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Telecoms Package - a licence to chill

  • 04-05-2009 12:07pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭


    http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=332&Itemid=9

    The "Telecomms package" is due to be voted on May 6th in the EU Parliament.
    If you feel a free and open internet is of importance to you please send a message to Irish MEPs and let them know.

    The EU Council wants to limit your access to the internet by imposing "limitations" on where you can surf and what types of applications are allowed on their networks and how these can be prioritised. So for instance mobile companies or fixed line companies could legally block Skype and there is nothing you can do about it....or torrents or VPNs or ssh or any unauthorised sockets communications.

    I for one have traffic going over specific ports, mostly SCADA data, that could be closed off. I'd therefore have to return to the way it was all done in the 90's, driving around the country like a demented lunatic to examine a few packets of data.

    ISPs will no longer be "data conduits" as they have always, thus far. been. They will now be the "traffic cops" of the internet and decide where/when and what you can do on the net...


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  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,338 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tom Young


    ISPs will no longer be "data conduits" as they have always, thus far. been. They will now be the "traffic cops" of the internet and decide where/when and what you can do on the net...

    Where is this coming from? It conflicts directly with a paper I saw last week. The Telecom Package and the eCommerce Directive (where mere conduit comes from) are completely different and DG McCreevey is not reviewing that from what I know.

    Let's be careful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    Tom Young wrote: »
    Where is this coming from? It conflicts directly with a paper I saw last week. The Telecom Package and the eCommerce Directive (where mere conduit comes from) are completely different and DG McCreevey is not reviewing that from what I know.

    Let's be careful.

    That depends on what you think you saw....the document landscape changes by the day.

    If you mean the Trautman documents then those have been changed (watered down in a compromise agreement) yet again by the EU Council.


    Currently imho the best solution are the Citizens Rights amendments as currently tabled.

    http://www.laquadrature.net/wiki/Mobilisation_vote_Citizen_Rights_Amendments_on_May6_Telecoms_Package_2nd_reading


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭thegoth


    Hi All,

    I was wondering if anyone knows how we can check how our MEP votes in this.

    I want to insure that I never vote for anyone who votes for this.

    Michael


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭zing zong


    agreed!

    anybody know?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    I'm interested in this. Will email tomorrow during daylight :p

    For anyone that wants to know but doesn't know:
    http://www.europarl.ie/irish.html

    ^ List of Irish MEP's.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    EU telecom reform held up over internet rights Wednesday 6 May 2009

    The European Parliament has again amended the telecoms regulatory reform package, in an attempt to underline the right of consumers to freely access the internet. While the MEPs agreed with the bulk of the legislation in a vote on 6 May, they abandoned the political compromise reached with the Council of Ministers over internet access rights and reverted to their previous stance on the issue. Several EU member states had been pushing for the right to allow ISPs to restrict customers' access to the internet if they were found to be repeatedly infringing copyright through online file exchanges. However, the MEPs reinstated by 407 votes in favour with 57 votes against and 171 abstentions a first-reading amendment saying that "no restriction may be imposed on the fundamental rights and freedoms of end users, without a prior ruling by the judicial authorities (...) save when public security is threatened". As the Council has the final say on the legislation, further negotiations will likely be needed as well as another vote in parliament later this year, after the MEP elections in June. Vivane Reding, the EU information society commissioner, urged the Council of Ministers to consider the political consequences of rejecting the legislation due to the new amendment, especially given the important role of the telecoms sector in the economic recovery. The Council of telecoms ministers will meet to discuss the legislation on 12 June.



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    More information here : http://www.laquadrature.net/en/amendment-138-46-adopted-again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    thebman wrote: »
    I'm interested in this. Will email tomorrow during daylight :p

    For anyone that wants to know but doesn't know:
    http://www.europarl.ie/irish.html

    ^ List of Irish MEP's.

    http://www.laquadrature.net/wiki/Telecoms_package_directives_2nd_reading
    Results of the voting by different criteria.

    Only Kathy Sinnott voted to protect the citizens of EU/Ireland.
    All the rest voted to limit your freedom on the internet.

    Here are their records on the voting:

    http://www.laquadrature.net/wiki/Telecoms_package_directives_2nd_reading_IE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭zing zong


    kathy sinnott, the hero of our MEPs judging by the link, and she is an independent, the others are either ignorant of the situation or their priorities are elsewhere

    and according to the replies i got from their offices, they are not ignorant of the situation so..............


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