BT line is 3.5km away from the exchange. The Eircom is 0.7km away. Yet the Min on the Eircom is 30-45(max isnt the same, unstable). And the BT has a stable min to max of 14-20.

    The 7mb with low Interleaving was steady at 30ms across the board.
    Do BT have diferent interleaving settings?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Every line is a totally different situation


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