Bike vandalism to increase in July

kenmc

Apparently there will be 450 more bikes left lying around just asking to be vandalized from july onwards - we're finally getting the bloody JCDecaux bike-rental scheme.

Mucco

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0501/1224245759208.html

smithslist

kenmc wrote: »

Apparently there will be 450 more bikes left lying around just asking to be vandalized from july onwards - we're finally getting the bloody JCDecaux bike-rental scheme.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0501/1224245759208.html

Beside the canal (or the canal) will be one of the pick-up and drop-of points, hope all of you can swim ;-)

Lumen

Depending on the rental locations, might be handy.

If often want to pop up to the bike shops on DNS but don't happen to have a bike handy, and it takes ages to walk there and back, and even longer by taxi.

Ciaran500

Another one going in at the top Capel Street where it meets Bolton Street. Just infront of the college.

Caroline_ie

... like the M50 upgrades and the millenium spire ... too late for bike week

penexpers

Another one going up outside the Bull and Castle pub opposite Christ Church.

kenmc

penexpers wrote:

Another one going up outside the Bull and Castle pub opposite Christ Church.

Now THATS' gonna be handy, whatcya reckon BeerNut?

rottenhat

kenmc wrote: »

Now THATS' gonna be handy, whatcya reckon BeerNut?

I reckon that's a Boards cycling pub crawl on the cards.

BeerNut

Yeah, I only just realised what they are doing there. Is it too late to request another station outside Porterhouse North?

kenmc

rottenhat wrote: »

I reckon that's a Boards cycling pub crawl on the cards.

No reason to crawl - go straight to B&C, do not pass go, do not collect £200

BeerNut

Here's the locations list, courtesy of our friends at the AA:

* Anne Street South – On Street Location
* Blessington Street/Berkeley Street Junction- On Street Location
* Bolton Street / Capel Street Junction- Footpath Location
* Chancery Street- On Street Location
* Charlemont Place- On Street Location
* Christchurch Place-Castle Street – Footpath Location
* Cornmarket – On Street Location or Potential Footpath Option
* Custom House Quay ( near Sean O Casey Bridge)- Footpath Location- Dockland ampshires
* Dame Court-Exchequer Street Junction- On Street Location
* Dame Street (Barnardos Square) – Paved Area of Square an Option
* Earlsfort Terrace- On Street Location
* Eccles Street- Footpath Location
* Fitzwilliam Sq North- On Street Location
* Fownes Street Upper-Central Bank- On Street Location
* Frederick Street North/ Hardwicke Street Junction- On Street Location
* Georges Quay (Talbot Memorial Bridge junction) – Footpath Location
* Golden Lane- On Street Location
* Grantham Street/Camden Street Lower Junction- On Street Location
* Harbourmaster Place (adjacent to IFSC and Connolly Station) - On Street Location
* Herbert Place/ Baggot Street Lower Junction- On Street Location
* James Street East- On Street Location
* Leinster Street South- On Street Location
* Luke Street - On Street Location
* Marlbourough Street- On Street Location
* Merrion Square East- On Street Location
* Merrion Square West- On Street Location
* Molesworth Street- On Street Location
* Mountjoy Square West- On Street Location
* Ormond Quay Upper - On Street Location
* Parnell Square North- On Street Location
* Parnell Street- Footpath Location
* Pearse Street – Footpath Location
* Princes Street North/ O Connell Street Junction - On Street Location
* Portobello Harbour/ Richmond Row/- Paved Area or On Street Options
* Smithfield. On Street Location
* St Stephens Green East- On Street Location
* St Stephens Green South- On Street Location
* Talbot Street- On Street Location
* Wilton Terrace/ Leeson Street Lower Junction - On Street Location
* Wolfe Tone Park/Jervis Street -On Street Location (Potential Paved Area Option)

rottenhat

kenmc wrote: »

No reason to crawl - go straight to B&C, do not pass go, do not collect £200

Do order the ribs....mmm, ribs.

Jawgap

Couple of observations:-

1 - Great to see Mick Wallace doing the work - one of the few builders who deserves to see out this recession.

2 - What happens if you arrive at a station and it's full? Do you have to go find another one to put the bike back? I assume the city centre stations will fill up quite quickly while the outer ones will have plenty of open spots as people pick up bikes to cycle into town

3 - Some of the locations are quite good

4 - I wonder if / when these start to go missing will we see the Guards begin to take bike crime seriously? Or will they still not get involved with it at all

LDB

Jawgap wrote: »

4 - I wonder if / when these start to go missing will we see the Guards begin to take bike crime seriously? Or will they still not get involved with it at all

Don't know if theft will be an issue as they say "...will have to pay a large deposit when renting a bicycle"

Lumen

LDB wrote: »

Don't know if theft will be an issue as they say "...will have to pay a large deposit when renting a bicycle"

Er, that assumes that the thief is the renter!

LDB

Lumen wrote: »

Er, that assumes that the thief is the renter!

Oh yeah! good point!

I'm way too trusting

Chips Lovell

Nice one. Stations near my house and office.

kenmc

It's an interesting point though - at what point in time do you cease to become liable for the bike - presumably it's once you put it back in a lockup?

kenmc

el tonto wrote: »

Nice one. Stations near my house and office.

Would they be euro enough for you though?

Chips Lovell

kenmc wrote: »

Would they be euro enough for you though?

I'd be in my civvies. I don't wear white shorts everywhere you know.

Heisenberg.

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Raam

el tonto wrote: »

I'd be in my civvies. I don't wear white shorts everywhere you know.

I always assumed that you have em on underneath so that if a race suddenly starts nearby, you can run into a phonebooth and come out as EuroMan! Although phonebooths with room to change are few and far between these days.

kenmc

Scien wrote: »

In Oslo if you're taking the bike after midnight you had to first solve a simple maths equation on the swipe card machine before the bike is released.

What the hell does that prove, that you're good at simple maths?

Heisenberg.

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DirkVoodoo

Gmail had something similar to stop people coming in hammered and deciding to send emails to ex-girlfriends.

You could set the problem difficulty and the amount of time you had to solve it.

It was called "Mail Goggles".

blorg

There's a map here on the AA site. Look forward to this coming into effect, they should really extend it down with a station at Heuston though.

pburns

blorg wrote: »

There's a map here on the AA site. Look forward to this coming into effect, they should really extend it down with a station at Heuston though.

Yeah, a station in Heuston seems to be a blaringly obvious omission...

petethedrummer

pburns wrote: »

Yeah, a station in Heuston seems to be a blaringly obvious omission...

This is Ireland.

crazydingo

Ciaran500 wrote: »

Another one going in at the top Capel Street where it meets Bolton Street. Just infront of the college.

I was wondering what they were doing there!

DadaKopf

Yeah, spotted a rack going in at the Charlemont St. canal bridge. Exciting!

Mucco

petethedrummer wrote: »

pburns wrote:

Yeah, a station in Heuston seems to be a blaringly obvious omission...

This is Ireland.

There won't be any bikes outside mainline stations in London either. The reason being that all the commuters will pile off the trains, cycle to their offices, and leave the bikes there, so there will be no bikes at the station racks after 8AM.

M

Húrin

blorg wrote: »

There's a map here on the AA site. Look forward to this coming into effect, they should really extend it down with a station at Heuston though.

That is ridiculously biased against the west side of the city centre.

Chris Peak

Mucco wrote: »

There won't be any bikes outside mainline stations in London either. The reason being that all the commuters will pile off the trains, cycle to their offices, and leave the bikes there, so there will be no bikes at the station racks after 8AM.

M

Also, nobody is going to cycle back to the station laded down with all their goodies from the shopping trip to the big shmoke..

Thomas_S_Hunterson

Húrin wrote: »

That is ridiculously biased against the west side of the city centre.

It pretty much hits the city centre bang on.

DrGroove

and 450 bikes for a city that has more than 1M people.

Too little, too late, and in microcosm of what's wrong with this basket case state.
:mad:

monument

I'm repeating myself at this stage, but the scale of this seems too small compared to the Paris bike rental system and the planned one in London. There's even a danger it could fail in part because it does not have enoufe of a mass.

At least more locations such as tourist attractions like Collins Barracks and Guinness, as well as maybe the IMMA (Although maybe they did not include these as it would have shown how hard it can be to cycle from Guinness to Collins Barracks, even tho they are only a short distance from each other).

blorg

Mucco wrote: »

There won't be any bikes outside mainline stations in London either. The reason being that all the commuters will pile off the trains, cycle to their offices, and leave the bikes there, so there will be no bikes at the station racks after 8AM.

Barcelona and Paris seem to manage it Then again they have (much) more bikes to begin with, if you look at their bike station maps it would be sort of difficult NOT to have a station beside mainline rail stations

http://www.en.velib.paris.fr/trouver_une_station?recherche=gare+du+nord
http://www.en.velib.paris.fr/trouver_une_station?recherche=gare+montparnasse

Húrin

Sean_K wrote: »

It pretty much hits the city centre bang on.

It really doesn't. Why on earth would there not be stations on important streets like Thomas St, Cork St and James' St? None anywhere near Stoneybatter or Kilmainham either. Just because the west side does not have the 'high-end' shopping streets like Grafton and Henry St, does not mean that it is not an important part of the city centre.

Gavin

Húrin wrote: »

It really doesn't. Why on earth would there not be stations on important streets like Thomas St, Cork St and James' St? None anywhere near Stoneybatter or Kilmainham either. Just because the west side does not have the 'high-end' shopping streets like Grafton and Henry St, does not mean that it is not an important part of the city centre.

Maybe, but it does means there's less people on those streets...

DadaKopf

Yep, the sites seem to be unevenly balanced. Clearly, the scheme is designed for high visibility. Not many shoppers and tourists go to Stoneybatter. I just hope this exclusion is intended for the scheme to expand 'due to popular demand' due to the scheme's high visibility. Not sure that can happen at JC Deceaux's expense given the contract's already been signed. I dunno.

jebidiah

one thing i did see in barcelona was vans with bikes on trailers taking bikes away from some of the stations, these bikes were probably being redistributed to outer stations?
that could be a good way to combat over crowding at popular spots

aswell as being taked for repair obviously

"edit" it may also create some new jobs!!

jebidiah

DadaKopf wrote: »

Yep, the sites seem to be unevenly balanced. Clearly, the scheme is designed for high visibility. Not many shoppers and tourists go to Stoneybatter. I just hope this exclusion is intended for the scheme to expand 'due to popular demand' due to the scheme's high visibility. Not sure that can happen at JC Deceaux's expense given the contract's already been signed. I dunno.

maybe they are starting small with a centralized layout, with plans to expand in relation to feedback from users?

europhile

Will locks be supplied if you're going to leave them elsewhere than at one of the bike stations?

maninasia

It's nice to see this scheme being tried, it's my impression they are not rolling out fully until they see how it goes (probably wise decision for this sort of scheme in Dublin).
However this all misses out the 100% bloody obvious as to what about putting secure bike parking facilities in O'Connell St. area and the city for private bikes...cheaper and easier and applies to a 100X more potential users no?

monument

europhile wrote: »

Will locks be supplied if you're going to leave them elsewhere than at one of the bike stations?

Yes. There's a lock attached to each bike.

maninasia wrote: »

However this all misses out the 100% bloody obvious as to what about putting secure bike parking facilities in O'Connell St. area and the city for private bikes...cheaper and easier and applies to a 100X more potential users no?

Two different aims.

rubadub

kenmc wrote: »

just asking to be vandalized from july onwards

Indeed, what happens when they have all been destroyed, do they still have a contract in place for their cheap advertising scam, or do they actually have to replace the vandalised bikes?

Concerns have been raised that the bicycles will be stolen or abandoned, but in reality they are no more likely to go missing than the renter’s own bike,

Right, so what they are saying is like normal bikes they are VERY likely to be robbed or just kicked in by chip on the shoulder scumbags.

Paris, Vienna and Lyon

Do these places suffer from the same "last round" tanked up scumbags, spurred on by our bizarre pub closing hours which date back to the war. I just cannot picture a gang of Antos kicking the sh*te out of bikes in Vienna cheered on by Jacinta.

I hope it doesn't happen but I can see this being like the end of that simpsons monorail episode with the "escalator to nowhere" etc.

maninasia

monument wrote: »

Yes. There's a lock attached to each bike.



Two different aims.

I thought the aim was to promote cycling in Dublin? Or is it just a scheme to show off to tourists or a clever way to get advertising space?