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Leprechaun have cheek to send reload bonus emails

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  • 23-04-2009 1:38pm
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    mdwexford
    Registered Users Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi Michael

    Leprechaun Poker is running a reload bonus for all our players until the end of April. Make your next deposit any time from now until April 30th, and we will load you up with bonus dollars to match your deposit 100% up to $500!*

    See you at the tables

    The Leprechaun Poker Team

    *Terms and conditions for this reload bonus are the same as for our First Deposit Bonus, so check our website if unsure: Click


    How can this guy still be running his skin when he didnt pay up the 60k or whatever he owed in Irish Open tickets, unreal.


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    ocallagh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,140 ✭✭✭ocallagh


    mdwexford wrote: »
    How can this guy still be running his skin when he didnt pay up the 60k or whatever he owed in Irish Open tickets, unreal.
    wow, I'm not surprised but I didn't see much fuss about this before, surprised it passed so quietly.


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    Rekop dog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭Rekop dog


    mdwexford wrote: »
    Hi Michael

    Leprechaun Poker is running a reload bonus for all our players until the end of April. Make your next deposit any time from now until April 30th, and we will load you up with bonus dollars to match your deposit 100% up to $500!*

    See you at the tables

    The Leprechaun Poker Team

    *Terms and conditions for this reload bonus are the same as for our First Deposit Bonus, so check our website if unsure: Click


    How can this guy still be running his skin when he didnt pay up the 60k or whatever he owed in Irish Open tickets, unreal.
    I almost nearly commend the guy giving the sheer brazenness of this. Saying that i won't be depositing any time soon.


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    careca
    Registered Users Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭careca


    mdwexford wrote: »
    How can this guy still be running his skin when he didnt pay up the 60k or whatever he owed in Irish Open tickets, unreal.

    Link or cliff notes?? Missed it at the time.


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    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users Posts: 13,323 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    careca wrote: »
    Link or cliff notes?? Missed it at the time.

    Srsly?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055360443


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    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    did anyone report it to Ipoker?


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    BigCityBanker
    Registered Users Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    did anyone report it to Ipoker?

    report what exactly?


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    Macspower
    Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Macspower


    have spoken to better poker an dmailed i poker about it but they really don't seem to care..

    anyway other boards banned methods are now underway from me anyway...

    one the things that annoys me is that I have on good authority that the site is still profiatable to the tune of about 4 k per month in rake.... this is from a lot of the french players signed at christmas and some other regulars on it..


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    #9
    sickpuppy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 955 ✭✭✭sickpuppy


    LOL just checked my email got the reload offer too its areal kick in the nuts and a big 2 fingered salute to the guys who were promised aticket but it was renaged on.


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    bohsman
    Registered Users Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    Macspower wrote: »

    anyway other boards banned methods are now underway from me anyway...

    I thought they guaranteed your ticket for you?


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    CourierCollie
    Registered Users Posts: 663 ✭✭✭CourierCollie


    bohsman wrote: »
    I thought they guaranteed your ticket for you?
    I'm open to correction, but afaik THE CLAMPER personally funded his ticket. Not Leprechaun directly.


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    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,716 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Is it the same guy thats still running it, or has it been sold? Just wondering.

    Didn't the guy say he was close to losing his house and all that? Did he sell up or is he still trying to make a go of it. Also didn't he say he would try to rectify the matter at some stage in the future if he got the money?

    From reading that thread at the time the guy seems like a decent bloke in a very unfortunate situation. If thats the case give the man some time and if nothing happens have your say.


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    Ollieboy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Ollieboy


    got the same email, thought it was a bit rich after everything that happen...

    A big long thick neck.


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    SuperHans
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭SuperHans


    bohsman wrote: »
    I thought they guaranteed your ticket for you?

    No, they "guaranteed" his ticket for him.


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    careca
    Registered Users Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭careca


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    Srsly?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055360443


    Not sure how but I honestly did miss it. WOW is all i can say.

    Thanks AJ.


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    Macspower
    Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Macspower


    bohsman wrote: »
    I thought they guaranteed your ticket for you?

    No Leprechaun did nopt buy me a ticket into the I/O no more than they did for anyone else...

    Derek Williams staked me into the I/O and had 30% of my action (which was 0) making good on a personal guarantee he made me that if leprechaun didn't buy I would play the Irish open.. 2 different things entirely..


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    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    I completely missed that too it has to be said!

    Um... wow.


    DeV.
    I've been up to t*ts with business etc but slowly getting back into playing "social" poker.


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    #18
    Macspower
    Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Macspower


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Is it the same guy thats still running it, or has it been sold? Just wondering.

    Didn't the guy say he was close to losing his house and all that? Did he sell up or is he still trying to make a go of it. Also didn't he say he would try to rectify the matter at some stage in the future if he got the money?

    From reading that thread at the time the guy seems like a decent bloke in a very unfortunate situation. If thats the case give the man some time and if nothing happens have your say.

    It's the same guy.. the site is still taking in a good bit of rake and no effort whatsoever has been made by leprechaun to put anything right...
    His loosing his house is certainly nothign to do with me or anyone else that qualified...

    Ok do the maths as see how sorry you feel for him...

    Personally I paid 3200 USd in Rake to get my Irish open ticket
    I know of 10 qualifiers but there may be more ... I played limit but most played NLH and paid more rake... so lets aver 3500 in rake paid..

    A ticket costs 4000 USD so total outlay if he bought the tickets would have been 40,000 USD

    during the promotion 35,000 was paid in rake approx and if the tickets were bought then they would have made a loss as originally intended..

    however since the tickets were not bought then a nice tidy profit was made by all...

    No contact has been made by leprechaun and no offer of any compensation of any kind has been offered to me anyway and I doubt anyone else...

    the original statement I believe came from a direct contact I made with better poker that day and they came back and said they had contacted him and instructed him to make a statment clearing them of any involvement...


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    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,716 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Macs you may have picked me up wrong. I'm not saying anything negative about the guys who lost out here. I fully understand how sickening that is, I've been in a similar situation in the past moneywise.

    I'm just saying that it came across from reading the other thread that the guy was genuine and what I took from reading that thread is that those involved will in the future be compensated for their loss if things turn around for the site.

    I'm not recommending that anybody goes and plays there again but surely the guys who lost out here must give some time to this Bru guy and if he comes up with the money and pays everyone off then while its not ideal(as in it was still a broken agreement), at least they got paid. I'm just saying that all these negative comments are not going to help the site and leave less chance for those who lost out of ever gettig their 4000 us dollars.

    Just my thoughts, I'm not involved in anyway but I just feel that if I was in the situation I'd have said my piece in the other thread and leave it alone for another three or four months and see if I do actually get something from it. At that stage it has either happened or the chances of it ever happpening are very minute.


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    RoundTower
    Registered Users Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    he's probably making a fortune from the site and laughing his hole off right now


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    Macspower
    Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Macspower


    RoundTower wrote: »
    he's probably making a fortune from the site and laughing his hole off right now

    I dont believe it is a fortune but it is significant


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    Ollieboy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Ollieboy


    Macspower wrote: »
    It's the same guy.. the site is still taking in a good bit of rake and no effort whatsoever has been made by leprechaun to put anything right...
    His loosing his house is certainly nothign to do with me or anyone else that qualified...

    Ok do the maths as see how sorry you feel for him...

    Personally I paid 3200 USd in Rake to get my Irish open ticket
    I know of 10 qualifiers but there may be more ... I played limit but most played NLH and paid more rake... so lets aver 3500 in rake paid..

    A ticket costs 4000 USD so total outlay if he bought the tickets would have been 40,000 USD

    during the promotion 35,000 was paid in rake approx and if the tickets were bought then they would have made a loss as originally intended..

    however since the tickets were not bought then a nice tidy profit was made by all...

    No contact has been made by leprechaun and no offer of any compensation of any kind has been offered to me anyway and I doubt anyone else...

    the original statement I believe came from a direct contact I made with better poker that day and they came back and said they had contacted him and instructed him to make a statment clearing them of any involvement...


    I totally agree with your feelings against this guy and the set-up in general and I think its a real rub into peoples faces that the site is still going. But someone should discuss this with a 3rd party etc.

    Anyway just to clarify you're figures. You paid 3200 in rake, his site would only get 40% of this rake, not the whole lot. Hence why he couldn't afford to pay for the tickets. Betterpoker would have taken maybe 20% and ipoker would have got the other 40%. So out of your 3200 in rake he would have got 1280 in funds. This is only a rough guess.


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    Macspower
    Registered Users Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Macspower


    Ollieboy wrote: »
    I totally agree with your feelings against this guy and the set-up in general and I think its a real rub into peoples faces that the site is still going. But someone should discuss this with a 3rd party etc.

    Anyway just to clarify you're figures. You paid 3200 in rake, his site would only get 40% of this rake, not the whole lot. Hence why he couldn't afford to pay for the tickets. Betterpoker would have taken maybe 20% and ipoker would have got the other 40%. So out of your 3200 in rake he would have got 1280 in funds. This is only a rough guess.

    yeah Ollie... and by the way I didn't even get offered a reload bonus :rolleyes: they quite simply havn't replied to my mails at all.

    I know the way it works... My figures may not be perfectly accurate but I know ipoker get 20% and judging the way some other sub skins work ..better is probably on 20%... I think leppers get 60% of the rake..

    The truth of the matter was if they had made an effort to pay up or honour the agreement in some way I would still play there to try and get some of my dough back.... I'm a reasonable person and anyone coming to me with a reasonable offer of any type would be considered....

    I've always been a sucker for someone that tells me straight and offers me a 10er a week... but straight they have not been... there is even more to it that I won't go into on a public forum..


    the bit about being in danger of loosing the house is true but it's nothing to do with leprechaun or me and I can tell you that ....


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    ianmc38
    Registered Users Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    macs you should make a post on the 2+2 forums about this. Publicise it as much as possible so that this guy never gets the opportunity to cheat another poker player again.


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    White Knight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭White Knight


    Could be a vain attempt to try muster up business in order to pay the debts ...


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    strewelpeter
    Registered Users Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭strewelpeter


    eagle eye wrote: »
    ...
    I'm just saying that it came across from reading the other thread that the guy was genuine and what I took from reading that thread is that those involved will in the future be compensated for their loss if things turn around for the site.

    You could, if you were that way inclined, listen to any number of creeps like this one on the likes of Liveline, they are ten a penny. There is one turns up every other week whether it is Modelling, double glazing, holidays or poker the country is crawling with them. They are always plausible, you never ever believe that they set out to defraud people. This is the key to how it works, to be a Confidence Trickster the secret is to have complete and utter confidence in the lie you are selling. The easiest way to get that confidence is to completely believe the lie yourself.
    If you are in the business of setting up yet another iPoker skin in a highly competitive market and you come up with a business plan to pay out up to 120% rakeback as a promotion when as a third level skin you can only collect a percentage of the rake there will be a moment where you as an adult human with a partially working brain you will be fully understanding of the fact that this plan is nonsense. However you need a plan to get market share you don't have the imagination or work ethic to come up with anything better and, well this is just such a damn good idea to generate business...or as the boys in SouthPark might put it :

    Set up an iPoker skin.
    Offer an unlimited value live tournament buy in.
    ???
    Profit.

    It doesn't matter how genuine he seems, genuine is the hallmark of a Con Man, honouring your promises is the mark of a decent human being. Recognising and admitting to the inevitable default on this stupid offer early on (Before Christmas IMO) instead of carrying on a charade stringing people along while digging yourself into a deeper and deeper hole, would have been enough to save face in this case.


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    latenia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭latenia


    I missed the whole affair too. In future could we have some kind of alert sent out when there's a popcorn thread going on? As we saw here, not all of them have titles like 'Incident in The Fitz last night' or 'Collusion on Paddy Power.'


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    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    BigCityBanker wrote: »
    report what exactly?



    Would they not look unfavourably on skins that make guarantees as part of a promotion and then break them? It cant look good for them from a PR point of view.


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    Lao Lao
    Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Lao Lao


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    Would they not look unfavourably on skins that make guarantees as part of a promotion and then break them? It cant look good for them from a PR point of view.

    No offense, but I really did laugh out loud. Surely you don't think that iPoker actually give two fcuks as to what their customers think of them??


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    ianmc38
    Registered Users Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Also Macs, there are loads of press release sites on the net. I'd look into sending out a press release re: leprechaun poker so that google starts indexing them as scammers/cheats/liars etc/


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    CHD
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    lol little green people


    Cheeky Cheeky


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