remapping audi 2ltr tdi

garyt43

Was thinking about getting the ecu remapped. Just wondering has many here got it done (not necessarily an audi). How much bhp could it add and is there any benifits to getting it done.......apart from the power:):)

Know it can cost from around 300-350 or if ya have mates that want it done you can get a discount.....

Would love to hear your views good or bad......

Cheers

kindalen

up to 30%, have been in some cars with very lumpy power delivery. you get what you pay for in general.
have heard that the 2.0 tdi audi needs oil now and again? something to keep an eye on?

L-M

I read some where that 140's can be brought up to around the 200 mark.

Apparently a remap can give more MPG. I haven't got one myself, so I'll leave that to the lads who have.

homer90

http://www.chippedire.com/vms_view.php?man_id=2&mod_id=15&var_id=89

Also Have a look on :
http://vagdrivers.net/forums/index.php

Discounts for members (I think ??)

LM may throw some light on this ?

garyt43

No worries lads. cheers. I admit i only have the car a few months but havent really had any probs with oil. Only use synthetic and it seems to be doin ok. Power delivery seems to be fine just wouldn mind gettin her tweaked a small bit....heard it boosts mph and im gettin a gud return on that already (48-55)

A mate of mine got it done to a transit that he uses for work. He got her chipped to 175 bhp and ya should c it go on a straight but my god cornering has alot to be desired......Needless to say the underpants had to be changed after:):) He had to fit a spoiler to keep her down at the bk.....crazy i know

anyways cheers

Sqaull20

I got it done with autotune.ie, they come to you and charge 375e, but if you get a mate to have one done as well you can get it much cheaper.Done it a month ago now and it really makes a difference.I havent tested it for exact power yet, but fella that done it ( Lance ) says it should be pulling 170bhp now up from 130bhp and 380nm torque up from 310nm.My Fabia pulled very well before the remap, now its like a train even in 6th.

You notice the difference straight away when you take it for a test run, the extra power in my Fabia is very noticable when it goes over 2.5k rpm, before that its pretty much the same but 3rd and 4th at 3k rpm is pretty rapid, speedometer just flies up.

http://www.auto-tune.ie/

homer90

garyt43 wrote: »

A mate of mine got it done to a transit that he uses for work. He got her chipped to 175 bhp and ya should c it go on a straight but my god cornering has alot to be desired......Needless to say the underpants had to be changed after:):) He had to fit a spoiler to keep her down at the bk.....crazy i know

He should see if could stick it to the roof on the port tunnel

garyt43

some nice links there...appreciate it fellas....

175bhp could do the trick alright:):)

Its all looking pretty positive but is there any downside such as insurance etc or resale probs

Gumbo

garyt43 wrote: »

some nice links there...appreciate it fellas....

175bhp could do the trick alright:):)

Its all looking pretty positive but is there any downside such as insurance etc or resale probs

these guys come very highly recommended : http://www.autoremap.com/index.php

they charge 350 per car, but im trying to round up 3 or more people to try get a discount!


bmw-drivers.net use these guys and recommend them 100%.

Gumbo

theres 4 people already intrested : http://www.bmw-driver.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8455

so let me know if anybody wants to jump in.

Matt Simis

garyt43 wrote: »

some nice links there...appreciate it fellas....

175bhp could do the trick alright:):)

Its all looking pretty positive but is there any downside such as insurance etc or resale probs

You are meant to declare it to insurance obviously, which in turn means higher premiums and some companies outright will not insure "modified cars".

Some remaps merely change the gearing for smoothness as opposed big HP gains. Any remap thats "lumpy" has not being done correctly and should be promptly returned to the remapper to get another map. Every good remap Ive had or been in returns virtually the same economy with much smoother pedal and gear change response.

The only cars I would be dubious about remaps on are NA cars, without a turbo the potential gains via timing adjustments are tiny, however if power delivery smoothness can be noticably improved, thats different.
Diesels that are remapped always smoke more as they are injecting more fuel (which when unburnt is black smoke). Adding Dipetane to the tank regularly wouldnt go amiss. I havent heard of remapping causing NCT fails on any "normal" map on a regular car.

Biro

Insurance is the big one. I'd say not many people declare their modification, and that means you're uninsured. However, insurance companies don't bother checking these things for minor tips, but you can be sure that because of recent increase in claims from people trying to get money for a car they can't sell that insurance companies will be trying new ways to avoid payouts.
Chipping is becoming very common, and insurance companies will start looking out for it.
Has anyone on this site informed their insurance companies that they chipped their car? If so, how much did the insurance go up?
That question has been asked before to no response...

Matt Simis

Biro wrote: »

Has anyone on this site informed their insurance companies that they chipped their car? If so, how much did the insurance go up?
That question has been asked before to no response...

Couple of years ago on my S4, XS Direct wanted an extra EUR300 (onto of EUR1400 plus 4k excess) when I informed them it went from 265 to 440BHP. Not too bad for a huge increase (not just "chipping", but new turbos, manifolds and custom tuned map etc).

These days they do offer lower excess higher premium coverage and lower slightly lower quotes in general. Ive read on other Irish forums several companies do quote on modified motors, while others wont quote at all, even if minor OEM Plus or Uprating (bigger brakes or exhaust for instance) work has been carried out.


There is a big difference between "chipping" and "remapping" however. Remapping slightly alters the standard ECU map through the cars diagnostic port. The modification is fairly minor compared to big BHP work and afaik, very difficult to impossible to check and confirm on most cars.

Chipping is pre-OBDII terminology and involves physically removing the ECU chip, changing the code and re-soldering it, leaving a physical trail of evidence (unless entire ECU boards are replaced).

Gumbo

What is remapping?
Remapping is overwriting original software contained inside a cars ECU (Engine Control Unit) with tuned software. This software is referred to as the engine map because it is this program that controls the engine. Before the advent of serial port remapping the only way to overwrite this software was to replace the chip that contained the software. Now this can all be done by plugging in to the vehicles serial port and overwrite the engine map with the performance version. Remapping is not a gimmick it is a performance conversion that will seriously improve the power & drivability of your engine.

taking from a mappers website

Henry Ford III

Matt Simis wrote: »

....Some remaps merely change the gearing for smoothness as opposed big HP gains.

No remap can alter the gearing Matt.

BlackWizard

homer90 wrote: »

http://www.chippedire.com/vms_view.php?man_id=2&mod_id=15&var_id=89

Also Have a look on :
http://vagdrivers.net/forums/index.php

Discounts for members (I think ??)

LM may throw some light on this ?

That's the crowd I went with too. A guy called Joe does them and has a good reputation.

Diesels that are remapped always smoke more as they are injecting more fuel (which when unburnt is black smoke). Adding Dipetane to the tank regularly wouldnt go amiss. I havent heard of remapping causing NCT fails on any "normal" map on a regular car.

I'm not sure if mine smokes more. But there is noticable smoke when I start it in the morning but it's only lasts for a second and can only be seen if I get someone else to start it. Then sometimes when I put the foot down a bit of smoke shoots out but that depends how I was driving before that. Im an eco-nut sometimes when driving so the car will go days without being revved above 2k rpm! Usualy then I'll get some smoke when I put the foot down.

Mines passed its NCT with the remap done on it.

L-M

homer90 wrote: »

http://www.chippedire.com/vms_view.php?man_id=2&mod_id=15&var_id=89

Also Have a look on :
http://vagdrivers.net/forums/index.php

Discounts for members (I think ??)

LM may throw some light on this ?

I'm not too sure, haven't got anything remapped from them.

Neilw

Limerick man wrote: »

I'm not too sure, haven't got anything remapped from them.

Joe is very good, plenty of very satisfied customers. He does custom mapping too

L-M

Neilw wrote: »

Joe is very good, plenty of very satisfied customers. He does custom mapping too

I've heard he was very very good alright, just wasn't sure on the alleged vagdrivers discount.

Matt Simis

Henry Ford III wrote: »

No remap can alter the gearing Matt.

"Gearing", for lack of a better all inclusive word, was just me being lazy. I mean they can and do change how an Auto box selects, holds, drops and raises gear. This is Upsolute's core business.
Tiptronic boxes are controlled via TCUs, which can be mapped directly or "indirectly" via in gear torque delivery changes (which the Tip box use as "markers" in the gearing algorithm) in the main map.

Gear ratios and things of a mechanical nature of course not, but when and how smooth (the power delivery) an auto box works can definitely be altered and improved. Our Allroad used to physically lunge from a standstill in 1st with the stock map (as its got extremely aggressive gearing for offroad, towing etc). I had it remapped (4 times to get it right..) and the gear changes are silky smooth now.

On top of "proper" mapping, anyone with a VagCom (aka VCDS) you can easily alter most VAGs Auto box workings by alternating between Dynamic Learning, Comfort modes and a permanent "sports" mode, which holds gears longer and is less 5th gear happy.

BlackWizard wrote: »

I'm not sure if mine smokes more. But there is noticable smoke when I start it in the morning but it's only lasts for a second and can only be seen if I get someone else to start it. Then sometimes when I put the foot down a bit of smoke shoots out but that depends how I was driving before that. Im an eco-nut sometimes when driving so the car will go days without being revved above 2k rpm! Usualy then I'll get some smoke when I put the foot down.

That all sounds normal, you only get smoke if you are pushing it, with the ability to "push" harder you get more smoke. Its not going to matter for the likes of the NCT.