Opinions on the New Rules

Mr. Incognito

Now that the league is over and before Central Council gets together to throw their hands up on it what are people's opinions.

I see the GPA had a text vote and 80% of intercounty players were against them. I think their gripe is the onconsistnecy of the rules being applied and I have to say I agree. There are a number of incidents this year when they have not been applied in similisr situations in the same match by the same ref nevermind the approach across all the games.

I liked the idea but to be honest they need to sort out the consistency and approach of the referees for this to work. It's a bit of a stinker too being sent to the line and missing an entire championship game for a minor infringment.

DDC1990

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Now that the league is over and before Central Council gets together to throw their hands up on it what are people's opinions.

I see the GPA had a text vote and 80% of intercounty players were against them. I think their gripe is the onconsistnecy of the rules being applied and I have to say I agree. There are a number of incidents this year when they have not been applied in similisr situations in the same match by the same ref nevermind the approach across all the games.

I liked the idea but to be honest they need to sort out the consistency and approach of the referees for this to work. It's a bit of a stinker too being sent to the line and missing an entire championship game for a minor infringment.

Thats the thing, most of the rules are fine, and people aren't being sent off for minor incidents.
But what are they doing dropping "Grappling with an opponant off the ball" from a yellow card to a black???
That rule was the main reason I supported the rules! Its fustrating seeing your team's forwards being pulled and dragged around the pitch for the game, and it negates a lot of the skill element of the game.
Defenders complain and say they can't get to grips with the forwards with these new rules... thats exactly why the rules were brought in, to get rid of the overley physical and cynical plays that have been common place since the new Millenium.
Its still possible for a defender to get on top of the forward, look at Tom O'Sullivan vs Michael Meehan the last Kerry Galway game, he kept Meehan to a couple of points from play, without pulling him. He read the game, got out in front etc. like a good defender should.

So yes, I am in favour of the new rules. Not simply because they would benifit teams with class forwards (i.e Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone, Galway) but because it would make the game faster and more attractive to watch.

The next step would be to eradicate the Handpass. Even (actually especially) my beloved Kerry have fallen into a habit of handpassing the ball 20 times before getting the ball in midfield and playing it into the forwards.

Hitman Actual

DDC1990 wrote: »

Thats the thing, most of the rules are fine, and people aren't being sent off for minor incidents.
But what are they doing dropping "Grappling with an opponant off the ball" from a yellow card to a black???

I recall someone saying (Nicky Brennan, I think) that they believed, on review, that this rule could be too easily exploited to have a star opposition player sent off. I'd need to see a link to be sure though.

The two main problems I have are:

1. The punishment is too harsh. A sin-binning is more appropriate for a cynical foul, imo, and...

2. I haven't been convinced that they are needed in hurling.

Edit to add: Another obvious but big problem would be club teams not having enough subs for 5 potential yellow cards, should the rules be applied at club level. And whatever about the consistency of refereeing at IC level, at club level it can be very poor at times. There could be a lot of very 'heated' club games.

blackbelt

I'm against them,

How on earth are they going to implement this at intercounty level without implementing this at club level.It confuses referees and causes complications.
The referees have not applied them consistently.One particular match in Croke Park proved this when Marty Duffy blatantly refused to punish some Tyrone players from persistent fouling in the last 5 minutes when Dublin nearly had them.

So for this reason,if top referees can't/won't apply them in big matches,they shouldn't be applied in any instance or match.The old rules were fine.It was the players who were at fault and should pay the penalty for any red card or for 2 yellow cards.

Daysha

For hurling, completely against them.

Don't try and fix what isn't broken.

Daysha

The experimental rules trialled during the National Football and Hurling leagues will not be retained for the GAA Championship.

In a vote taken at the GAA Annual Congress in Cork today, the motion to adopt the new rules failed to get a two-thirds majority.

There were 177 votes for the motion, with 100 against.

Earlier this week, the Gaelic Players' Assocation came out against the adoption of the new rules.

A statement released by the GPA on Tuesday said: 'The GPA has consulted with its members regarding the new rules being applied to football and hurling and the vote for their continuation at GAA Congress next weekend.

'The majority of the respondents (82 per cent) were opposed to the continuation of the rules. In light of this result, we are urging all County Boards to consult with their county squads if they have not done so already, before finalising their vote for Congress.

'While the GPA understands the difficulties in addressing disciplinary issues within the games and acknowledges the significant efforts made by administrators in this regard, this poll clearly outlines the level of dissatisfaction among the playing body with the new rules.'

Christy Cooney is being inaugurated as the new President of the GAA at today's Congress. He takes over from Nickey Brennan.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2009/0418/gaarules.html