Boy Racers in Celbridge

kildarecommuter

Has anyone else noticed the problem with boy racers in celbridge ? Do they ever go to bed

easyeason3

Join the rest of the country.
They usually meet in a car park that is about half a mile away from me but I can still hear them!!!
Surely there is something about noise pollution?
But I'd put up with the noise. My uncle was on his way home one night & narrowly avoided crashing into a boyracer, the boy racer pulled a doughnut thingy in front of my uncle as he came off a roundabout. Uncle was lucky he wasn't seriously injured or killed.
But if he had got out of the car & confronted the boyracer he would have been in the wrong :rolleyes:

Rob67

Hello, I have to suffer these guys most nights as they use the Ardclough road as a drag-strip, after most Friday/ Saturday nights you will find the skid marks on the road from the doughnuts and wheel-spins they are fond of doing. As is usual, I let the Gardai know and sometimes you'll get a squad car making it's way up, sometimes not. It can be a bit frustrating at times:mad:. I have been tempted to get out to say something but I know that I'd be the one having my collar felt for 'road rage'.

Joe Public

If you walk up or down the approach roads any evening you will always encounter some driving by at mad speeds with roaring noises. I can't understand why the gardai just don't do a bit more speed checking as it should be very easy to build up their penalty points rather than responding only when people complain.

Blue_Wolf

ya they are everywhere, leixlip pretty bad aswell.

They should but a big tax on low profile tyres, they will think again before burning them out so quickly

Davidth88

Interestingly I wrote to all the local cllrs about 3 years ago.

Basically myself and my wife were walking along Shackleton Rd ( the road between tescos and the Clane Rd ) one evening

3 Cars roared past doing 70-80 mph obviously racing .

This road has schools , and entrances to estates etc.

I suggested that perhaps they should make delegations to the Gardai to speed trap there ...... 3 years later I have yet to see a speed trap or anything.

I am amazed at the speed of the traffic down this road ,and also the Maynooth Rd.

the_syco

Davidth88 wrote: »

I suggested that perhaps they should make delegations to the Gardai to speed trap there ...... 3 years later I have yet to see a speed trap or anything.

Get speed ramps. Look at the amount of speed ramps in Castletown House, compared to the lack of boy racers. Lowered cars don't like speed bumps all that much. There's afew straights around Leixlip that have gotten speed ramps put down. A sudden lack of boy racers in lowered cars happen.

Joe Public

the_syco wrote: »

Get speed ramps. Look at the amount of speed ramps in Castletown House, compared to the lack of boy racers. Lowered cars don't like speed bumps all that much. There's afew straights around Leixlip that have gotten speed ramps put down. A sudden lack of boy racers in lowered cars happen.

KCC have plans for ramps on the Clane Rd and the Maynooth Rd but no mention of ramps for the Shackleton Rd.

This week a speed display unit appeared on The Shackleton Rd and looked nice and clear when displaying car speeds but now it's gone so dim you can hardly make it out.

kildarecommuter

Joe Public wrote: »

KCC have plans for ramps on the Clane Rd and the Maynooth Rd but no mention of ramps for the Shackleton Rd.

This week a speed display unit appeared on The Shackleton Rd and looked nice and clear when displaying car speeds but now it's gone so dim you can hardly make it out.

I actually thought it was broken this eve must be very dim. Spoke to the guards recently about them skidding about at Esso station. Basically they said ring and report them and they will call up if squad car available but resources are limited

Davidth88

I have a hatred for speed ramps to be honest.

I think speed ramps on through routes that are used by amongst other things buses are not really the way ahead.

Perhaps speed cameras would be a better way ( can't believe I am typing that!)

The Shackleton Rd is terrible for speeding , yesterday the Gardai were trapping around 4pm up at the Guinness family residence just past the Girls school on the Clane Road. But as usual they were hidden , not a high vis presence .

They need to be clocking around the bend leading to Tesco's from Old Town Mill once a week / month in a high vis way.

mach1982

I have theory about boy raves with large exhaust, I think they are compensating for some thing ........

The Raven.

Davidth88 wrote: »

I have a hatred for speed ramps to be honest.

I think speed ramps on through routes that are used by amongst other things buses are not really the way ahead.

Perhaps speed cameras would be a better way ( can't believe I am typing that!)

I couldn't agree more. I have a hatred for them too. They are the typical lazy, nanny state, punish-all answer to anti-social behaviour. They are a pain in the neck for all drivers, but especially for buses, trucks, ambulances, fire brigades, and police cars.

I know the speed cameras are a bit Orwellian, but at least they provide the means to punish the culprits, instead of the whole of society.

Ramps require drivers to reduce speed down to about 20 km, if you don't want to damage your vehicle. This includes areas where the speed limit varies from 30 (housing estates) to 50 (urban areas). I have stopped using the Strawberry Beds route since they put in about 28 ramps. I seem to remember the speed limit there used to be 60 km, but that may have changed.

Alz®

mach1982 wrote: »

I have theory about boy raves with large exhaust, I think they are compensating for some thing ........

I have a 4" exhaust on my car and never had any complaints so if i think what you are incinuating you should look a little closer to home, you obviously have little to worry if you have theorys about what what other people do with there money :rolleyes:

kildarecommuter

Alz® wrote: »

I have a 4" exhaust on my car and never had any complaints so if i think what you are incinuating you should look a little closer to home, you obviously have little to worry if you have theorys about what what other people do with there money :rolleyes:

I dont care what size your exhaust is or anyone elses all that annoys me is F*ckwits who speed dangerously on roads and pull handbrake turns doughnuts etc.

djimi

What I dont understand is why the guards dont just start pulling these guys over and taking a look at what they have on the car. Most of these boy racers are not insured to have the car as modified as they are, and if the guards started charging these guys for driving without insurance (which they effectively are) and punishing them accordingly, this might improve things.

Personally I dont really mind people driving modified cars with big exhausts or whatever, so long as they drive them sensibly and do not annoy people. I wouldnt get away with doing donuts in the middle of a shopping center car park, Id be pulled straight away, so I dont see why its any different for these little dickheads. And the ones who fly around the roads at 80mph+, overtaking on bends and what not, why are they not being pulled for dangerous driving.

For me the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of the Gardai for this problem; the laws are there to prosecute these clowns, theyre just not being enforced.

pyro940

Just to add to this, I have noticed over the last couple of weeks the Gardai have mounted speed traps around the area (one at the entrance to the GAA club in the evenings to catch inbound traffic and, ironical, one in the mornings at the entrance to the old garden centre outbound just down from the Esso station on the Clane road).

Given that the Esso Station seems to be a staging area for the boy (and girl) racers of the area I feel the speed traps are a definite “soft target” practice.

We get week after week high profile road safety campaigns, in particular at bank holidays, but as I see the blatant disregard for road safety of the boy racers and the lack of response of the Gardai to this and all the other antisocial behaviour in the area I really just lose all faith.

holly1

I bet if you or I put a foot out of place there would be a guard pulling us up very quickly.Its easy to loose faith in the law,when you see the way these gits drive and getaway with it time after time.

Alz®

djimi wrote: »

What I dont understand is why the guards dont just start pulling these guys over and taking a look at what they have on the car. Most of these boy racers are not insured to have the car as modified as they are, and if the guards started charging these guys for driving without insurance (which they effectively are) and punishing them accordingly, this might improve things.

Personally I dont really mind people driving modified cars with big exhausts or whatever, so long as they drive them sensibly and do not annoy people. I wouldnt get away with doing donuts in the middle of a shopping center car park, Id be pulled straight away, so I dont see why its any different for these little dickheads. And the ones who fly around the roads at 80mph+, overtaking on bends and what not, why are they not being pulled for dangerous driving.

For me the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of the Gardai for this problem; the laws are there to prosecute these clowns, theyre just not being enforced.

I could argue the point and say about the drink drivers/scumbags on the road you cant tar everyone with the one brush!!

I for one aint a boy racer, im 24 drive a Honda Civic Tax/NCT/Insurance all up to date.. yes my car is modified from standard but has no tacky bits added but i've nothing to declare to my insurance to make my car faster if anythings its slower since i put the alloys on the car because there bigger than the steel wheels they were with the car, its a hobby to me and i'd rather put money into my car than go the pub with my mates and piss my money down the toilet the same nite..

Folks you havta remember there good/bad/indifferent in everyone and this country is too quick to slate people because of what they see!!!

Yes these group of people doing hand brake turns and whatever else there doing shouldnt be allowed but if its a empty car park and no people in danger i dont see the problem, if they were doing it on a main road stop them etc but dont tar us all with the one brush..

my 2 cent

I do not accept that

Boy racers
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The boys are back in town
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ham6vFy8v2I

wicklowstevo

its not quite that simple im afraid , lots of the boyracers out there are like the previous poster, they rather have a nice car than drink the money , however there are also a lot of tools out there , driving while drunk druged or just stupid , if the gardai make an effort to go out an get them the are accused of harrasing these nice young men, a lot of money was pushed into traffic police in the last five years however the problem lies in the justice system, guy gets stopped for being a tool in his uninsured car, arrested and blood tested for drink and drugs ,comes back with cannabis , and he is brough to court, judge my client didnt know he was uninsured because he didnt get the letter saying he had 12 penalty points , as for the drugs how can the garda prove thats what effects his driving, , fact ongoing judical review case , result the tool is allowed to drive around for 5 years till its heard then gets off on the justice delayed /justice denied ruleing

dave45dave

Alz® wrote: »

I could argue the point and say about the drink drivers/scumbags on the road you cant tar everyone with the one brush!!

I for one aint a boy racer, im 24 drive a Honda Civic Tax/NCT/Insurance all up to date.. yes my car is modified from standard but has no tacky bits added but i've nothing to declare to my insurance to make my car faster if anythings its slower since i put the alloys on the car because there bigger than the steel wheels they were with the car, its a hobby to me and i'd rather put money into my car than go the pub with my mates and piss my money down the toilet the same nite..

Folks you havta remember there good/bad/indifferent in everyone and this country is too quick to slate people because of what they see!!!

Yes these group of people doing hand brake turns and whatever else there doing shouldnt be allowed but if its a empty car park and no people in danger i dont see the problem, if they were doing it on a main road stop them etc but dont tar us all with the one brush..

my 2 cent

Your reply was going great and i agreed with you , but you made a gobsh1te of yourself saying it was ok to do in an empty carpark.

Thats my 2 cent

Cicero

Front page headlines in this week's Liffey Champion about a burnt out car in the Abbey estate in Celbridge....thugs just got petrol and set it alight....suppose there will be thuggery everywhere you go but these incidents are becoming more and more common in Celbridge

mloc123

Pretty sure most 'boy racers' went with the celtic tiger and jobs on building sites...

Gregsor

Cicero wrote: »

Front page headlines in this week's Liffey Champion about a burnt out car in the Abbey estate in Celbridge....thugs just got petrol and set it alight....suppose there will be thuggery everywhere you go but these incidents are becoming more and more common in Celbridge

Nothing to do with Boy Racers at all but just another reason not to live in Celbridge,but i do like the place personally.

I do think the recession has had an effect on the souped up small car variation on our roads which just leads us to deal with annoying van drivers and TDI German car wanna be race car Schumachers.

Seriously i and the other halve come back on an average day with more complaints about suppossed qualified and capable drivers than the so called boyracers,stereotyping will never cease here.

We all know that there are some terrible drivers out there and maybe they are just short of revving there diesels at 2am in the morning to get attention because in my mind thats all they are missing the poor souls,tut tut!

gsxr1

If you see anyone driving dangerous in a built up area the Garda will respond if you give them an accurate description and a reg number.
If two or three residents give a report on the same car, it would be strong enough to take said car to court.

Keep reporting it. day and night.

If the Garda give them enough summons they will move somewhere else(unless they are completely brain dead).


No need for driving like that at all. Dont we have the best race circuit in Ireland with regular trackdays!! They really need to take there bad habits to mondello and learn how to drive correctly ..

Joe Public

Cicero wrote: »

Front page headlines in this week's Liffey Champion about a burnt out car in the Abbey estate in Celbridge....thugs just got petrol and set it alight....suppose there will be thuggery everywhere you go but these incidents are becoming more and more common in Celbridge

The paper also says it was a feud between travellers and they burnt out two vehicles belonged to the people they were feuding with.

s3129

dave45dave wrote: »

Your reply was going great and i agreed with you , but you made a gobsh1te of yourself saying it was ok to do in an empty carpark.

Thats my 2 cent

Its going to happen one way or another, its what some people are in to .. Wouldn't you prefer to see it in an empty car park than out on the road!?

Everyones tarred with the same brush. Its a boring topic because its always the same. Its not going to stop, the guards cannot wipe it out completely. Its like lads who watch hurling, they go out an practice and aspire to be like the lads they see on tv.. Drifting and motorsport have come along way in this country and lads are interested in it and they go out and try it for themselves.

And please stop this term 'drag racing' .. Not every two modified cars going down a road are drag racing. Young lads don't use that term at all, and few are into racing!

gsxr1

s3129 wrote: »

Its going to happen one way or another, its what some people are in to .. Wouldn't you prefer to see it in an empty car park than out on the road!?

That the problem. People should do it away from public sight and sound. If you are handbraking a car in a public place in a town then these morons deserve to lose there licence. There are people around and its dangerous.

Everyones tarred with the same brush. Its a boring topic because its always the same. Its not going to stop, the guards cannot wipe it out completely.

If one is banned from driving then I very much doubt he will be doing on a public place again.

Its like lads who watch hurling, they go out an practice and aspire to be like the lads they see on tv.. Drifting and motorsport have come along way in this country and lads are interested in it and they go out and try it for themselves.

Its not at all like hurling. Hurling does not evolve throwing a large car out of control in a public car park. This is a crazy comparison. As you well know . there is a drifting practice day in mondello every month. There is no excuse for childish boys to be upsetting residents in there homes. There is also a vast country side all around us in Kildare. All this space and these lads decide to practice in towns. No one would care if these numb nuts took it into the hills.
Im all for practicing as long as its done in a responsible manner. These guys are their own worse enemy. Making a enemy of a Garda or any resident when one does not have to is down right retarded.





T

s3129

gsxr1 wrote: »

That the problem. People should do it away from public sight and sound. If you are handbraking a car in a public place in a town then these morons deserve to lose there licence. There are people around and its dangerous.


If one is banned from driving then I very much doubt he will be doing on a public place again.


Its not at all like hurling. Hurling does not evolve throwing a large car out of control in a public car park. This is a crazy comparison. As you well know . there is a drifting practice day in mondello every month. There is no excuse for childish boys to be upsetting residents in there homes. There is also a vast country side all around us in Kildare. All this space and these lads decide to practice in towns. No one would care if these numb nuts took it into the hills.
Im all for practicing as long as its done in a responsible manner. These guys are their own worse enemy. Making a enemy of a Garda or any resident when one does not have to is down right retarded.





T

dont be silly.. when i compared it to hurling i didnt mean the lads are pucking balls around while they are pulling handbrakes.. i meant it as its a hobby and they see others doing it, take an interest in it, and go out an do it themselves..

And I know plenty of lads who have been banned and either continue to drive regardless or get straight back into a car and go messing once they are back on the road. I just think like other things, its never going to be stopped.

maguffin

Not only should they be banned...their cars should be confiscated and impounded. If they want them back they should have to pay a VERY large sum of money.

If they are repeat offenders, then they should permanantly loose their 'precious' cars.

They're idiots, and I've seen this proved time and time again by some of their illegal antics on public roads.

They are as much a problem in rural areas as they are in towns.

Stealthirl

maguffin wrote: »

They're idiots, and I've seen this proved time and time again by some of their illegal antics on public roads.

the school runners in the SUV,the businessman in his exec type car,the L drive and meny more of the ordinary joe sope are just as bad

everyone just notices a car with a loud exhaust more :rolleyes:

maguffin

School runners and business men and L drivers dont do 'Wheelies' at public cross-roads, or rev up their cars and then take off as if they were doing rallycross, or try to pass you on narrow country roads where it is obviously dangerous to do so, or handbrake turn around corners at cross roads......need I go on????

Stealthirl

So for example all the cars that overtake me on the road between celbridge and lucan where the limit is 60kph are realy boyracers in disguise ?

'Wheelies' only bikers can do them or insanely powerfull drag cars

Only last week i was nearly run off the road by a woman overtakeing me on a solid white line comeing up to a blind corner[compleate with small child standing on the back seat :rolleyes:]

My point is every driver is guilty of being stupid/reckless,dont genralise
I have driven moded cars for over 12 years
and im sick of people saying im a boy racer just cause i have a nice car with a loud exhaust.
When im not in my moded car and im driveing the octavia or altea would you still call me a boy racer ? even tho i drive the same ?

To me a boy racer is someone who has a car that looks like they sprayed glue on there car and drove thro halfords.
the cars also tent to be underpowered and the only resion they do things to them is to impress the oposit sex or there mates.most of there mods arnt declared to the inshurance companys and they tend to be on there parants policey


A car enthusiast like me tho take care of there car,do mods that improve the car in some way [mostly power and handleing for me] declare all there mods and keep there car taxed and NCTed

I hate comeing home late at night over the speed bumps as i make more noise then i would if they wernt there or were smaller.
The speed bumps up at gleneaston in leixlip are perfect you go to fast and u get a bad bump but stay under the limit and you dont feel them at all.the 1s round celbridge i nearly have to stop to drive over

I would rather spend money on my car the piss it away on drink or shoot it up useing drugs.

gsxr1

Stealthirl wrote: »

So for example all the cars that overtake me on the road between celbridge and lucan where the limit is 60kph are realy boyracers in disguise ?

'Wheelies' only bikers can do them or insanely powerfull drag cars

Only last week i was nearly run off the road by a woman overtakeing me on a solid white line comeing up to a blind corner[compleate with small child standing on the back seat :rolleyes:]

My point is every driver is guilty of being stupid/reckless,dont genralise
I have driven moded cars for over 12 years
and im sick of people saying im a boy racer just cause i have a nice car with a loud exhaust.
When im not in my moded car and im driveing the octavia or altea would you still call me a boy racer ? even tho i drive the same ?

To me a boy racer is someone who has a car that looks like they sprayed glue on there car and drove thro halfords.
the cars also tent to be underpowered and the only resion they do things to them is to impress the oposit sex or there mates.most of there mods arnt declared to the inshurance companys and they tend to be on there parants policey


A car enthusiast like me tho take care of there car,do mods that improve the car in some way [mostly power and handleing for me] declare all there mods and keep there car taxed and NCTed

I hate comeing home late at night over the speed bumps as i make more noise then i would if they wernt there or were smaller.
The speed bumps up at gleneaston in leixlip are perfect you go to fast and u get a bad bump but stay under the limit and you dont feel them at all.the 1s round celbridge i nearly have to stop to drive over

I would rather spend money on my car the piss it away on drink or shoot it up useing drugs.

I agree with what you are saying, but for you to suggest that there is not a social problem where lads with modified cars gather would be just untrue. You know probably more than others that there are a large bunch of ejits out there with very load exhausts causing a big problem with there reckless driving in built up areas. My grandmother has a terrible problem with it every night with high powered cars hand breaking around the car park beside her house. Till 1 am. It not on and they have been prosecuted over it.



As regards other groups like SUV drivers and Bikes. They have the sence not to drive like bannanas in 50KPH zones and out of sight(usually) . The same can not be said for the boy racer brigade . They seem to ask for the stigma that follows them, which is reflected in their insurance premiums as a high risk.

Gregsor

forestcritter wrote: »

I race civics on the ardclough road.

Good man,the medal is in the post :cool:.
Did you win?
Civics aren't quick you know,down to the aerodynamics,proven in the US in 1996.
The Glanzas are your only man :pac:,AKA Starlets.
Eitherway we can all talk ****e,some more than others,but i like your approach :cool:.

panama

Stealthirl wrote: »

im sick of people saying im a boy racer just cause i have a nice car with a loud exhaust.

'Nice' being a subjective term there. What do you need a loud exhaust for exactly apart from screaming 'look at me!!'???

The majority of these 'car enthusiasts' from personal experience in the Newbridge area for example are boy racers/wasters who are a danger on the roads and it seems by their reckless driving behaviour and antics above the law.

ChewChew

panama wrote: »

'Nice' being a subjective term there. What do you need a loud exhaust for exactly apart from screaming 'look at me!!'???

Because car enthusiasts build their cars to a performance level fit for the car. You might want to watch Top Gear every now and then, because you simply don't understand, therefore answering your question most likely will go over your head. if you're genuine, I propose you take that question here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=47

panama wrote: »

The majority of these 'car enthusiasts' from personal experience in the Newbridge area for example are boy racers/wasters who are a danger on the roads and it seems by their reckless driving behaviour and antics above the law.

So you are now saying that all car enthusiasts are ''boy racers/wasters''? that is a very stereotypically juvenile accusation, and pathetic. But lets bear in mind here.. it is Newbridge you are talking about after all :rolleyes:

panama

ChewChew wrote: »

Because car enthusiasts build their cars to a performance level fit for the car. You might want to watch Top Gear every now and then, because you simply don't understand, therefore answering your question most likely will go over your head. if you're genuine, I propose you take that question here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=47

So you are now saying that all car enthusiasts are ''boy racers/wasters''? that is a very stereotypically juvenile accusation, and pathetic. But lets bear in mind here.. it is Newbridge you are talking about after all :rolleyes:

No it's just attention seeking. Using 'Top Gear' as a reference to anything
is a bit ridiculous.

No I didn't say all, I said the 'majority' and from 'personal experience' if you care to read my post properly. And as regards your last line if that is intended as some kind of juvenile dig, I couldn't care less, I'm not from there.

Now don't you have a public carpark to get to? ;-)

ChewChew

panama wrote: »

No it's just attention seeking. Using 'Top Gear' as a reference to anything
is a bit ridiculous.

No I didn't say all, I said the 'majority' and from 'personal experience' if you care to read my post properly. And as regards your last line if that is intended as some kind of juvenile dig, I couldn't care less, I'm not from there.

Now don't you have a public carpark to get to? ;-)

the unwillingness to get your facts just proves my point, about your juvenile post. As for where you're from, couldn't care less either. It's the fact that the post is completely pathetic, that grabbed my attention. and for what it's worth, I'm far, far, far from a car enthusiast, I'm just not stupid enough to think that loud exhausts are attention seeking. So you can keep your snide little carpark comments for the 15 year olds.

Gregsor

I am a car enthusiast and more or less from Newbridge but don't worry i am too old to be a boyracer and i can't afford a noisey exhaust at the moment .

BuffyBot

If you want to debate the phenomenon of boy racers, their traits or origins, please do it on one of the sites more relevant forums. Let's keep this thread to the actual issue.