Anyone going to the Legalise cannabis march on May 9th?

cheeseandonion

Hey all,
I just read this on another site www.cannabisireland.net and I am defiantly thinking about going. Anyone else heading out?

Legalise Cannabis March and Rally 2009 - Dublin and Cork

Assemble: 1.30 pm May 9th
Dublin - Garden of Rememberance, Parnell Square
Cork - Bishop Lucy Park, Grand Parade

Spread the good word,!.

Education is Key! Contact us about anything to do with cannabis

Legalise Cannabis! -Cannabis users are NOT criminals!

Join us in the fight to legalise the world's most popular illegal plant.

Legalise Cannabis March and Rally 2009 - Dublin and Cork

Assemble: 1.30 pm

Dublin - Garden of Remembrance, Parnell Square

Cork - Bishop Lucy Park, Grand Parade

A little history -

Legalise Cannabis Ireland was founded almost two and a half years ago following several years of sporadic attempts at highlighting the fallacy that is the prohibition of cannabis. Prior to this, virtually the only public cannabis actions were J-Days - annual mass smoke-ups in a park. A few had taken place in Dublin but following an initial flourish, attendances dwindled. Only a small crowd assembled in 2006 at the aptly named Marlay Park. This gathering was interrupted by a nasty bunch of Gardai who proceeded to demand all kinds of silly information from the innocent afternoon tokers, some of whom were arrested.

Following from this it was felt that a more coherent strategy was necessary in order to bring the issue into the public domain and to stimulate meaningful debate. Many of those involved felt that having a tokenistic (!) smoke-up in the park once a year just wasn’t going to alter in any meaningful way the current situation in relation to cannabis or the many problems that prohibition is causing Irish cannabis enthusiasts.

With that in mind, the decision was taken to organise the first ever Anti-Prohibition march on these shores, to be held the 6th of May 2007, the same weekend as the Worldwide Marijuana March across the rest of the globe. With that, the wheels began to turn on the wagon of a new movement, eventually to be christened Legalise Cannabis Ireland. An interesting mix of people came together to take on the donkey-work of getting a campaign up and running A healthy concoction of experience, nationality and gender proved productive as the ideas began to flow. With the help of supportive Head/Hemp/Grow Stores, the campaign produced a number of well-designed, informative and accessible leaflets on topics such as medicinal use, the problems caused by prohibition, and the scourge of contaminated cannabis - a problem of particularly great magnitude in Ireland.

More info on our policies at www.legalisecannabis.ie
www.myspace.com/legalisecannabisireland and
www.bebo.com/legalisecannabiseire

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The Irish government estimates that there are 300,000 cannabis smokers in this country, around 10% of the adult population..
The government spends around €200 million every year to prosecute less than 1% of those smokers and intercept less than 10% of the incoming narcotics.

If the war against cannabis users were to be won, it would require an annual spend of over €24 billion - more than the entire annual tax take.
Simply removing cannabis from the law enforcement priorities of the state would produce massive savings. The Justice Department would save €109 million per year: the savings for the Gardai alone would be €58.8 million every year.
Besides saving money, ending the unjust war on cannabis would free up resources and manpower to fight serious crime.

If the government decided to regulate cannabis sales, this could be expected to bring in over €200 million in VAT on Irish cannabis sales alone.
Regulation of the cannabis industry would result in the creation of hundreds of jobs. It would generate an estimated €243.8 million per year in employer taxes, and a further €26.3 million in PAYE taxes.

The Netherlands generates an estimated €360 million per year from tourists visiting their cannabis vending coffeeshops; Ireland could expect to generate up to 80% of this revenue from tourism.
Widespread cannabis contamination and lack of quality control regulation is costing young people their respiratory health and creating an unknown future burden on the health services. Cannabis smokers are consuming plastic, glass, lead, diesel and various other dangerous additives designed to increase weight and market value.
Cannabis legalisation would deprive violent criminals their share of the illicit market and would net the Irish state a total of over €879 million per year.

Join us in the fight to legalise the world's most popular illegal plant.

Legalise Cannabis March and Rally 2009 - Dublin and Cork

Assemble: 1.30 pm

Dublin - Garden of Remembrance, Parnell Square

Cork - Bishop Lucy Park, Grand Parade

hussey

will they have doritos?

cheeseandonion

Bring your own

MunsterCycling

Everyone there will have the munchies so if you set up a stand outside you'll make a fortune...

DJ Hafez

What a great place for gards to do random searching!

11811

only if its like this -

cheeseandonion

DJ Hafez wrote: »

What a great place for gards to do random searching!

The Dublin one which is running for it's 3rd year has always gone off without hitch. I expect the Cork one to be the same.

towel401

no

i really couldnt give a ****

diego ribas

towel401 wrote: »

no

i really couldnt give a ****

yet enough to post in this thread

MunsterCycling

Nah the easiest would be to only have one entrance open and have customs turn up with their sniffer dogs, watch the crusties scatter.

MC

turgon

Saying the the government could only make about 200 million in taxes is a very conservative estimate. I would put it at more than half a billion.

But I only really want cannabis legalized for political-economic reasons rather than personal ones, so these kind of marches wouldn't be for me I would think.

cheeseandonion

turgon wrote: »

But I only really want cannabis legalized for political-economic reasons rather than personal ones, so these kind of marches wouldn't be for me I would think.

That is a great reason to turn out

J.S. Pill

cheeseandonion wrote: »

Hey all,
I just read this on another site www.cannabisireland.net and I am defiantly thinking about going. Anyone else heading out?

Legalise Cannabis Ireland was founded almost two and a half ago following several years of sporadic attempts at highlighting the fallacy that is the prohibition of cannabis. Prior to this, virtually the only...

I suspect either the author or the sub-editor might have been puffing the magic dragon themselves

Belfast

Will a march increase the chance of the law changing ?

minidazzler

Belfast wrote: »

Will a march increase the chance of the law changing ?

Nope, but it will let people meet up and network, and find some new dealers.

towel401

diego ribas wrote: »

yet enough to post in this thread

only just.. still it would be kinda cool to have a plant with pretty leaves outside the window without having to worry about some do gooder

cheeseandonion

Belfast wrote: »

Will a march increase the chance of the law changing ?

More so then if we don't apply pressure to the government.

Things are changing globally as more people realise prohibition doesn't work. Even some places realise economically it makes sense for cannabis to be regulated.

Lets take the money out of the hands of gangs

Owen

They should legalise it on the agreement that :

Crusties start washing
Stop wearing hemp clothing
Crustie women start shaving their armpits and legs again
They use leads instead of bits of string for their dogs
They wash their dogs occassionally
Crusties stop trying to pursuade the rest of us whos brains work that crystals have healing properties. They don't. It's just a piece of glass.

mukki

ned78 wrote: »

They should legalise it on the agreement that :

Crusties start washing
Stop wearing hemp clothing
Crustie women start shaving their armpits and legs again
They use leads instead of bits of string for their dogs
They wash their dogs occassionally
Crusties stop trying to pursuade the rest of us who's brains work that crystals have healing properties. They don't. It's just a piece of glass.

hahaha

i love the way stoners always plan "to get so stoned" at the next bank holiday weekend, while normal folk plan to do something or go somewhere

Milkey Bar Kid

They will never legalise it .
Its an excuse to have a smoke infront of the Garda.

JohnK

Seems a waste of time to be honest. The government is composed of people who'll never risk the wrath of the self righteous twats who keep moaning about how terrible society is and how drugs will be the death of us all. And do you know why? Its because those are the same people who’ll come out in force on election day and will be canvassing for their party in the lead-up to it.

Personally I'm all for legalisation and if it comes to a vote I'll certainly vote in its favour but you can march down the street 5 times a week and it wont change a damn thing. You'd be better off harassing contacting your local td and making them realise the perceptions of how cannabis is so evil are really unfounded and unnecessary. Have your friends do the same, offer to canvas for them at the next elections if they'll support legalisation. It'll bring change a hell of a lot faster than marching down the street.

cheeseandonion

It should be a great day out

cork1

this country is screwed up enough already if anything they should punish people harder for drug use.

Kersmash

Why? Who're they harming by smoking a few joints?

Kold

mukki wrote: »

hahaha

i love the way stoners always plan "to get so stoned" at the next bank holiday weekend, while normal folk plan to do something or go somewhere

Normal folk plan to get so drunk that they can barely walk.

roneythetube

ned78 wrote: »

They should legalise it on the agreement that :

Crusties start washing
Stop wearing hemp clothing
Crustie women start shaving their armpits and legs again
They use leads instead of bits of string for their dogs
They wash their dogs occassionally
Crusties stop trying to pursuade the rest of us whos brains work that crystals have healing properties. They don't. It's just a piece of glass.

that is a really well informed , carefully thought out response to a question that needs to be addressed. thanks for your input.

Owen

roneythetube wrote: »

that is a really well informed , carefully thought out response to a question that needs to be addressed. thanks for your input.

I thought so too.

turgon

Kersmash wrote: »

Why? Who're they harming by smoking a few joints?

THAT DOESNT MATTER - DRUGS ARE BAD!!!

/sarcasm

diego ribas

cork1 wrote: »

this country is screwed up enough already if anything they should punish people harder for drug use.

yes, lets see the courtrooms the prisons and other resources tied up for punishment of hippys and students.:rolleyes:

roneythetube

ned78 wrote: »

I thought so too.

so maybe you could give us a few more of your pearls of wisdom on this issue?
what else have you got to say about the potential legalisation of cannabis? will you be at the march? maybe we could all meet up?;)

Owen

roneythetube wrote: »

will you be at the march? maybe we could all meet up?;)

No, sorry, I have a job and a life. But thanks for the invite. I'm sure the march will go well, and it'll be legalised afterwards ... because you know there's nothing better that legislators like to listen to except drug loving smelly crusty hemp wearing hippies.

all is violent

ned78 wrote: »

No, sorry, I have a job and a life. But thanks for the invite. I'm sure the march will go well, and it'll be legalised afterwards ... because you know there's nothing better that legislators like to listen to except drug loving smelly crusty hemp wearing hippies.

Well its on a Saturday and you seem to be on this regularly enough to completely disprove this statement

If i'm not too hungover, i'll well go in. Although, at the marches against the re-introduction of student fees, me and a mate got baked and started shouting legalise it. So we've done our part:p

roneythetube

all is violent wrote: »

Well its on a Saturday and you seem to be on this regularly enough to completely disprove this statement

arf. good one. so c'mon neddie its on a saturday. surely you will not be working on saturday? Cork needs to face up to the issue of cannabis use and this is one way of bringing this issue into the wider public consciousness.

so c'mon down. you might like it. maybe meet some nice people. have a laugh. a break from your serious life and job. it'll be great. we can all get to know each other.

Owen

all is violent wrote: »

Well its on a Saturday and you seem to be on this regularly enough to completely disprove this statement

What, because being at work means I can't be online? If that's the case, 98% of boards must be unemployed.

roneythetube wrote: »

arf. good one. so c'mon neddie its on a saturday. surely you will not be working on saturday?

Yes, I am working on Saturday ... but even if I wasn't, the thought of hanging out with smelly hairy women and wasters who think a march will do anything to legalise their waster habit pretty much turns me off the whole idea.

roneythetube

ah now Neddie c'mon it'll be great craic altogether. you will add an air of respectability to the whole show with your Saturday job and virtuous ways.

It's gonna be a rockin' day out. Don;t miss it people. IN years to come you can look back and say you were part of the movement that changed society for the better.

crustyjuggler

I'm going to this , it should be good entertainment ,

spitfireIRL

ned78 wrote: »

No, sorry, I have a job and a life. But thanks for the invite. I'm sure the march will go well, and it'll be legalised afterwards ... because you know there's nothing better that legislators like to listen to except drug loving smelly crusty hemp wearing hippies.

that is one of the most pathetically biased opinions I have ever heard

roneythetube

spitfireIRL wrote: »

that is one of the most pathetically biased opinions I have ever heard

don;t mind him spitfire. it's just that he and many others do not yet understand what cannabis has to offer to us as a society and as a medicine. we are all still evolving on many levels and each of us has their own journey to make..:)

BUT ...make sure that you go to this march and help to educate those who need it most.

peace all

buckrodgers

"What cannabis has to offer!!" Can we get serious here - cannabis is a drug - just like alcohol is a drug - both do damage and as far as I can see mostly to the families of heavy smokers and drinkers alike. I think cannabis should be decriminalized but not available freely. Look how bad the irish race are at controlling their alcohol consumption. Also I do not want hoards of people coming to Ireland for smoking holidays no matter how much money it makes. Cannabis appears to be freely available here and has been glamorised to a certain extent but it does also come with its own set of problems. If you know anyone who smokes a lot, you will know how aggressive and agitated they become when they havent got it. If it is to be legalised we need to take all aspects of it seriously no matter what side of the debate we are on. By the way, our current taoiseach admitted to smoking it in college.

cheeseandonion

Can't wait for tomorrow

busted flush

buckrodgers wrote: »

By the way, our current taoiseach admitted to smoking it in college.

Respect!

busted flush

:)I would love to go but il be to stoned to bother!

Belfast

Looks like RTE TV news could not be bothered covering it either.

Kersmash

Couldn't make it in today, how'd it go?

O'Coonassa

mukki wrote: »

hahaha

i love the way stoners always plan "to get so stoned" at the next bank holiday weekend, while normal folk plan to do something or go somewhere

Ya the pub...

O'Coonassa

buckrodgers wrote: »

"What cannabis has to offer!!" Can we get serious here - cannabis is a drug - just like alcohol is a drug - both do damage and as far as I can see mostly to the families of heavy smokers and drinkers alike.

Yes but you can make oil, cars, plastics,rope, cloth, medicines, and houses out of cannabis, try doing that with beer.

Mr. Gruff

buckrodgers wrote: »

Can we get serious here - cannabis is a drug - just like alcohol is a drug - both do damage and as far as I can see mostly to the families of heavy smokers and drinkers alike. I think cannabis should be decriminalized but not available freely

I have to disagree here, decriminalization without regulation will only (in my eyes at least) compound the problems that already exist with cannabis in Ireland - the organized, violent criminal distribution network who are involved in gang wars where we are increasingly at risk of becoming innocent casualties.

If you were just to decriminalize, we would have no way of dealing with this aspect of their "business". There would still be dangerous drug dealing gangs killing each other over competition and using potentially dangerous additives in their weed (like the tiny glass particles used in industrial abrasion that can really play havoc in your lungs if you're sucking it in with your smoke) to bulk up their quantities and make more money.

There's also the fact that it doesn't make economic sense to decriminalize without going one step further and legalizing. Think of all the tax and jobs that could be created (both directly and indirectly).Not to mention the boom in the fast food sector, we could definitely open another couple of Maccy D's around the place and give all those out of work architects and microchip makers a chance to get off the dole ; )

By the way, our current taoiseach admitted to smoking it in college.

So did O'bama, and he even admitted to inhaling!

By the way, I'm not crusty, I don't have long hair, a rainbow hat woven by Peruvian widows and no, I don't wear hemp

cheeseandonion

what a great march that was yesterday! kick ass!

roneythetube

hope everyone enjoyed themselves at the march and let's get ready to do it all again soon. this change is happening as we speak folks. be part of this change..

nice one to all who marched..keep on keepin' on.