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Mastermind group - members wanted South Dublin

  • 28-04-2009 5:05pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 10


    hi,

    I am looking to start up a mastermind group in the South Dublin area meeting on a monthly basis. Potential members muct be committed, have a good attitude and be of high integrity. Numbers will be limited to a select few, so please feel free to post a reply if you are interested or have any questions.

    Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    Jag75 wrote: »
    hi,

    I am looking to start up a mastermind group in the South Dublin area meeting on a monthly basis. Potential members muct be committed, have a good attitude and be of high integrity. Numbers will be limited to a select few, so please feel free to post a reply if you are interested or have any questions.

    Thanks.

    Is this another spin on the small groups comprising the usual 1-off members and passing referrals around?

    If not any chance you can explain what makes a mastermind group different and how will it function?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Jag75 wrote: »
    hi,

    I am looking to start up a mastermind group in the South Dublin area meeting on a monthly basis. Potential members muct be committed, have a good attitude and be of high integrity. Numbers will be limited to a select few, so please feel free to post a reply if you are interested or have any questions.

    Thanks.

    As the organiser of the group, what is your background and skills etc that say give you the ability call yourself mastermind?. If you dont want to post your life story just drop me a pm :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 225 ✭✭fmcc


    el rifle.
    The whole idea is that you dont have all of these skills no one is really a mastermind as we all have different experinaces. the idea behind the group is you meet up to get ideas or soloutions from other people. Like a mentoring group rather than a networking group.
    it can be as easy as having someone to bitch to as having the same problems as you but you may/will get some advice or soloutions to their problem.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    fmcc wrote: »
    el rifle.
    The whole idea is that you dont have all of these skills no one is really a mastermind as we all have different experinaces. the idea behind the group is you meet up to get ideas or soloutions from other people. Like a mentoring group rather than a networking group.
    it can be as easy as having someone to bitch to as having the same problems as you but you may/will get some advice or soloutions to their problem.

    Yeah I know what you mean. The quality of the people in the group is the key though, thats what Im getting at. So for example if Jag75 has a successful company or companies and has a lot of business experience then he would be a worthwhile person to bounce ideas off. If he was inexperienced and hasn't got a good track record then it wouldnt really be much of a mastermind group


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 225 ✭✭fmcc


    I agree experiance can count but so can fresh eyes looking at a problem with out any preconceptions.
    Kudos tothe op to try and start one the initiative is there and that counts for a lot imho. It may take several attempts to get a group that gels well together.

    But imho the op should work only at organising it and not give it to much structure at the start. Organise a place and a time but let conversation do the rest and don't try to run it.


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  • Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm with you FMCC, fair dues to the OP for trying to do something about it, he doesn't need to an expert to do this and besides too many people call themselves an expert these days anyway.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    he doesn't need to an expert to do this and besides too many people call themselves an expert these days anyway.

    Have you ever seen the competition mastermind? Contestants on the show competing for the title of mastermind who were experts in a particular field and on general knowledge. I dont see the logic in setting up a group of "masterminds" if they are not experts. Surely you would call it something like a brainstorming group....

    FMCC, a fresh approach is always good, but a fresh approach can be from someone giving input into say manufacturing who has an IT background as opposed to similar people from manufacturing giving a perhaps "stale" approach- but experience lets you see the pitfalls of an idea because you have seen the reasons it wont work. This is why companies look for experienced people when they are hiring so they dont make rookie mistakes
    An original approach is a different thing, someone without experience might come up with something original that hasnt been done before. But a mastermind group of people who dont have experience, thats a contradiction in terms is it not?


  • Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Admittingly I haven't ever seen the show Mastermind but I am just praising the idea of it and the fact the OP wants to do something that could help people, as long as the required members can contribute and help one another in some form, I don't see that as a bad thing in an era where it's ALL doom and gloom.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Jag75


    Thanks for your comments and questions. I will do my best to explain my take on the term “mastermind group” and what I would like to get out of this process. To explain, for those of you who don’t know, the term mastermind group is not mine, it comes originally from the book “Think and Grow Rich”, and is mentioned in numerous other self help books as a way of increasing your chances of achieving goals. If anyone would like and reference to books to do their own background reading on the term, please let me know.

    About myself, I don’t have my own business, nor am I looking to find people to get into business with. In saying that, I am well educated and have a good job (although any job these days is a good job!) The purpose of the mastermind group is to find people similar to myself who may have goals, dreams etc that through procrastination, fear, life etc have settled for the easy option up to now, but have are looking to start afresh and are serious about doing something to improve their current situation but may not know where to start. You could also be making progress in your life, but would like the support of like minded people to help/support/encourage you along your way. I personally don’t care if you are making €1m per year or are unemployed, as long as you have a good positive attitude, want to make improvements in your current situation, and are genuinely committed to this. In this day and age, we could all do with a bit of a helping hand or support in my opinion.

    At the end of the day, I’m not looking to change to world, but if we can improve the individual group members lives in some small way even, then how bad...
    As always, all comments, questions etc welcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    Sounds like a hug group to me!


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  • Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    On second thought, Yeah it does really sound like a hand holding session.

    If you're not an expert OP, you will need some there otherwise it's just a friendship ring or something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    I understand where the OP is coming from. It seems more like a support structure then anything.
    What I have gathered from Hammertime's well thread thus far is that he has a very strong support structure, his family, his accountant and various other professionals that he visits when he feels he needs to.

    I and i'm sure others among us, do not have brothers/sisters/fathers/mothers who we can bounce ideas off and get good feedback, or who can tell us when we are slipping up with regards to are business, when we are taking our foot of the peddle. Basically someone to kick us up the arse when neccessary.

    I reckon something like this 'mastermind group' could fill that void if it grows into a strong group full of reputable people who trust one another. I think trust and openess could be the key to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Jag75


    i'm not into group hugs or holding hands, that's for people who feel sorry for themselves and want other people to tell them that its not their fault. i'm looking for people who want to make improvements in their lives, and could do with a bit of support from other like minded people. no matter what you do in life, its easier when you have support as opposed to doing it alone...

    shoutman, thanks for fixing my last post, i copied it in from a word doc.

    since i am new to the boards website, can someone tell me what an OP is?

    once again, thanks for the comments and have a great weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    OP = Original Poster,

    there is not too much lingo on this site, so not too much to get used to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    Jag75 wrote: »
    i'm not into group hugs or holding hands, that's for people who feel sorry for themselves and want other people to tell them that its not their fault. i'm looking for people who want to make improvements in their lives, and could do with a bit of support from other like minded people. no matter what you do in life, its easier when you have support as opposed to doing it alone...

    shoutman, thanks for fixing my last post, i copied it in from a word doc.

    since i am new to the boards website, can someone tell me what an OP is?

    once again, thanks for the comments and have a great weekend.

    What are you expecting in the business/enterprise forum, yes if you posted in the 'Self help' or 'Make me feel better' forums, you could probably expect a more holistic response. Seems to me the group aspirations are more aligned with the Samaratins than SuperQuinn!! That is not a criticism, I'm just wondering where to find the business or enterprise culture, self help, positive thinking might be present, hence my earlier reference to 'group hug' sessions!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 225 ✭✭fmcc


    Sonnem again this is my opinion and heres why i set up my own one. I am not a complete loner (honestly I have some friends) but most are employees great guys but do not know the stress of wondering how your gonna make payroll next week. A mastermind group for me was an area where I could get ideas and share problems as my social circle were not employers and would not be able to empathise fully.
    I see this with many people as you look at things differently. One bitches about their boss and in my mind I am biting my tongue saying you have no idea, therefore mastermind group is beneficial to me. We have only had three/four meetings but no hand holding or hugs yet.
    The group may become more with closer working together or partnership deals but it does not seem likely at present.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Jag75


    the reason i put my post into this area of boards is because i done a google search on mastermind groups and this is where is brought me. i am happy to transfer my post to a self help or whatever section is recommended. as i wrote earlier, i'm new on this website, so all advice/help welcome.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Hi,
    Sorry if its a little off topic but I am on a committee organising an open forum on May 21st in the Burlington Hotel for people to come together to discuss and exchange new concepts and ideas to help move the country forward!!!

    Please see below link

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055564731

    I hope it can be of help to you

    regards

    CP

    Was there a need for you to completely spam the forum with this posting it in every thread!!? :rolleyes::confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭gypsy777


    I dont think the thread needs moving.
    There is obviously no clear definition on what a 'mastermind group' is and I certainly dont think it should be taken literally in as far as mastermind contestants should be the members.
    I cant see it being a hand holding or group hugging exercise...I mean if I was to become involved I would see it as an opportunity to brainstorm and share experiences.
    With regards to confidentiality perhaps a contract would be worthwhile to ensure people dont poach on each other.
    It could well be an opportunity to develop ideas and pursue joint ventures or whatever.
    Fair play to those that get involved...know is the time to take action or for innovation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 482 ✭✭Spinnaker


    Jag

    Good initiative and will be valuable to the committed but what will they be committing to?

    Could degrade into gentile coffee mornings unless you make an initial stab at:
    - target audience ? highnetworths / professionals / redundant
    - two or three starting objectives i.e. why turn up ? payoff?

    Objectives will evolve of course but that will be a positive thing.

    Consider inviting an experienced facilitator or one who wants more (lots of recent life and business coaches on linkedin)

    So... good start, "fair play" take better aim now and you'll hit your target.

    PM sent by the way :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 225 ✭✭fmcc


    Jag again my 2 cents. You select the group, no written contract on confidentiality either you trust these people, will learn to trust them or else don't have them in the group. Selecting the members y thinking who ideally you would want in the group. then call and ask them directly some will respond and some wont.

    Spinaker imho have no facilatator especially no professional they will just try to run it and i have a major problem with so many business coaches that never had a business before they set up their business coaching business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Jag75


    thanks for all the comments/PMs. i currently have 2 people interested and am looking for 2 more. if you are interested and would like to find out more, please send me a PM.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 LGM


    Gentlemen, my apologies I am coming to this one late, however- my comments.

    Jag75- I commend you for your initiative. This country needs more like you. Do not be discouraged by the "on the fence" replies by others, by negative reaction from those who would, in typical Irish fashion, like to stamp on those who wish to better themselves.
    I have a similar mind set as you. Isn’t it incredible the number of responses you received by those who doubt your motivation and direction?
    This country is full of those who fear success and spite those who crave it. My guess is that you will become very successful and those who throw cold water on your ideas will still be here in 5 years time and beyond and continue to tell others "you can't do that!"

    The best of luck with your endeavour, I hope it works out for you.

    (Google Jack Canfield)

    LGM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭Fergal C


    Jag75, I really hope you get your group together. I'd be interested in joining except I'm not in your geographic area. I've actually recently been considering setting up an online mastermind group on my business forum website. It would be a private area that would only be accessible by members of the group.

    You might find the http://www.plato.ie/ website helpful and it could be worth contacting the Plato group closes to you. It's a different concept but http://www.toastmasters.org/ might be something worth looking at.
    ...If he was inexperienced and hasn't got a good track record then it wouldnt really be much of a mastermind group

    The concept behind a mastermind group is that people with similar interests and experiences help each other out and share advice - this site explains it quite well. Obviously it would be great to get the advice and support of an experienced expert, but people who have similar aims & objectives and who are at a similar level with regards to achievements and experience, can also be very supportive to each other.


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