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Can anyone help me on grammar?

  • 14-04-2009 11:21pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭


    Need some advice on grammar of poems, can you help?

    Thankyou


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    What seems to be the problem?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Affable


    Not sure where to start. I want to enter a poetry competition.
    I have it all written out but can't grammar it right(!)

    Where to put capitals.
    Where to put commas.
    Where to have full stops or just end a line with nothing.
    Whether you can have commas midline/mid-sentence?
    Whether you should capitalise the start of every line, and if that depends on whether you are following a concept, or ending a phrase.:confused:


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Affable wrote: »
    Not sure where to start. I want to enter a poetry competition.
    I have it all written out but can't grammar it right(!)

    Where to put capitals.
    Where to put commas.
    Where to have full stops or just end a line with nothing.
    Whether you can have commas midline/mid-sentence?
    Whether you should capitalise the start of every line, and if that depends on whether you are following a concept, or ending a phrase.:confused:

    Bold font: I've seen plenty of poetry that seems to ignore the usual conventions regarding full stops and capital letters. It can often be a feature of the individual writer's style. While it may take some time to work out which lines run and which come to a stop at the line's end, it is nontheless possible to create good poetry without full stops at the ends and capital letters at the start.

    Under-lined font: 1) capital letters for names of people, places, names of films/songs/books, trade-marked products and companies. Some people also like to use capital letters to indicate when the use of a noun indicates a concept rather than just the noun itself (e.g. it was Fate/ it was his fate).

    2) I'd usually use commas to separate individual themes/ideas within a single sentence, but once again it's possible to get away with inconsistant use if you defend it with artistic license ;) Commas can certainly be used mid-line, but this may affect the flow of how the line is read. Be sure to read the poem out loud to yourself, or a voluntary audience, and decide if the poem sounds more fluid with the comma or without it.


    For more specific advice you might want to post up the exact parts of your poems that are causing you trouble. I'd be happy to take a look at them via PM if you'd prefer not to put them up for general viewing, but you'd get much broader feedback if more people got to see them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭MissyN


    I don't think you should get too bogged down with the commas and full stops and all that. Thats the beauty of something like this, it leaves the poem open to interpretation by the reader and they are your words and they should just flow as you see fit I think. But I'm no expert :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Dynamic Grammar


    Dynamic Grammar here to help!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Affable


    Dynamic Grammar here to help!!

    OK, is it really important, because I don't want what would have been a good entry into a poetry competiton to be hampered by grammar ****ed-upness?

    Do I need to be strict, and if so, on the above, what should I do?

    Would most appreciate help just to check with anyone else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Dynamic Grammar


    lol thats just me group name man, thought it was funny at the time....in any case, i still know what your asking...and id say it would depend on the compition....is it for school, collage, news paper, readers group ect...to some people it means alot...I posted a poem here awhile back, which was a pretty nice piece of writtingg but some guy got on givin me abuse becouse my grammar was'nt up to his standards!! its a forum for god sake lol...to me tho, it would only ever be about what the poem says and how its said and I wouldnt care about grammar but again, im not everyone or judgin a compition for that matter!!! sorry i couldn be more help


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