How Did I Do?

PhilipMarlowe · 17-04-2009 5:06pm #1

So my club has moved to the club2000 software for this year which means that results etc are posted on www.howdidido.co.uk
The system is great for competition results etc... now it has a "friends" feature for messaging with clubmates and friends from other clubs too.

I have embellished the rounds (filled in details about each shot) and it gives a statistical comparison.
I have 6 rounds up there now for my home course (3 competition, 3 practice) and it's a bit early to be looking at stats but the main ones are as follows:
Stroke Average | 75.83
G.I.R: | 63.21% (11.38 greens)
Sand Saves | 33.33%
Chips Up and Down | 54.05%
Average Putts | 31.25

Anyone else care to post theirs for this year?

thegen · 17-04-2009 5:12pm

Licksy, I have not used that feature yet. Looks good though. Will have a look.

Sionnachster · 17-04-2009 5:39pm

Licksy, that looks seriously clever and when I start playing each week I'll do it. If nothing else the thoughts of the forum scorn might enhance the play!

Do you sign up for that site and pay a premium or???

PhilipMarlowe · 17-04-2009 5:56pm

There are plenty of guys on here that have used it for a while now I think...
So long as your club use the compatible software (I think most do), you just register with the site and the majority of the system is free to use. I get an email when a competition closes at my home club with the CSS, where I placed in the competition and the top 3 places. When you log on to the site you can get the full results...
I think if you pay it is to receive alerts by SMS?

Dormie · 17-04-2009 9:44pm

I've just moved to a new club that uses the same software. It's a great facility to be able to see stats like that and it definitely highlights areas of your game to work on ...... like the poxy 36 putts average i've had in my first three comps!

Mister Sifter · 17-04-2009 9:57pm

I've been using the enhanced Howdidido for about 2 years now. It's fantastic, especially after the recent site overhaul. The embellishment option is free for the first month or so and then you have to pay an annual fee to keep it going. It's only 15 euro or so and in my opinion, well worth it.

The stats are great to look back on. At the end of the last two seasons i've printed my stats off and kept them for looking back on.

I'll hold off on posting my stats for the new season as i've had a fairly shocking start to the year...

PhilipMarlowe · 17-04-2009 11:24pm

Hey that's not fair!

I have an 83 in there shoving up my stroke average but then again my practice rounds were good... at least I didn't set myself a target of shooting 79 or less all year like someone else on here did because I know that's not me!

Mister Sifter · 18-04-2009 8:46am

Licksy wrote: »

Hey that's not fair!
I have an 83 in there shoving up my stroke average but then again my practice rounds were good... at least I didn't set myself a target of shooting 79 or less all year like someone else on here did because I know that's not me!

Haha... guilty as charged your honour. Let's just say that went out the window in my first 18 hole comp of the year and my current average is worryingly close to 80 as it stands.

I'll dig out the 07 and 08 stats and stick them up later though.

ShriekingSheet · 20-04-2009 8:48am

I use howdidido for competition results, handicap records etc but not for embellishing rounds and stats I must say. I found the interface a bit cumbersome and since the start of last year i've put together an excel file that does the same job.

I haven't played (especially putted) all that well yet this year. Picked up an injury a few weeks back which didn't help. The putting stat below is average putts per green in regulation. I find this a more relevent gauge of how well I'm putting because total putts can be misleading if you've missed a lot of greens and been chipping it close.

The up & down stat is a little skewed. A chip and putt from around a par 5 green is a GIR, not an up and down. It's based on pars : total missed greens. Obviously, a missed green could be because I played 3 off the tee, or took a penalty drop, or had to chip out of trees etc...

Strokes............78.7
Fairways..........6.8
Greens............10.7
Putting.............2.0
UP & Down.........35%

ShriekingSheet · 21-04-2009 3:00pm

I'v had another look at the round embellishing tool on Howdidido and it's not as bad aas I first suspected. Will be giving it a go for a few weeks.

Mr. Larson · 21-04-2009 7:21pm

It's a pain in the hoop embellishing every round but the stats you can get are really thorough... and you can compare your stats with others from your club who have embellished theirs... and even the same category of player at your club! Mine are below... embellished for my rounds in 2009 so far.

Greens In Regulation

35.24%
Chips Up and Down

36.96%
Sand Saves

22.22%
Shots to Fairway

16.10%
Shots to Rough

20.62%
Shots to Bunker

1.04%
Shots to Green

21.28%
Penalties

2.07%
Tee Shots On Target

48.90%
Woods

21.00%
Woods On Target

41.70%
Irons

22.69%
Irons On Target

63.49%
Chips

15.35%
Chips On Target

92.64%
Putts

38.89%
Holes Single Putted or Better--27.31%
Holes Two Putted

63.00%
Holes Three Putted or Worse--9.69%
Average Putts Per Hole

1.82
Average Putts Per Round

32.75
Average Strokes Per Round---85.11
Albatross's

0.00%
Holes In 1

0.00%
Eagles or Better

0.00%
Birdies

5.60%
Pars

37.50%
Bogies

35.78%
Double Bogies or Worse

21.12%

ShriekingSheet · 27-04-2009 10:50am

Yeah, I've just started embellishing scores (horrible phrase if you ask me!) since last week. I've been paying for it so might as well. Have an excel sheet I use anyway but if this is handier I might make the switch.

Thing is, I've found the site much, much slower recently and this morning it's been shocking. Seems to be completely down now.

Mr. Larson · 27-04-2009 11:37am

Yeah it's after getting really bad recently which is a shame... t'would put you off using it it's that bad at the moment.

Must be an increase in activity - it's running like a total dog. Probably due the amount of clubs uploading data from the weekend, hopefully they will sort it out, they have to be aware of it. Last year before they upgraded the site it was running like lightening and we used to get score uploads/handicap change alerts at about 8:30 on a Sunday evening for the Sunday comps.

Incidentally, I'm using a spreadsheet solution too, which goes into way more customised detail (personal stroke index for each hole etc.) but one of them will have to give as I can't be arsed updating 2 seperate trackers... if the site keeps this up it will be Excel all the way.

Mr. Larson · 27-04-2009 11:59am

Seems to be back up and running 'o.k.'

ShriekingSheet · 27-04-2009 12:11pm

Jabberwocky wrote: »

if the site keeps this up it will be Excel all the way.

Absofrickinloutely

PhilipMarlowe · 27-04-2009 1:14pm

I tried to log in last night and it was having 'issues' but that is unusual for the site.
Have to agree that 'embellishing' is a terrible word... I'd think of an embellished round as one where you were creative with the pencil and forgetful of some of the shots you actually took...

Blunder · 27-04-2009 3:29pm

I use the Stats package and its a great Idea and a great way of keeping track of your rounds. I had about a hundred rounds on an excel sheet on my last laptop which got stolen so I lost the lot. At least these will be centrally kept.

In relation to How Did I Do....I don't know if all clubs do this but every evening I get an email to let me know where I finished that day and a list of everyones scores for the day. Does anyone think this is strange? I was brought up being told not to disclose my score, Good or bad, until the competition was completed. I was discussing this with a few mates yesterday who didnt realise that this was happening. I dont have a problem with it, I just thought it was weird considering the policies of old

Mr. Larson · 27-04-2009 3:41pm

Blunder wrote: »

In relation to How Did I Do....I don't know if all clubs do this but every evening I get an email to let me know where I finished that day and a list of everyones scores for the day. Does anyone think this is strange? I was brought up being told not to disclose my score, Good or bad, until the competition was completed. I was discussing this with a few mates yesterday who didnt realise that this was happening. I dont have a problem with it, I just thought it was weird considering the policies of old

I assume you're talking about competitions that go on for more than one day or more than 18 holes? Otherwise the results won't come out until everyone has finished?

In that instance, don't you get grouped/drawn for the next round based on your previous round score? So you can pretty much guess whoever you're playing with got a similar score?

At my club the only comps that are more than one day are either the major comps (like above where there is a draw for day 2) or Team Events (where no score is uploaded into the system anyway) or non qualifier competitions held over 2 days (again where no score is uploaded).

Blunder · 27-04-2009 4:40pm

Jabberwocky wrote: »

I assume you're talking about competitions that go on for more than one day or more than 18 holes? Otherwise the results won't come out until everyone has finished?

In that instance, don't you get grouped/drawn for the next round based on your previous round score? So you can pretty much guess whoever you're playing with got a similar score?

At my club the only comps that are more than one day are either the major comps (like above where there is a draw for day 2) or Team Events (where no score is uploaded into the system anyway) or non qualifier competitions held over 2 days (again where no score is uploaded).

All our weekend open comps are over the two days. ie Saturday and Sunday are for the one prize. You can also play both Saturday and Sunday if you so wish and Monday if it is a bank holiday.

JCDUB · 27-04-2009 11:55pm

Jabberwocky you wouldn't be so kind as to email me your excel sheet would you??
It'd save me a lot of work and seeing as though you knocked me out of the matchplay and all

:D

PM me if that's cool and I'll give you my emaill address.

Nice one.

BUACHAILL · 28-04-2009 8:20am

ahem Jabberwocky ye know the way me and you are mates and all in anyways?? ha ha
May I rob your excel also ??

I am sure I can repay you with a round of golf at some stage !!!!

Codofwar · 28-04-2009 8:54am

Ah jabberwocky im going to jump on the same band wagon as the two posts above me, can I get your excel too. Id love to have something like that and Ill be forever in your debt. Just gimme a pm if you will and ill give you my e-mail address.

Mr. Larson · 28-04-2009 9:47am

No worries folks - PM's on the way shortly...

I will add the rather large caveat though, that it's quite crude... it requires a fair amount of updating and you may not be able to make head nor tail of it! I think Sheet or one of the regular posters shared one out before that was a lot more elegant than mine... or so I thought at the time.

I'll add comments to try and explain the calculations.

It doesn't track G.I.R. or indivdual stats like putting, fairways etc, just scores. I have how-did-i-do for that purpose. This is just around tracking scores on particular holes and scoring statistics.

I have left my scores in just to give you an illustration on how I have been using it. Feel free to PM me afterwards with follow up questions but chances are, you will take a look, say "W.T.F!?" and leave it alone after that!

ShriekingSheet · 28-04-2009 10:09am

Jabberwocky wrote: »

I think Sheet or one of the regular posters shared one out before that was a lot more elegant than mine... or so I thought at the time.

Well, mine is also quite crude but does track:

Average Strokes
Fairways Hit
Greens in Regulation
Putts Per Green In Regulation
% Up and Downs
Your Score on the Par 5s, Par 4s and Par 3s in relation to each other

A few of my own preferences and reasoning behind it:

I don't keep track of total putts - I think it's mostly determined by greens hit and doesn't really measure your putting. If you miss lots of greens and chip decently, you'll have lots of very short putts. If you hit lots of greens in regulation (with 6 irons etc) you'll have more longer putts. So I only count putts per green you hit in regulation.

My % up and down stat is a cruel mistress. I only count it as "1" when it's for a par. If I duff my way up to the green-side and make a good chip and putt, I don't count it as an "up and down". Similarly, if I hit a ball out of bounds, even if I make a 6 on the par 4 with the second ball including a good chip and putt - it's not counted as one.

Barely off the green or off the fairway is OFF. There's no point fooling yourself. Although if you putt from barely off the green and tap in, it is an up and down.

What you need to do to use it:
- Adjust the template to the card on your course
- Fill in the template for each round - fairly self explanitory. An Up and Down is shown as a "1". You put in your score on the hole under the "Shots" and under the appropriate Par column on the right.

Once you've filled it in you go to the Master Stats tab and you'll need some basic Excel know-how to adjust the averages to include your new scores. There's some forumlae in boxes to help but there's some quick manual work to be done.

The Charts tab gives you a visual read-out.

Any questions/comments let me know.

Patrick_K · 28-04-2009 10:28am

Impressive work Sheet.

Just as a matter of interest what is your thinking behind only counting U+Ds when they are for par ?
I track similar stuff to yourself but for U+Ds I track them all irespective of what they're for - my thinking being that a stroke is a stroke (said the actress to the bishop) and I want to try to get U+D wheter its for a 6 or a 4.

Where you record a 1 for an U+D does that mean you made it yeah ?
I'm trying to figure where your U+D % comes from - e.g. on 11th March did you make 4 U+Ds from 6 chances ?

Cheers,
PK

f22 · 28-04-2009 10:41am

Have to say the Howdidido thing is pretty cool, especially the way you can compare your stats against other category 1 players (or any other category for that matter).

Really shows you where you need improvement, although a stroke average of just over 79 for me this season says it all, I'm playing ****e!

BUACHAILL · 28-04-2009 10:45am

Can you only use How did I do if your club is a registered member ?? I dont think my club use this facility

ShriekingSheet · 28-04-2009 11:19am

Patrick_K wrote: »

Impressive work Sheet.

Just as a matter of interest what is your thinking behind only counting U+Ds when they are for par ?
I track similar stuff to yourself but for U+Ds I track them all irespective of what they're for - my thinking being that a stroke is a stroke (said the actress to the bishop) and I want to try to get U+D wheter its for a 6 or a 4.

Where you record a 1 for an U+D does that mean you made it yeah ?
I'm trying to figure where your U+D % comes from - e.g. on 11th March did you make 4 U+Ds from 6 chances ?

Cheers,
PK

Cheers,

Yeah, on the u+d thing, let me start by saying it could be seen as something of a flaw, ie: I'm not sure my way is the right way, but what I was trying to avoid, was the fact that (by what your suggesting) a duffed chip that went one foot, followed by a good chip and putt could be counted as an up and down - given that you say it's unimportant that it was for bogey, not par.

Now of course you could say "well I duffed that so it's not an up and down" but it's not really usable logic in terms of stats IMO.

I guess I could include scenarios when I've hit one out of bounds and chip and putt to make a double bogey... yeah I probably should now that I think of it.

But by that logic, if I play three off the tee on a par 4, and hit the green with my fourth shot - should that count as a GIR???

For me, it doesn't actually matter what decisions you make for the above unless you're trying to compare with others - which I'm not. Once I keep my little rules constant, i can compare against my past stats and trend improvement.

But yeah, valid point alright.

Codofwar · 28-04-2009 12:04pm

Got your e-mail there jabber, cheers for that. Looks fine and impressive to me. I think I have more or less the jist or if. If im stuck I might have to throw an aul question your way.
Thanks again.

Patrick_K · 28-04-2009 12:24pm

Yeah you're spot on, as long as you're consistent in how you record then it doesnt really matter.

I've had the same thought about recording GIR when hitting 3 off the tee and 4 onto the green but my rule on that is that it's not a GIR as it has taken me 4 to get there.

Once I get within what I consider my U+D distance I record that as an U+D attempt, if I duff my first chip and then get up and down I record that as a fail as it has taken me 3 to get U+D.

I reckon you could get too much into this but I think it has its uses. I tend to record my stats on a Monday morning then forget about them and try to practise what I was (particularly) bad at that week if I can.

PK

PhilipMarlowe · 02-10-2009 7:22pm

Chips Up and Down | 56.34%
Average Putts | 31.92 grrrrrr

3 of my home competitions haven't appeared on hdid which is a pity because 1 was a 77, the other two were 75's which would take my average below 76 and probably improve my other stats too... ah well, probably best to keep my own excel records...

Mister Sifter · 02-10-2009 7:44pm

Average Strokes Per Round 75.38
Greens In Regulation 66.08%
Sand Saves 28.57%
Chips Up and Down 45.98%
Average Putts Per Round 33.36 eeek!

G1032 · 03-10-2009 7:42pm

I just use my own excel sheet. Have been using it for the last 2 years. Here are overall stats for 2 years:

Gross: 76.15 - (Par 70)
Nett: 71.15
Points: 34.93
Putts: 30.65
GIR: 8.01 (44.5%)
Fairways: 5.77 (39.74%)
3 putts: Three 3 putts every four rounds.
Greenside up/down: 55.61% (Does not include sand saves)
Sand Saves: 45.94%
Birdies: 1.59 per round
Pars: 9.59 per round
Others (DB or worse): 0.875 per round
Par 3's - 1.4 over par
Par 4's - 1.71 over par
Par 5's - 1.75 over par
Birdie Conversion Rate - 19.96% (Based on amount of birdies scored per GIR)

I have had 7 rounds in the 80's, with a high of 83, which don't really help the stats much.
Too many 'others' as well. Need to cut them out.

jtown · 18-10-2011 12:19pm

G1032 wrote: »

I just use my own excel sheet. Have been using it for the last 2 years. Here are overall stats for 2 years:

Gross: 76.15 - (Par 70)
Nett: 71.15
Points: 34.93
Putts: 30.65
GIR: 8.01 (44.5%)
Fairways: 5.77 (39.74%)
3 putts: Three 3 putts every four rounds.
Greenside up/down: 55.61% (Does not include sand saves)
Sand Saves: 45.94%
Birdies: 1.59 per round
Pars: 9.59 per round
Others (DB or worse): 0.875 per round
Par 3's - 1.4 over par
Par 4's - 1.71 over par
Par 5's - 1.75 over par
Birdie Conversion Rate - 19.96% (Based on amount of birdies scored per GIR)

I have had 7 rounds in the 80's, with a high of 83, which don't really help the stats much.
Too many 'others' as well. Need to cut them out.

Do you have this speadsheet by any chance? would love to start mine.

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