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summons question

  • 05-05-2009 10:05am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭


    hello there,

    my mother found a summons in her letter box which was meant for me. the summons wasn't handed to anyone, just stuffed in the letter box. i don't live at that address anymore either. should that be struck out?

    also the summons was issued over a year after the offence (driving offence) in February but was dated september of the previos year. this surely has to be struck out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,978 ✭✭✭445279.ie


    Nope, can be served by putting in letterbox.

    The summons just needs to be applied for within 6 months of the offence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭boomboombazza


    445279.ie wrote: »
    Nope, can be served by putting in letterbox.

    The summons just needs to be applied for within 6 months of the offence.

    thanks for the reply. what if the letter box isn't mine and i don't live at that address or even that county.

    also not sure what defines when it was applied for.

    the offence was in april 08. summons is dated September 08 but wasn't put in my mums letter box until Feb 09!!:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭happyhappy


    thanks for the reply. what if the letter box isn't mine and i don't live at that address or even that county.

    also not sure what defines when it was applied for.

    the offence was in april 08. summons is dated September 08 but wasn't put in my mums letter box until Feb 09!!:confused:

    offence in april 08, summonses applied for by garda in sept 08, court date is then set and court service sent the summons out to be served, summons served in feb 09 prior to an upcoming court date. thats all in order.

    if it was served in the letter box of your family home, it's proper service, especially if that is the address you gave when stopped.

    it won't be struck out imo. by the way it doesn't matter if it was 'stuffed' in the letter box or in the shape of a paper aeroplane for that matter, once it's in there its served!! :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭Croc


    happyhappy wrote: »
    offence in april 08, summonses applied for by garda in sept 08, court date is then set and court service sent the summons out to be served, summons served in feb 09 prior to an upcoming court date. thats all in order.

    if it was served in the letter box of your family home, it's proper service, especially if that is the address you gave when stopped.

    it won't be struck out imo. by the way it doesn't matter if it was 'stuffed' in the letter box or in the shape of a paper aeroplane for that matter, once it's in there its served!! :D:D:D

    Off the top of my head, it says "Delivery by Hand at Defendants Last or Most Usual Place of Abode"


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,774 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Croc wrote: »
    Off the top of my head, it says "Delivery by Hand at Defendants Last or Most Usual Place of Abode"
    ...but goes on to say...
    5. Save where otherwise provided by statute or by Rules of Court, service of a document shall be effected upon a person in the State by delivering to that person a copy thereof or by leaving the copy for that person at his or her last or most usual place of abode, or at his or her office, shop, factory, home or place of business with that person's husband or wife, as the case may be or with a child or other relative (apparently residing with that person) of that person or of his wife or her husband as the case may be, or with any agent, clerk, servant or employee of that person, or with the person in charge of the house or premises wherein that person usually resides, provided that the person (other than the person upon whom service is to be effected) with whom the copy is left is not under the age of sixteen years and is not the person instituting the proceedings.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    the offence was in april 08. summons is dated September 08 but wasn't put in my mums letter box until Feb 09!!:confused:

    they have 18 months from an offence (a non-indictable one) to serve the summons, it just has to be applied for within 6 months of the offence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭McCrack


    The applicable legislation governing the service of summomses in criminal matters is S22 of the Courts Act 1991:

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1991/en/act/pub/0020/sec0022.html#zza20y1991s22

    Essentially the time limits in criminal proceedings is normally 6 months for a complaint to be made re a District Court offence but offences under the Finance Act 1985 (and others) allow for a period of 12 months which for example having no car tax comes under.

    Once the complaint is made the summons must be served on the accused within 12 months from the date of complaint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭Croc


    ...but goes on to say...

    I think you are quoting the rule with respect to Personal Service,

    There are 3 sorts of service
    Personal
    Registered Post
    Delivery By Hand

    it was the third method that was use used on the OP hence what i was talking about previously.


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,774 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Well, it's not hugely important for the purposes of this thread, but that's the only rule in the DCRs that relates to service of documents for the purposes of the rules from my reading. Taken from here. I'm open to correction on that, of course.


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