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In love with foreigner

  • 15-04-2009 9:43pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Im totally in love with a foreign girl, a Russian girl in Moscow.

    Met her while out partying with friends after the champions league last year and ive been over 3 times to see her since.

    Talk to her everyday for a couple of hours, we get on so great. Shes totally amazing, same intrerst in music, shes so funny, loving and we get on so well.

    We cant live without each other, but realistically is there any hope?

    im 28 and shes 25, we've both been in long term relationships before.

    i just cant live without her, i have a great job here and could never move over to her and due to visa etc she could never move here, so what can be done? Anyone been in this situation before and know any advice? I dont know what to do, it costs me a fortune to go see her so at most can only do it a few times a year, but i need to see her more!!

    Ah what to do??


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭sardineta


    You won't move and she can't, so it's doomed.

    Of course, she may have a cunning plan as to how you could help her with her visa problem...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    One of you will have to move. I reckon it should be you. We cant afford her :D Jokes aside with a hugh economy I imagine you'll get a job there. If you learn the language you will always get an Interpreters job,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭spongeman


    You can bring her over mate but you would need a marriage certificate.

    She would get a spouse of Irish citizen visa from the Irish Embassy and then register here. After 3 one year visas then she can apply for citizenship.

    Been there done that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭spongeman


    She should move here. You w'ont find much there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    As others have said, you could get married, but it's quite a commitment to make, and you'd want to be sure you want to make it. However, if you truly love this girl, it's surely worth it?

    You could alternatively just get a civil marriage, and then have a ceremony or a blessing of said marriage at a later stage.

    Think about it. It sucks that things such as visas have to limit movement in a modern world. It's funny that people rarely think about the casualties that are on the ground as a result of political decisions.

    Good luck OP.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Hey OP ,reading your situation reminds me of the true story of the RAF pilot just before ww2 , who on a vist to russia fell in love with this russian girl .Now if memory serves me right ( and I only read this story recently ) his visa to russia ran out and he had to leave and go back to UK . He then (unofficially ) decided to fly over to russia in his plane and marry her :D

    He flew short of his destination in russia , was captured /detained and once again deported .However, ......... love has no boundries and he eventually got the papers to go back to russia were he met his lover . They eventually married with him becoming a russian citizen .Cant remember the book but it was only recently released

    There is hope ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭spongeman


    Its not easy marryng non Eu. But d'ont give up your job as you will have to show you can support her if she makes her visa application.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭Buzz Buzz


    Can she not get a student visa to study english? It allows you to work 20 hours a week too I think. It would be a start anyway. I met a girl on the bus the last from Muritius(sh*t spelling, cant be arsed googling to correct it), and shes on a student visa but works full-time. Just a thought ya know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭Tirabaralla


    Awwwww...romantic!

    Student or turistic visa and try to live together here for a while? Cause it's always really different from a long distance relationship and you maybe would be happy to "test" the situation and to spend much more time together, finally a more relaxed and "everyday-life" time.

    I am a foreigner myself and I am kind of frightened at the idea of really falling in love with a local guy (almost been there), even if I am from EU the idea of the huge life change etc is hard to take.

    Good luck ^_^


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭hannable80


    ud be well advised to stay clear she could be in it for the (dole) money


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    Carpe diem, seriously man do whatever it takes! Do you want to look back at your life in 40 years and say what if?

    Bring her here or go over, its only 5 hours away..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭spongeman


    A tourist visa will give up to 3 months max.

    A student visa is a less attractive option financially. You have to have access to 7,000 euros in the bank, and pay for a course of at least 5,000 to 7,000 to get a student visa.

    Things have tightened up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Na she aint in it for the dole money, its not like she'd apply or get it anyway. I'd be able to support her till shes sorted if she did come. She doesnt have an intrest in money, even when im with her she is far to proud to have a penny spent on her and is no way materialistic.

    Marriage is such a massive commitment, as crazy as i am about her at this stage its still a bit crazy methinks!

    She studies English so a student visa may be an option for us to look into, just to get her over here for a while and see how we get on. Shes mad into getting me to go live there and has looked into getting me a job teaching English! i love the place, but lviing there, i dont think so!!

    its her getting a visa to come here thats the main problem, shes finished uni this year and may have a job in Czech Republic, obviously she'd love to come here but with no job she wont and she aint gonna get a job here. Ireland is very hard for them to enter apparently.

    So therefore marriage is probably the only option, but just think that may be to crazy at this stage....arrrrgggghhhh its all so dam head wrecking!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭Tirabaralla


    spongeman wrote: »
    A tourist visa will give up to 3 months max.

    A student visa is a less attractive option financially. You have to have access to 7,000 euros in the bank, and pay for a course of at least 5,000 to 7,000 to get a student visa.

    Things have tightened up.

    3 months together is much more than chatting or talking via skype, I'd say.

    I dunno if she could apply for a mature student programme, since she is more than 23 but she from outside EU.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭numanuma


    Privet,

    Dont be negative at all. There are numerous options. If she has a job lined up in Czech it is a schengen visa which will allow her residency within the EU except Ireland and UK. As far as I know this is tied to the employer.

    But doing this will look good on her record. Holding and abiding by visas will influence her application for visas in Ireland. Your commitment is really what will determine everything. If you want her to visit Ireland and get a feel for the place apply for the tourist visa. You will need to do a lot of paperwork both in Moscow and in Dublin. You will have to vouch for her and submit documents to Dept. of Justice. Mainly that she wont ditch the visa.
    Once you get the first one the others can follow easier. and remember if the visa is denied which a friend of mines was, you can appeal, which I did and it was successful.

    If you are really committed I would say enrol her in part time studies in Dublin. DBS etc have good international student departments who can help her throughout the process. This will allow her to come here and study i.e. giving her some independence and also precious time with you. Also you would not be the guarantor so if it doesnt work out your not affected.

    I have done long distance for a huge part of my life and I will tell you that when you are apart, everything is great. You only have enough time to experience the best of everything, especially when you meet. But once you start living together you need to understand that you have not spent enough time together to experience a big conflict. You need to keep the head and stay strong and you will get through it.

    Okey dokey, enough from me.

    Dasvidanya!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Na she aint in it for the dole money, its not like she'd apply or get it anyway. I'd be able to support her till shes sorted if she did come. She doesnt have an intrest in money, even when im with her she is far to proud to have a penny spent on her and is no way materialistic.
    And even if she was she wouldn't get it... My wife is non-EU and in the time between her moving here and getting a job we weren't able to get any financial assistance, despite needing it badly. Contrary to popular belief they don't just hand out cash once you have the right stamp on your passport.


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