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Are Passports needed to travel to Britian ?

  • 26-04-2009 12:03PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭


    Do Irish people need a passport to travel to Britain by ferry ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Victor McDade


    No, just some form of ID, like driving licence.

    I've been over a few times and never been asked for any ID, but I wouldn't advise going without anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Richard


    Belfast wrote: »
    Do Irish people need a passport to travel to Britain by ferry ?

    No, but the ferry company may ask for ID such as a driving licence - ask them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭Belfast


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jan/15/uk-irish-republic-border-passports
    "UK-Irish travellers to face passport checks

    * Alan Travis, home affairs editor
    * guardian.co.uk, Thursday 15 January 2009 17.24 GMT

    Tighter border controls on air and sea routes to end 80 years' free movement
    Fifteen million a people a year who travel by air or sea between Britain and the Irish Republic will face formal passport checks for the first time in more than 80 years, under immigration legislation published today .

    But no compulsory passport checks are to be imposed on the 224-mile land border between the republic and Northern Ireland, although ad hoc "intelligence-led" immigration checks will be carried out by mobile teams of Border Agency staff.

    Ministers say the proposal in the citizenship and immigration bill will "plug a critical gap" in Britain's border security as they introduce the multibillion pound "electronic border" over the next five years. The programme will enable travellers to be checked against watch lists before they get on the plane or ferry.

    The legislation will bring to an end the common travel area between the republic and Britain, which dates back to the creation of the Irish Free State in 1922. Apart from limited attempts to control the land border during and after the second world war the common travel area has been a free movement zone for more than 80 years.

    A Home Office impact assessment published alongside the bill acknowledged the possibility of large queues building up as a result of the introduction of the passport checks, particularly at Welsh ferry ports for those coming from Ireland. Officials hope to minimise such delays.

    At the same time as the legislation was published in London yesterday, the Irish government announced that it will introduce its own new border control system from next year. The Irish justice minister, Dermot Ahern, said the Irish border information system would also screen for illegal migrants by checking travel data collected by airlines and ferry companies before departure and checking it against watch lists.

    A British proposal to introduce passport checks for those who fly from Belfast to the rest of the UK was dropped after strong opposition from Conservatives and Ulster Unionists. The imposition of border controls will however also apply to those who travel between Britain and the Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey.

    The citizenship and immigration bill introduces radical reforms to British citizenship, including the introduction of a requirement for migrants to speak English and obey the law if they want to get a British passport."

    It does not say when it come in to force.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    British and Irish citizens do not need any form of ID to travel between the two countries. You may need certain forms of ID depending on who you are crossing the border with and their own requirements though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭Belfast


    Looks like the new rules have not come in yet.

    Ireland/Britain Routes

    Irish Ferries recommend all passengers bring a passport with them. Irish and British citizens do not strictly require a passport to travel between the two countries - some form of identification is however required.

    Photo ID, Bank Cards or bills for house utilities addressed to you are all acceptable and useful means of identification.

    Please note that all nationalities except Irish or British require passports. Non-EU nationals should check with the British or Irish embassy before travelling as they may also need a visa. Passengers who turn up at our ports without valid documentation may not be allowed to enter either Ireland or Britain.
    http://www2.irishferries.com/system/webtest/view/selfservice/controller.jsp?CONFIGURATION=1008&PARTITION_ID=1&CMD=STARTPAGE&USERTYPE=1&ARTICLEID=1446


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Yep, you don't require any form of ID at all ... but, it might be an idea to have some form of ID on you so that you can prove that you do not need any. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    robinph wrote: »
    Yep, you don't require any form of ID at all ... but, it might be an idea to have some form of ID on you so that you can prove that you do not need any. :confused:

    i lost my passport. my dirvers licence is out of dat about 4months. im flying with ryanair on firday to bournmouth and back on sunday. am i screwed? ive no criminal record or shoudlnt be on the watchlist for any reason.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    You DO need ID of some description to get on a Ryanair plane, details on their website.

    But basically if your doing online checkin you need your passport, if getting checked in at the airport then a valid driving license may do instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭lynchie


    i lost my passport. my dirvers licence is out of dat about 4months. im flying with ryanair on firday to bournmouth and back on sunday. am i screwed? ive no criminal record or shoudlnt be on the watchlist for any reason.

    Yup.. ur screwed.. unless you go and get ur driver's licence renewed asap. You should be able to get it done in 24 hours if you go in person and plead your case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    shize! im workin mon-fri 9-5... ha damN!! but will they definitly 100% ask for ID? and if they do they wont accept an out of date drivers licence under any circumstances?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,790 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    robinph wrote: »
    British and Irish citizens do not need any form of ID to travel between the two countries. You may need certain forms of ID depending on who you are crossing the border with and their own requirements though.

    The catch is though that you need something to prove you're an Irish or British citizen...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    wat about a birth cert and out of date drivers licence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭MaxFlower


    What about children. I been told that Under 18's do not need any form of ID. Their parents do.
    I find this difficult to believe in this day and age what with trafficing and all. Would you need a birth cert/passport (if you had one) or more importantly, could you be asked to produce.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Dodge wrote: »
    The catch is though that you need something to prove you're an Irish or British citizen...

    True, I think I'd be able to convince the immigration guys at either UK or Irish airports of my rights to enter without any ID on my person though, the tricky bit is convincing the airlines. I have a friend who has done that with a call to the copper in the UK airport who then looked their name up in the local phone book before. The copper then faxed KLM to confirm that they would be let into the country, and that KLM would not get fined for transporting the person, and so they then traveled back from Holland without any ID/ passport.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    wat about a birth cert and out of date drivers licence?

    Nope. The photo ID needs to be in date.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    MaxFlower wrote: »
    What about children. I been told that Under 18's do not need any form of ID. Their parents do.
    I find this difficult to believe in this day and age what with trafficing and all. Would you need a birth cert/passport (if you had one) or more importantly, could you be asked to produce.

    Birth cert is of no use to you for travel at all, other than using it to get your passport.
    Ryanair wrote:
    Children under 16 years (including infants) travelling with an adult are required to have photo-ID when travelling on flights between EEA countries. Acceptable photo-ID for children under 16 is either a valid passport or a valid National Identity Card issued by an EEA country. Children must always be travelling with the adult named on a visa vignette, if visa is applicable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭lynchie


    shize! im workin mon-fri 9-5... ha damN!! but will they definitly 100% ask for ID? and if they do they wont accept an out of date drivers licence under any circumstances?

    Ryanair will ask for your ID and require it to be both valid and in date 1000000000000000% of the time.. So not a chance without it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    lynchie wrote: »
    Ryanair will ask for your ID and require it to be both valid and in date 1000000000000000% of the time.. So not a chance without it

    well ive no option now. im going to take a chance, hopefully get a lazy person working cause its 6in the morning. im going to go and try with my out of date drivers licence. do you want me to tell you how i get on?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    do you want me to tell you how i get on?

    You won't.


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    i lost my passport. my dirvers licence is out of dat about 4months. im flying with ryanair on firday to bournmouth and back on sunday. am i screwed? ive no criminal record or shoudlnt be on the watchlist for any reason.

    haha! my husband is probably going on that stag you'd better behave yourself ;)

    yes, you are screwed, if you're checking in online you need a passport. If you are checking in at the desk you need a valid form of photo id.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 settergirl


    Myself and my 3yr old son travel regularly through the ferry ports backwards and forwards to wales (as thats where im from,but live in Ireland) and have NEVER been asked for ID be it passport or drivers licence and my son has a different surname to me and i have never been asked for Identification for him either.

    However, I always take my passport, drivers licence and my sons birth cert with me just in case i am ever asked for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    robinph wrote: »
    You won't.
    its worth a try! do u work for ryanair?
    haha! my husband is probably going on that stag you'd better behave yourself ;)

    yes, you are screwed, if you're checking in online you need a passport. If you are checking in at the desk you need a valid form of photo id.

    bournmouth friday yea? crazy!! well i wont be able to behave myself if i dont get over there haha!!

    ah i figure its early in the morning the girl at the desk might be sleepy and just pass me on through. these thigns havea a habit of always workign out!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭mickoneill30


    robinph wrote: »
    Nope. The photo ID needs to be in date.

    That reminds me of a comedian (I think) travelling in the US. All he had was his out of date drivers license. When the girl at the counter said it was out of date he replied that he didn't want to drive the plane :D


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bournmouth friday yea? crazy!! well i wont be able to behave myself if i dont get over there haha!!

    yep, it's a two in one stag, I assume there aren't many stags going to Bournemouth on Friday from Dublin but hey I could be wrong!!!

    Wouldn't fancy being you on the flight back Sunday though.

    It is definitely worth a try if you have no other options but you are able to go to the tax office with your expired license and proof of travel and they will issue you with a new license within 24hours. Or you could get an emergency passport. Or you could stay in the airport drinking on your tod til sunday!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    You have plenty of time to get a passport sorted before Friday, although you have lost a day today wondering if your out of date driving license would do instead. You will have at least 2 people to try and get past with your invalid ID in each direction, and the people in Bournmouth are probably not actual Ryanair employees, they will be ServiceAir I expect and are very picky on anything they can find for extracting extra charges from passengers in my experience so unlikely you'd be able to get and out of date license past them 4 times.

    If the cops are out on arrival then you'll not have a problem getting past them, but anyone to do with the airline itself is much more likely to notice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    yep, it's a two in one stag, I assume there aren't many stags going to Bournemouth on Friday from Dublin but hey I could be wrong!!!

    Wouldn't fancy being you on the flight back Sunday though.

    It is definitely worth a try if you have no other options but you are able to go to the tax office with your expired license and proof of travel and they will issue you with a new license within 24hours. Or you could get an emergency passport. Or you could stay in the airport drinking on your tod til sunday!

    yea thats the one! yea bournemouth?! never even heard of the place!

    well im gonna take off thursday head out to the passport office and demand one!! tell them to put cheung lee murphy and umbaga o'connor at the bottom and ill slip them a fiver ;-) ah no just kiddin thats bold! ha!

    my mates's friends brother(if that makes sense) apprantly went to the office in the mornign and showed them the travel plans and they gave him a passport that day he had to wait about 5hours apparantly. so thats my hope!

    If not im still gonna go in with the out of date one. hey i figure im still the same person as i was then!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭flikflak


    well ive no option now. im going to take a chance, hopefully get a lazy person working cause its 6in the morning. im going to go and try with my out of date drivers licence. do you want me to tell you how i get on?

    There is no point in going - you wont get on. You need in date photo ID simple as.

    Be it 6am or 6pm they wont let you on without it. Go and get a passport tomorrow or forget the trip. Just saw you are going to get one - good stuff at least you wont miss the trip now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    flikflak wrote: »
    There is no point in going - you wont get on. You need in date photo ID simple as.

    Be it 6am or 6pm they wont let you on without it. Go and get a passport tomorrow or forget the trip. Just saw you are going to get one - good stuff at least you wont miss the trip now.

    Ha well your WRONG! I ve been speaking to laods of people regarding thsi obviously! and alst year my cousin and his friend went to glasgow. my cousins friend had an out of date drivers licence, the girl ath teh dsek briefly looked at it and sent them on their merry way onto the plane! So flikflak I do think the chances are ever so slightly increasing.....

    Although on the way back from glasgow to dublin they checked his Id properly and wouldnt let him on the flight. He had to get the bus to stranrar?? and a baot to belfast and then train back down so the chacneas of coming home are looking slim now lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭flikflak


    Well if you are willing to take the chance then you go for it. Personally going on the evidence of one Ryanair employee not looking hard enough at his ID I dont think I would chance it. Maybe that one Ryanair employee with bad eyesight no longer works for the company

    Plus by letting him travel in the first place they actually ended up making him pay more and enduring more hassle to get home.

    Just go and get your passport. Job done and no more what if`s and putting faith in year old stories of a friend of a friend to travel.


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  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you had gone and gotten your passport yesterday it would have cost you €75 but if you need it within 3 days they charge an extra €50! so €125 for the passport and the flights only cost €60! personally I'd go for the drivers license option, it's only €25 isn't it?

    If you get stuck in Bournemouth Ryanair are the only ones who fly out of there to Dublin so would be a bit of a nightmare.


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