Air France plane denied rights to over fly USA

derry

http://www.prisonplanet.com/on-the-terrorist-watch-list-don%E2%80%99t-even-try-to-fly-over-the-us-air-france-flight-diverted-because-a-journalist-who-is-critical-of-us-foreign-policy-was-on-board.html


A Air France passenger airliner going France to Mexico normally to overfly the USA was denied the right to overfly the USA.
Reason given a passenger on the plane who work as a french journalist which was frequently critical of the USA was as a result on the USA terrorist watch list.

So is is safe for Aer Lingus to carry the RTE news readers or will they be shot down for saying things like the USA sucks


Go figure what the USA loony regime is up to now

Derry

Cunny-Funt

wow thats actually pretty crazy right there, like something china would do. Jesus the US really is turning for the worst

Foggy43

Any aircraft flying to or over or could possibly divert to the USA has to have sent the full passenger list, names, addresses, passport info to the US authorites. Usually sent on taxi out.
It has happened where late into the flight the US has realised there is, to them, an undesirable on board. In this case the aircraft is escorted to where it is told to go or be shot down.

Problems like this did happen alot but now in the last few years rare. Then the pax was usually off before departure.

Delta Kilo

Now that you mention it I was just talking to someone who is recently back from the states and he told me about a peculiar announcement from the captain. The captain said, just after turning off the seatbelt lights, "Due to the fact that we are in US airspace, I am obliged to say that no more than one passenger may go to the toilet/galley area at a time or pax cannot congregate in the galley area".

He said the way the Captain said it, that the Captain probably thought it was the most ridiculous rule ever as well!

Is security gone mad? Do they still carry an air-marshal on board all flights into the US?

Davidth88

I missed a flight home because of these rules one time.

In a VS 340-600 , which can only use a few gates at LHR because of the length of the aircraft.

We sat off gate for 45 mins while an AC 767 was given clearance to taxi from our stand , the delay ways the US authorities checking everyone's names.


I suppose it's their airspace at the end of the day , so they can say who flies over it.

robinph

Delta Kilo wrote: »

Now that you mention it I was just talking to someone who is recently back from the states and he told me about a peculiar announcement from the captain. The captain said, just after turning off the seatbelt lights, "Due to the fact that we are in US airspace, I am obliged to say that no more than one passenger may go to the toilet/galley area at a time or pax cannot congregate in the galley area".

He said the way the Captain said it, that the Captain probably thought it was the most ridiculous rule ever as well!

Is security gone mad? Do they still carry an air-marshal on board all flights into the US?

They certainly don't say that for internal, or for all international flights in the US.

They do have some daft restrictions though for flights into and out of DC National Airport* though including not being allowed out of your seat within 40 minutes of the airport for either arriving or departing flights, cannot remember if they said the thing about only one person going to the loo at a time or not though on those flights.



* AKA Regan Airport but a lot of people refuse to call it that.

Hogzy

robinph wrote: »

They certainly don't say that for internal, or for all international flights in the US.

I was on 8 internal USA flights last summer and as far as i can remember they said it on every one!

Plane Mad

Originally Posted by Delta Kilo
Now that you mention it I was just talking to someone who is recently back from the states and he told me about a peculiar announcement from the captain. The captain said, just after turning off the seatbelt lights, "Due to the fact that we are in US airspace, I am obliged to say that no more than one passenger may go to the toilet/galley area at a time or pax cannot congregate in the galley area".

He said the way the Captain said it, that the Captain probably thought it was the most ridiculous rule ever as well!


They do say thatt the Captain said it on my flight from dublin to Orlando on tuesday .

Tenger

Delta Kilo wrote: »

He said the way the Captain said it, that the Captain probably thought it was the most ridiculous rule ever as well!

Is security gone mad?

The rule about "congregating at the toilets" is a bit mad. The way I see it, the men who did Sep 11th had a plan and didn't need to confer onboard to carry it out. Its another example of the US introducing a rule to make it look as if they are preventing a repeat occurance. And it means we are aggravating our passengers during the flight.

As the IRA used to say to the British in the 80s- "you have to be lucky all the time, we only have to be lucky once"