Ufc97 Predictions?

Kent Brockman

Anyone want to have a go at this, just for a bit of intrest?
I dont know all the fighters so will do a bit of research and then make my predictions:

Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites Silva TKO

Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua Shogun TKO

Brian Stann vs. Krzysztof Soszynski Stann TKO

Cheick Kongo vs. Antoni Hardonk Congo KO

Luis Arthur Cane vs. Steve Cantwell Cane KO

Denis Kang vs. Xavier Foupa-Pokam Xavier Sub

Jason MacDonald vs. Nate Quarry Mac Sub

Ed Herman vs. David Loiseau Loiseau TKO

Eliot Marshall vs. Vinny Magalhaes Marshal Dec

Mark Bocek vs. David Bielkheden David Dec

T.J. Grant vs. Ryo Chonan Grant Sub

Sam Stout vs. Matt Wiman Wiman Dec

unknown13

Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites - Stop him before the 4th

Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua - by Split Decision

Brian Stann vs. Krzysztof Soszynski - hard to call

Cheick Kongo vs. Antoni Hardonk - Stop him but not sure about the round.

Luis Arthur Cane vs. Steve Cantwell - wins by tight decision

Denis Kang vs. Xavier Foupa-Pokam - wins by submission

Jason MacDonald vs. Nate Quarry - will knock him out

Ed Herman vs. David Loiseau - dont care how he wins but once he beats him

Eliot Marshall vs. Vinny Magalhaes - hard to call

Mark Bocek vs. David Bielkheden - Bielkheden ain't much and Bocek should win in a one sided fight

T.J. Grant vs. Ryo Chonan - wins by decision

Sam Stout vs. Matt Wiman

agardiner22

Kent Brockman wrote: »

Anyone want to have a go at this, just for a bit of intrest?
I dont know all the fighters so will do a bit of research and then make my predictions:

Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites Silva TKO

Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua Shogun TKO

Brian Stann vs. Krzysztof Soszynski Stann TKO

Cheick Kongo vs. Antoni Hardonk Congo KO

Luis Arthur Cane vs. Steve Cantwell Cane KO

Denis Kang vs. Xavier Foupa-Pokam Xavier Sub

Jason MacDonald vs. Nate Quarry Mac Sub

Ed Herman vs. David Loiseau Loiseau TKO

Eliot Marshall vs. Vinny Magalhaes Marshal Dec

Mark Bocek vs. David Bielkheden David Dec

T.J. Grant vs. Ryo Chonan Grant Sub

Sam Stout vs. Matt Wiman Wiman Dec

I would be almost the same as above except for Kang tko and Magalhaes sub and Quarry by dec.
other than that cant wait to see the spider in action again.

Kazooie

Looking forward to this.

Seems like ages since the last UFC. Hope to god Shogun will be back to his old self. Have a felling this fight V Chuck will be a war.

Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites: Silva by Triangle

Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua: Shogun by Decision

Brian Stann vs. Krzysztof Soszynski: Dunno

Cheick Kongo vs. Antoni Hardonk: Hardonk by Decision

Luis Arthur Cane vs. Steve Cantwell: Cane by TKO

Denis Kang vs. Xavier Foupa-Pokam: Kang by TKO

Jason MacDonald vs. Nate Quarry: Quarry by Decision

Not sure about the rest.

dunkamania

Not going to do all of them, I would bet that Leites doesnt make it out of the 2nd. Anderson has something to prove after the Cote fiasco.

callaway92

Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites

Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua

Brian Stann vs. Krzysztof Soszynski

Cheick Kongo vs. Antoni Hardonk

Luis Arthur Cane vs. Steve Cantwell

BeeSee

after witnessing shogun in dublin and being so disappointed with him, i hope chuck knocks him the expletive out. if shogun aint bothered to train cardio tis what he deserves

Professey Chin

Anyone else look at the countdown? I know its pure propaganda with editing and that but both Shogun and Liddell look good and have trained differently. Liddell stayed with Hackleman but they moved from the Pit to ATT(or just brought att trainers in....come to think of they coulda still been in the pit. Looked familiar) while shogun moved from Curitiba to Sao Paulo so he would be away from his family. Really hope Shogun comes in ready. We all remember what happened to Arona after he beat Wand

ginoginelli

BeeSee wrote: »

after witnessing shogun in dublin and being so disappointed with him, i hope chuck knocks him the expletive out. if shogun aint bothered to train cardio tis what he deserves

Shoguns had two major knee constructions in the past year and a half.. I dont think its a matter of him not been bothered to train, its more that he just wasnt able to..

mark.leonard

Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites Silva TKO

Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua Liddell TKO

Brian Stann vs. Krzysztof Soszynski Krzysztof Dec

Cheick Kongo vs. Antoni Hardonk Congo KO

Luis Arthur Cane vs. Steve Cantwell Cane KO

Denis Kang vs. Xavier Foupa-Pokam Kang Dec

Jason MacDonald vs. Nate Quarry Quarry Dec

Ed Herman vs. David Loiseau Loiseau TKO

Eliot Marshall vs. Vinny Magalhaes Marshal Dec

Mark Bocek vs. David Bielkheden David Dec

T.J. Grant vs. Ryo Chonan Grant Sub

Sam Stout vs. Matt Wiman Stout KO

Fozzy

Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites Leites Sub That's the prediction that I made after Leites' last fight and I'm sticking by it

Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua Liddell TKO

Brian Stann vs. Krzysztof Soszynski Stann Dec

Cheick Kongo vs. Antoni Hardonk Kongo Dec

Luis Arthur Cane vs. Steve Cantwell Cane Dec

Denis Kang vs. Xavier Foupa-Pokam Foupa-Pokam TKO

Jason MacDonald vs. Nate Quarry McDonald Sub

Ed Herman vs. David Loiseau Herman Sub

Eliot Marshall vs. Vinny Magalhaes Marshal TKO

Mark Bocek vs. David Bielkheden Bocek TKO

T.J. Grant vs. Ryo Chonan Chonan Sub

Sam Stout vs. Matt Wiman Stout KO

Nelbert

Bold prediction of . . . . . Silva to win!

BeeSee

ginoginelli wrote: »

Shoguns had two major knee constructions in the past year and a half.. I dont think its a matter of him not been bothered to train, its more that he just wasnt able to..

Surely he shouldnt take a fight that he can't prepare properly for no? maybe he knew colman would gas easier so took the fight. in the build up to it wasnt there rumours that some of the training footage released by shogun was from years gone by? cause everyone taught he looked unreal coming into it.

Hope your right. I'd be very disappointed if Dublin was the real shogun. make or break for him now.


Kongo to win with striking and Loiseau to end it with elbows

Professey Chin

Main Event – UFC Middleweight Championship
Anderson Silva (182) vs Thales Leites (185)

Chuck Liddell (206) vs Mauricio “Shogun” Rua (206)
Cheick Kongo (232) vs Antoni Hardonk (249)
Steve Cantwell (205) vs Luiz Cane (206)
Krzysztof Soszynski (204) vs Brian Stann (206)

Vinicius Magalhaes (204) vs Eliot Marshall (205)
Denis Kang (185) vs Xavier Foupa-Pokam (185)
Jason MacDonald (186) vs Nate Quarry (186)
David Loiseau (185) vs Ed Herman (186)
Mark Bocek (154) vs David Bielkheden (157)
Ryo Chonan (171) vs TJ Grant (169)
Sam Stout (155) vs Matt Wiman (155)

Silva @ 182. Bit mad

ginoginelli

BeeSee wrote: »

Surely he shouldnt take a fight that he can't prepare properly for no?

Possibly, who knows really? He wouldnt be the first fighter to come back too soon. (Mir for example)

Hopefully he's got his cardio sorted for this one anyway, he's such an awesome fighter to watch.

Silva weighing in at 182 is strange.. Would that indicate that he didnt have to cut any weight?

Rumour is he walks around at about 215 normally, gets down to about 200 before the fight, then cuts 15 pounds.. if this is true why would he bother cutting those extra few pounds??

chopperbyrne

Kongo to win and call for a title fight, which he still won't get because he's not marketable enough.

unknown13

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Kongo to win and call for a title fight, which he still won't get because he's not marketable enough.

Sorry, where is UFC's next country there going into but I don't see them bringing Lesnar over if he beats Mir.

All_in_Flynn

Might have a better chance of being seen in this thread!

Lads my Sky digital is after breaking and im afraid that im going to miss ufc tonight :mad::(

Is there anywhere online I can watch it? I dont mind paying if thats the case!

Mods: Im not sure what the rules are in this forum regarding posting links to sites and streams???? I know some forums allow them but please feel free to edit if its breaking the rules

agardiner22

he started cutting weight early to avoid any fatigue like what happened against Cote, Ed Soares his manager said he has never seen him so focused.

Pride Fighter

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Kongo to win and call for a title fight, which he still won't get because he's not marketable enough.

Hardonk is a better kickboxer and jiu jitsu guy and will kick his ass.

Professey Chin

Right now all I can say is

WAR SHOGUN!Knew i should made that bet

amacachi

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

Right now all I can say is

WAR SHOGUN!Knew i should made that bet

What price was he? I wasn't paying any attention to the build up but when I saw tonight that Chuck was fighting I couldn't believe it, he's been past it for a while now.

*EDIT*

Does Silva sell PPVs to casual fans? Dana must be dying to get the title off him somehow. :P

cowzerp

I predict-yawn followed by snore followed by zzzz,s. Worst ufc i can remember.

unknown13

If anyone hasnt seen 97 yet, dont watch Silva / Leites because it is a waste of time watching that fight.

rovert

cowzerp wrote: »

I predict-yawn followed by snore followed by zzzz,s. Worst ufc i can remember.

Obviously you arent a PROPER MMA fan obviously. :pac:

calex71

wasnt a great show over all, normally id be the 1st to stick up for the tactical battle etc but even i found it hard to appreciate those 5 rounds.

That said , the boo's i can understand but some of the other chants where a bit ott, although i wasnt paying to watch the fight and they were.

mirwillbeback

All_in_Flynn wrote: »

Lads my Sky digital Starview Box is after breaking and im afraid that im going to miss ufc tonight :mad::(

fixed that for you

rovert

calex71 wrote: »

wasnt a great show over all, normally id be the 1st to stick up for the tactical battle etc but even i found it hard to appreciate those 5 rounds.

Especially with Goldberg & Rogan's commentary in the background just awful. Way to ruin your creditability guys trying to stick up for it. What was funny was Dana White buried the fight later in the post fight press conference further making them look like fools.

calex71 wrote: »

That said , the boo's i can understand but some of the other chants where a bit ott, although i wasnt paying to watch the fight and they were.

From watching Montreal MMA & Pro Wrestling crowds over the years they are uniquely expressive. I must stay I got a kick out of the GSP chant.

Kazooie

WAR Shogun!

Burkatron

rovert wrote: »

Especially with Goldberg & Rogan's commentary in the background just awful. Way to ruin your creditability guys trying to stick up for it. What was funny was Dana White buried the fight later in the post fight press conference further making them look like fools.

In all fairness do you really think 2 UFC employees are going to bury their own product live on air? Get real, they were just doing their job! Can't figure out what's going on with A. Silva, 2 snorefest's in a row now! He could've buried Leites at any stage lastnight but wouldn't engage. It was the same with Cote but the Predator dos have heavy hands so I can see why Silva would be a little more wary!

*EDIT* Spoiler:

Does Silva sell PPVs to casual fans? Dana must be dying to get the title off him somehow.

So what you're saying is you're a casual fan telling Dana White how he should feel about P4P 1 of (imo) the best fighters in the world? Silva up until the Cote fight has impressively finished all his fights since his UFC debut against Chris Leben! I can definitely see where you're coming from though :rolleyes:

rovert

Burkatron wrote: »

In all fairness do you really think 2 UFC employees are going to bury their own product live on air? Get real, they were just doing their job!

They don’t have bury it out right. Same way they don’t have to defend it to the degree that they were last night when they were in effect burying the crowd's reaction to the fight. There is a tactful middle ground.

Burkatron wrote: »

So what you're saying is you're a casual fan telling Dana White how he should feel about P4P 1 of (imo) the best fighters in the world?

Yes, Dana is an MMA promoter and his job is to feature fights that people will pay to see.

Nothingcompares

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There's something about Anderson Silva i'm beginning not to like. He's starting to remind me of Thierry Henry. Yes he's fantastic, very skillful, does things in the octagon that other people can't do but he's prone to petulance due to frustration. He didn't give Leites an inch when he clearly saw he poked his eye. Next he was going for some mad looking knee stamps. i'd love to see someone with top quality kickboxing beat him now. or anyone.

amacachi

Burkatron wrote: »

So what you're saying is you're a casual fan telling Dana White how he should feel about P4P 1 of (imo) the best fighters in the world? Silva up until the Cote fight has impressively finished all his fights since his UFC debut against Chris Leben! I can definitely see where you're coming from though :rolleyes:

It's casual fans that keep the UFC going, and I'm asking if Silva sells PPVs because I sure as **** wouldn't pay to see him anytime soon.

Burkatron

Nothingcompares wrote: »

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There's something about Anderson Silva i'm beginning not to like. He's starting to remind me of Thierry Henry. Yes he's fantastic, very skillful, does things in the octagon that other people can't do but he's prone to petulance due to frustration. He didn't give Leites an inch when he clearly saw he poked his eye. Next he was going for some mad looking knee stamps. i'd love to see someone with top quality kickboxing beat him now. or anyone.

Kev,

completely agree with you on the Henry comparison. I'm starting to think Silva is bored at this stage as there's no competition for him at 185lbs! I don't agree that he should have given Leites any space after the eyepoke, that's for the ref to pick up on & it didn't effect the outcome of the fight 1 bit! I'd love to see someone put him under pressure, nevermind beat him! I doubt he'll go to 205 as he wont fight Machida if he take's the title!

amacachi wrote: »

It's casual fans that keep the UFC going, and I'm asking if Silva sells PPVs because I sure as **** wouldn't pay to see him anytime soon.

He's had 9 UFC fights and 7 top class displays, so yes he does sell PPV's. It's his last 2 fights that he's been like this!