job prospects with LLM

Lockstep

I'm looking at what to do after university and I found human rights law extremely interesting.
NUIG offers a LLM in Internatioanl human rights which appeals to me.

I'm just wondering what sort of jobs I could get with this without doing FE1s.

Any help appreciated.

Tom Young

Yeah - Human Rights Commission or head to Strasbourg or the EU. Loads of jobs. LLMs are LLMs ...

Lockstep

Is there massive competition for the jobs?

I looked into the UN and they have a load of brilliant HR jobs although require at least 2 years experience, is getting a job tough?

jady88

A masters in law is generally the reserve of those who have a view to becoming instructors of some kind in law... or anoraks

maidhc

jady88 wrote: »

A masters in law is generally the reserve of those who have a view to becoming instructors of some kind in law... or anoraks

Nope. It is quite common for Solicitors/Barristers to have an LLM.

I have done some teaching, but just decided not to follow the path of academia (which ultimately requires you to do a PhD if you are serious).

Does an LLM help you get a job: Yes
Does an LLM help you get a high paying job straight out of college: Not a hope
Is an LLM a useful stepping stone to specialisation in some area of law: Yes

Dante09

If you're looking at doing a masters for the sake of increasing your chances of getting an apprenticeship at a corporate firm-FORGET ABOUT IT. Ive spoken about this to the trainee recruiter of one of the BIG 5 and was told that a masters does not set you apart from the competition in any way, because too many people have them nowadays. If you wish to do one out of interest go ahead-its certainly not a waste of time-but dont do it here, do it abroad, it looks a lot better on the CV for ANY job prospects + irish masters are not regarded very highly.

Johnny Utah

Dante09 wrote: »

If you're looking at doing a masters for the sake of increasing your chances of getting an apprenticeship at a corporate firm-FORGET ABOUT IT. Ive spoken about this to the trainee recruiter of one of the BIG 5 and was told that a masters does not set you apart from the competition in any way, because too many people have them nowadays. If you wish to do one out of interest go ahead-its certainly not a waste of time-but dont do it here, do it abroad, it looks a lot better on the CV for ANY job prospects + irish masters are not regarded very highly.

I agree, that's why I decided not to pursue an LLM (for the moment at least anyway)

hada

I think people are forgetting completely what the OP has posted. He's clearly not looking for a job with a commerical law firm. He's asked about Strasbourg, the HR commisson, etc.

If you are looking to get into Human Rights, you will need to do a masters, simple as. Do you're masters, further your competence in the area, and then if the opportunity arises, look to a PhD. I have a friend currently carrying out a PhD at the ICHR (Irish Centre for Human Rights) at NUI Galway, and she's getting tonnes of opportunities to broaden her portfolio with side projects handed to her by her supervisor (Schabas - one of the founders of the ICJ).

So in summary, an LLM in Human Rights from the Centre of Human Rights would be a great opportunity for you to broaden your horizons and see if HR is really for you.

However, I must also advise that if the option is open to you, go and look at foreign LLMs, at least initially, and LLM from a foreign jurisdiction will provide you with a fantastic leverage point should you want to pursue a PhD (which is what you would need eventually to do) at the ICHR. Look to Leiden in Holland (taught in English), look to LSE (they have a rolling admission that has been open for some time now, so best be quick with that one), or if your grades/money allow it, look to Oxbridge (admission closed for this year), or even Columbia (it's in NY, same city as UN HQ...Mary Robinson is a HR lecturer there).

So in a nutshell, go for it, the LLM in HR at the ICHR is very well respected. But don't be afraid to look outside of Irish shores.

Johnny Utah

hada wrote: »

I think people are forgetting completely what the OP has posted. He's clearly not looking for a job with a commerical law firm. He's asked about Strasbourg, the HR commisson, etc.

If you are looking to get into Human Rights, you will need to do a masters, simple as. Do you're masters, further your competence in the area, and then if the opportunity arises, look to a PhD. I have a friend currently carrying out a PhD at the ICHR (Irish Centre for Human Rights) at NUI Galway, and she's getting tonnes of opportunities to broaden her portfolio with side projects handed to her by her supervisor (Schabas - one of the founders of the ICJ).

So in summary, an LLM in Human Rights from the Centre of Human Rights would be a great opportunity for you to broaden your horizons and see if HR is really for you.

However, I must also advise that if the option is open to you, go and look at foreign LLMs, at least initially, and LLM from a foreign jurisdiction will provide you with a fantastic leverage point should you want to pursue a PhD (which is what you would need eventually to do) at the ICHR. Look to Leiden in Holland (taught in English), look to LSE (they have a rolling admission that has been open for some time now, so best be quick with that one), or if your grades/money allow it, look to Oxbridge (admission closed for this year), or even Columbia (it's in NY, same city as UN HQ...Mary Robinson is a HR lecturer there).

So in a nutshell, go for it, the LLM in HR at the ICHR is very well respected. But don't be afraid to look outside of Irish shores.

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