dogs chasing cattle

whelan1

:mad: let out my incalf heifers and bull on tuesday and since then the neighbours dogs have been chasing them round and round the field, there are 3 dogs ..2 years ago i went to them and they tied the dog up there was only 1 them but now there are 3 and they have been in the field all evening called to house and no one there any one got any sensible ideas please i left my number for them to ring me

fig mclough

whelan1 wrote: »

:mad: let out my incalf heifers and bull on tuesday and since then the neighbours dogs have been chasing them round and round the field, there are 3 dogs ..2 years ago i went to them and they tied the dog up there was only 1 them but now there are 3 and they have been in the field all evening called to house and no one there any one got any sensible ideas please i left my number for them to ring me

im not joking but me or any other farmers around me wouldnt think twice about shooting them!!!!!

whelan1

whelan1 wrote: »

:mad: let out my incalf heifers and bull on tuesday and since then the neighbours dogs have been chasing them round and round the field, there are 3 dogs ..2 years ago i went to them and they tied the dog up there was only 1 them but now there are 3 and they have been in the field all evening called to house and no one there any one got any sensible ideas please i left my number for them to ring me

You have quiet cattle.....mine would be terrorising the dogs.

What can you do only move them until the neighbour gets home.

whelan1

why should i move my cattle away from my land these dogs are trespassing i wouldnt like to shoot them but these people are away all day and the dogs can do what they like:(

fig mclough

if you were two put up a line of wire a foot and a half off the ground (where there geting in) and make it live, once they get a belt of it they might go away!!! Not saying this will work!!!!

lancerwall

woundnt shoot them after cattle with sheep it would be different, would say it to your neighbour about the getting the gaurds and dog pound involved if it happens again, espically with an incalf heifers

snowman707

whelan1 wrote: »

why should i move my cattle away from my land these dogs are trespassing i wouldnt like to shoot them but these people are away all day and the dogs can do what they like:(

Why won't you shoot them? you are legally entitled to do so.

Believe me as a sheep farmer I can tell you it is the best solution, I tried the dog warden, the guards & like you calling to houses, got pissed off & adapted a shoot on sight any dog entering the farm. Not only did I do myself a favour but also stopped all dogs following children on bicycles & cars in the neighbourhood, the postman even thanked me.

whelan1

might ring dog warden and see what they say..... not goin to let it go on all year

convert

It's so maddening when people leave their dogs out when they aren't there - they have no idea what their dogs get up to and won't believe it when you tell them they were chasing cattle/sheep.

I found dogs on our land a few years back - they started chasing the horses when I was exercising them in the field.

I put a string around one of the dog's necks and brought them back to the owners. Before I asked them if they were their dogs, I told them I found them in the fields chasing the horses. I then politely asked if they were their dogs and put it along the lines that I was doing them a big favour bringing them back as it would be awful if they wandered even further and ended up being shot by another farmer. They thanked me but excused it saying that they were young dogs and new to the area (even though one of them was clearly an old dog, with arthritis and tumours!!!). In fairness, they haven't been back since.

If the dogs continue causing hassle, you could try catch them and lock them in a stable if you have one. Then call the owners and ask them to collect their dogs. That way they can't deny they were on your land. If they don't, call the dog warden.

Shooting is an option, but if you want to keep good relations with your neighbours, only use it as a last restort, even if you are entitled to do it.

whelan1

ye i have to think of the long term consequences here they are relatively new to the area

Turbury

Shoot the dogs - One injured heifer or one aborted calf - money out of your (now heavily taxed) pocket.

irish_bob

lancerwall wrote: »

woundnt shoot them after cattle with sheep it would be different, would say it to your neighbour about the getting the gaurds and dog pound involved if it happens again, espically with an incalf heifers

complainng to the guards will only result in one certain thing , the guards uttering thier 4 favourite words , THATS A CIVIL MATTER

i would go to the owners and tell them you will hold them personally responsible should any ill health befall your cattle

if they tell you where to go , just FEED the dogs

reilig

irish_bob wrote: »

complainng to the guards will only result in one certain thing , the guards uttering thier 4 favourite words , THATS A CIVIL MATTER

i would go to the owners and tell them you will hold them personally responsible should any ill health befall your cattle

if they tell you where to go , just FEED the dogs

I agree. Crunched up light bub is tasty on a bit of steak (just like pepper). It would solve your problem in a matter of hours.

whelan1

rang dog warden i am fully entitled to shoot them next time they are on my property ... said once i had notified the council i am legal..

Vegeta

You should only shoot them as a last resort and as far as I know you have to notify the gardai within 48hrs of doing it to be fully legal

wiggy123

shoot them!
do no good that running around-they heavy incalf...
may keep a watch on them-if they are..stress is bad for them!

JohnBoy

talk to the neighbours but give them only one chance.

then shoot on sight.

or get a charolais cow or two in there.

my parents dog used chase our tenants bullocks from time to time until they brought some suckler cows in one day.

It gave me great pleasure to watch him get his comeuppance from a big protective charolais cow. it was like she planned it, let him chase her till they had a bit of speed up then slowed of a shot and pucked him straight in the head.

didnt see him for hours and he's never looked sideways at an animal again

pakalasa

Yeah.
Cows with young calves will attack dogs. I found a yound guy walking through your field last year with his retriver on a lease. The cows huddled together in a bunch protecting the calves. One mad red limousine bitch then suddenly broke away and charged them. He let go of the lease and she tried to pin the dog to the ground. Gave me some fright too I can tell you. I thought she was going for him.
We have a "right of way" across our land which doesn't help.

The_Conductor

pakalasa wrote: »

Yeah.
Cows with young calves will attack dogs. I found a yound guy walking through your field last year with his retriver on a lease. The cows huddled together in a bunch protecting the calves. One mad red limousine bitch then suddenly broke away and charged them. He let go of the lease and she tried to pin the dog to the ground. Gave me some fright too I can tell you. I thought she was going for him.
We have a "right of way" across our land which doesn't help.

A 'right of way' does not extend to walking dogs on farmland- regardless of people's thoughts on the matter. Once you brought the dog into the field- you are liable for anything that may happen, and the farmer would be legally entitled to bring a civil suit against you, if the cow injured itself while chasing the dog, in defense of its calf. A right of way is an entitlement, but it also entails responsibilities. Bringing a dog for a walk in a field with young calves is stupidity.

Tableman

Cows with young calves will attack dogs.

They could attack humans too.

I wouldnt shoot them straight away as it could lead to "issues" with the owners. Try to get the owners to tie them first. If they wont do it, then you have no option...

Oldtree

If you are prepared to take a lead into the field along with a few pieces of cheese it shouldn't be too difficult to catch the dogs, don't chase them let them come to you. Then chain them up in a shed and wait until the owners come to you. Ask them why their dogs are allowed to wander freely and explain the possible impacts and inform them that they are legally liable for the dogs actions and that you are legally allowed to shoot the dogs if they come onto your lands again. Tell them you do not want to do this but if the situation is forced you will have to protect your livelyhood. Dogs wandering also represent a threat to local children. You have no choice if you have bent over backwards for the new commers. they will have to learn the hard way. It is not appropiate to allow their ignorance to affect your business, nor should you worry about future relationships, as if after talking to them they do not take responsibility for the dogs then you have a good indication of what type of people you are dealing with.

In my area here there is no tolorance for wandering dogs and everyone knows that. end of story. I keep my inherited sheep dog on a very long chain which allows him to wander around the house, on the grass and to bark at passing cars. I take him for long walks when I can or working with me. I know he will be shot if i do not take responsibility for his life, and I like my dog.

have the owners a licence for the dogs?

whelan1

dog warden said shoot on site ... i am lying in wait .. they werent out yesterday at all ... dog warden called to the house ... they are never at home

thecornerboy

reilig wrote: »

I agree. Crunched up light bub is tasty on a bit of steak (just like pepper). It would solve your problem in a matter of hours.

Shame on you.Evil and Disgusting. Be a man and shoot them if you need to, don't torture them.

mikemac

reilig wrote: »

I agree. Crunched up light bub is tasty on a bit of steak (just like pepper). It would solve your problem in a matter of hours.

Let me be the second to quote this, that's pretty sick and a terrible way to die as their insides get shredded.

OP, call up o the garda station. Maybe they will ignore you but in a rural area they are probably well used to this for years and years from different farms and different neighbours. A bread & butter issue to use a term

Let the local garda pay the owner a visit.

If it happens again, then shoot the dogs, you know it's the best way

whelan1

i just got a phone call to say they are in the field again but i have just drank 2 cans of beer .. also the owner is gardening want to wait until ia m sober and he is at work

whelan1

just out of interest what do you poison them with .. think shooting is better sort of speak ..

whelan1

whelan1 wrote: »

i just got a phone call to say they are in the field again but i have just drank 2 cans of beer .. also the owner is gardening want to wait until ia m sober and he is at work

Have you not spoken to the owner at all yet?
Ffs tell the dogs owners first.
They shouldn't be letting the dogs out while they are away all day during the week.

whelan1

i have left messages at his house he is away fom early til 9 pm ... the dog warden called yesterday .. i spoke to his (ex) wife yesterday and explained it how much notice does he want ffs ... the dogs can do what they want all day while he is away

The_Conductor

This thread is now closed.
OP- talk to the owners- if they continue to hassle your livestock- shoot them.
I know poisoning is becoming more and more common- but thats it for the discussion on the matter in this venue.

Regards,

SMcCarrick