Wet Weather Gear

scottreynolds

So Saturday it was lashing with rain and my trusty campagnolo raytech jacket got soaked though and I froze.

When its raining what do people wear to keep dry and warm?

Ghost Rider

I had one of those. In the Scottish highlands, it proved about as waterproof as a book.

scottreynolds wrote: »

So Saturday it was lashing with rain and my trusty campagnolo raytech jacket got soaked though and I froze.

When its raining what do people wear to keep dry and warm?

scottreynolds

Ghost Rider wrote: »

I had one of those. In the Scottish highlands, it proved about as waterproof as a book.

It was strongly recommended to me by someone.

I though about getting this -- http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=12055

Raam

I have a heavier one by Altura. It's pretty good. Got it in the Superstore.

Raam

scottreynolds wrote: »

It was strongly recommended to me by someone.

I though about getting this -- http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=12055

Dude that's a shower jacket. I told ya it would fail in persistant rain. And if I didn't tell ya, well I meant to.

scottreynolds

Raam wrote: »

Dude that's a shower jacket. I told ya it would fail in persistant rain. And if I didn't tell ya, well I meant to.

Can I get my money back. I should have just got to goretex one at 175 euros instead of two inferior ones... ah well...

Do you have the altura link.... the link I posted is the jacket they have in wheelworx.

Raam

scottreynolds wrote: »

Can I get my money back. I should have just got to goretex one at 175 euros instead of two inferior ones... ah well...

Do you have the altura link.... the link I posted is the jacket they have in wheelworx.

You'd probably overheat in one of them this time of year, Gore or Altura.
Can't remember what model I have. It's quite a heavy duty material.

Lumen

scottreynolds wrote: »

It was strongly recommended to me by someone.

I though about getting this -- http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=12055

I have this. It worked well enough through the winter, with a jacket underneath.

It's a bit flappy around the shoulders and arms on the descents, so if I only expect light showers I'll just use a gilet.

I don't tend to get cold though (in the Northern Hemisphere we just HTFU).

he says, aware that you do more mileage in one ride than I do all week

scottreynolds

Raam wrote: »

You'd probably overheat in one of them this time of year, Gore or Altura.
Can't remember what model I have. It's quite a heavy duty material.

Gore-tex XCR one is extremely light weight, breathable, and very waterproof. I guess I'll buy it and see. I'm really not wanting to get as cold as I was on Sunday.

Ghost Rider

Oh - to answer your question, in light-ish rain I use the Montane Featherlight Velo. It's somewhat breathable, very windproof and, what I like about it most, it packs up into a ball about the size of a chimp's fist. But in a real downpour I think it's of limited use at keeping you dry really.

I recently got one of those transparent Descente Wunderview jackets from Pro Bike Kit but I haven't tested it out yet. It reminds me of something you might see at a fetish club but it does look very waterproof. (Mind you, most stuff you might see at a fetish club looks pretty waterproof. I wonder why that is. I've never been to a fetish club, by the way. (Note to self: idea for a future Boards.ie outing?)) Anyway, now that I think about it I imagine the Wunderview is also not very breathable, even though it has substantial venting under the arms.

Ghost Rider wrote: »

I had one of those. In the Scottish highlands, it proved about as waterproof as a book.

Raam

Lumen wrote: »

I have this. It worked well enough through the winter, with a jacket underneath.

It's a bit flappy around the shoulders and arms on the descents, so if I only expect light showers I'll just use a gilet.

I don't tend to get cold though (in the Northern Hemisphere we just HTFU).

HTFU
An Aussie came up with that though :pac:
http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=143169&posts=3

scottreynolds

Lumen wrote: »

I don't tend to get cold though (in the Northern Hemisphere we just HTFU).

Trust me, I'm usually warm as well. Here's how to get cold---get soaked to the bone... through all your layers and then descend Shay Elliot to Laragh in more rain and wind. You;ll be cold... or dead.

scottreynolds

Lumen wrote: »

we just HTFU

Of course you do ... thats why there's a wimp list here.

Lumen

scottreynolds wrote: »

Of course you do ... thats why there's a wimp list here.

Started by a Frenchwoman. Oh, the irony

edit: to keep on topic, what were you wearing on legs and head when you got cold?

scottreynolds

Lumen wrote: »

Started by a Frenchwoman. Oh, the irony

edit: to keep on topic, what were you wearing on legs and head when you got cold?

Legs -- Knee Warmers, Bibshorts, DZNuts
Top - Canterbury Long Sleeve Base Layer, Scott Cycling Top, Campag Jacket
Head - Gore Windstopper Cycling Cap, Helmet.

+ 10kgs of Water.

ROK ON

Scott, the big issue, as I see it, is do you wear wet weather gear (and risk buring up with heat), or wear warm gear that will keep you warm but allow you to breathe.

In wet cold weather I wear my Assos 851 Airblock jacket. But in the spring, I would wear this with a light base layer underneath, rather than layers. I will get wet, but will stay warm without overheating. Windproof panels on the front prevent chill.

In wet warmer weather, wear a gilet. They definitely work, in my limited usage thus far. Keep you core reasonably dry and warm and are breathable.

Also, armwarmers. I have tight fitting armwarmers that I wear - again I will get wet, but will stay warm.

Key for me is in the rain is to keep the head warm and the feet/fingers warm and dry.
Campag full finger gloves with windblock.
Pro overshoes, sealskinz socks.

blorg

I use a combination- Boards jacket with a Montane H2O light layer on top. This is very effective, although the waterproofing on the Montane has worn off, I think I may need to look at doing something about that.

Raam

scottreynolds wrote: »

Legs -- Knee Warmers, Bibshorts, DZNuts
Top - Canterbury Long Sleeve Base Layer, Scott Cycling Top, Campag Jacket
Head - Gore Windstopper Cycling Cap, Helmet.

+ 10kgs of Water.

Ah, I see the problem. You are a big girl's blouse.

scottreynolds

Raam wrote: »

Ah, I see the problem. You are a big girl's blouse.

Don't feel bad Raam -- We both know why I bouhght the jacket.

scottreynolds

blorg wrote: »

I use a combination- Boards jacket with a Montane H2O light layer on top. This is very effective, although the waterproofing on the Montane has worn off, I think I may need to look at doing something about that.

Its a bit warm for me at the moment to wear the long sleeve jackets. Saturday was a good day until it lashed.

TinyExplosions

Like the others, I don't mind getting wet, so long as I'm warm, but I find the Boards Training jacket to be perfect -have been out in torrential rain in it and been kept nice and dry. It is a little bit warm, but not too bad at all!

Am in search of a good gilet atm, but wonder how much I'll use it really... would have been nice to have one on Monday though -that was nasty weather!

scottreynolds

TinyExplosions wrote: »

Like the others, I don't mind getting wet, so long as I'm warm, but I find the Boards Training jacket to be perfect -have been out in torrential rain in it and been kept nice and dry. It is a little bit warm, but not too bad at all!

Am in search of a good gilet atm, but wonder how much I'll use it really... would have been nice to have one on Monday though -that was nasty weather!

I ordered a boards gilet which was actually just a boards sleeveless jacket. -- which is not quite a but its good as a waterproof gilet but its fine.

MB Lacey

TinyExplosions wrote: »

Like the others, I don't mind getting wet, so long as I'm warm, but I find the Boards Training jacket to be perfect -have been out in torrential rain in it and been kept nice and dry. It is a little bit warm, but not too bad at all!

where did you buy it and how much was it?
I'm also looking to buy a new waterproof/breathable jacket (I'm in dublin).

Waterproof is my main concern as I'm cycing 6 miles to work in my work clothes and want them to keep dry.

Signal_ rabbit

I too use the montane featherlite top, good waterproofing for a least a couple of hours. I have tried various Goretex jackets and found them to be crap. The problem is with Goretex is that it is both breathable and waterproof but not at the same time!

bcmf

You have found Gore Tex crap!!!!.A bit astounded by that.And I am saying that as someone who has many Gore jackets.They may be expensive but are expensive for a reason.

TinyExplosions

MB Lacey wrote: »

where did you buy it and how much was it?
I'm also looking to buy a new waterproof/breathable jacket (I'm in dublin).

Waterproof is my main concern as I'm cycing 6 miles to work in my work clothes and want them to keep dry.

They're 50-60 bucks, and only available on here when an order goes into the manufacturer I'm afraid!

alfalad

TinyExplosions wrote: »

They're 50-60 bucks, and only available on here when an order goes into the manufacturer I'm afraid!

But Tiny is finalising a new design in the next while so orders will be taken soon!

bcmf

Just on the point of Gore-Tex.
There are many different ranges in Gore-Tex.ranging from Windstopper to full Rain Proof.
If you have a windstopper dont expect it to keep you dry.Shower proof maybe.
In order for the full rainproof to work properly and keep you dry inside you really have to wear a wicking base layer and maybe just your jersey.It may be hard to keep warm but getting the sweat away from your skin and to the outside is almost as important as stopping the rain getting in.

scottreynolds

bcmf wrote: »

Just on the point of Gore-Tex.
There are many different ranges in Gore-Tex.ranging from Windstopper to full Rain Proof.

Yeah, The breathability is so important. Its so difficult, with any jacket, to keep the balance between waterproof from the outside and sweat from the inside. I think I'll go a get the best gore-tex jacket I can afford and see how it goes. Its not going to be less breathable than any other waterproof jacket.

TinyExplosions

alfalad wrote: »

But Tiny is finalising a new design in the next while so orders will be taken soon!

possibly...

bcmf

Before you do Scott.Figure out what you will be wearing it for.

scottreynolds

bcmf wrote: »

Before you do Scott.Figure out what you will be wearing it for.

Long wet road rides -- starting with 600 miles next week.

All year round weather -- temp is unimportant as I'll vary the base layers.

petethedrummer

I researched a bit on this and finally settled for this Jacket.
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/dhb_Wickham_eVENT_Waterproof_Jacket/5360037016/

It's made from eVent material, which seems to perform just as well as Goretex in waterproof tests and better in breathability tests. So far it's better than my old Altura Jacket, which didn't breath much at all. I know its a tad expensive but my commute is an hour each way and I am very susceptible to colds, so it's worth it if it prevents me from missing work.

There are no pockets or vents on this particular jacket, which is bad as you can't control temp as much but in another way its good, as there are less seams to fail and leak.

Found some reviews of eVent:
http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/news/article/mps/UAN/2001/V/1/SP/
http://www.climbers-shop.com/Waterproofs.aspx
I have better ones saved at home, will post later.

Lumen

petethedrummer wrote: »

Found some reviews of eVent

outdoorsmagic wrote:

High Exertion

We've yet to find a waterproof fabric that's breathable enough to cope with extended high exertion - think mountain biking, running, or frenzied alpine ascents - but eVENT, like New Paclite did better than most. In a cool conditions run it coped for around 25 minutes before being overwhelmed by sweat, a performance which is better than some windproofs we've used. It's not perfect and if you run hot, you will overwhelm it, but it's appreciably better than, say XCR.

Therein lies the problem for extended riding.

petethedrummer

Lumen wrote: »

Therein lies the problem for extended riding.

This the case for any waterproof material and in other reviews it performed the best of all the materials tested. I'll dig out those reviews when I get home.

biker_joe

main problem at this time of year is what to bleeding wear ! temp going between 6 - 16 degress and heavy showers with sunny intervals !!!

main thing keep a check on the weather !! I am a firefox kid and this is an
invailueable little tool to add to your browser !

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1035

So you can know what to wear before going to work ! coming home from work ! going traiing at the weekend !

Bleedin DEADLY I say !

PS I don't work for Firefox !

jautukas87

I like this one

Hourly is pretty accurate