Sack the Top Irish Bankers

anonymous2009

I found this group on facebook..

Essentially its a petition to get media attention to help sack and or arrest the top Irish bankers for potential fraud committed..

At the very least it warrants an investigation and full transparency, it is not enough to simply seize the developers assets...

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=98367063032

A full vote should be cast on NAMA or National Liability Management Agency as it should be called, before we are pushed into it, at the very least we should have public consultation and informed debate..

Insect Overlord

Quick everybody, run to the hills, before it's too late!

ScumLord

Facebook solves nothing. What you need is an angry mob, pitchforks and flaming sods of turf.

yea cause a facebook petition is really gonna swing the whole "will we investigate?" issue to a "yes" is it.

AlmightyCushion

If you want to influnce political decisions, facebook won't do. In that regards it's as useless as a midget in a getting things off a really high shelf competition.

trout

This petition is a great idea. We should support it.

For a while there, I was thinking the inspired leadership of the goverment WE voted for had a part to play in the current interesting times.

Then I thought it was the possibly something to do with the noble developers who are refusing to pay back their loans to the banks.

Then I thought maybe it was all the people like me and you, who got greedy and decided that too much was never enough.

All that thinking made my head hurt - so I'll blame the bankers too. Fuppers!

Mind you ... maybe I'm as dumb as a bag of spanners.

anonymous2009

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yea cause a facebook petition is really gonna swing the whole "will we investigate?" issue to a "yes" is it.

Well i thought it was a good idea..
If no one does anything do you think that'll be better?

Maybe you agree with the bailout?

Ulysses Gaze

NAMA is a joke and a con-job waiting to happen.

There is a clause in there which essentially assures no transparency. Information that is deemed 'Commercially Sensitive' can't be accessed by you or I even through FOI.

A €90 billion bad, bad joke to be played out with taxpayers cash.

anonymous2009

anonymous2009 wrote: »

Maybe you agree with the bailout?

it's mad how public opinion has descended into a case where if i say "yes", i'm a cúnt.


do you know of an alternative to what is being done right now? i don't agree with anything the government has done up until this point..
but this where we are and whether you like it or not, it's the only way out.

Insect Overlord

anonymous2009 wrote: »

Well i thought it was a good idea..
If no one does anything do you think that'll be better?

Maybe you agree with the bailout?

The Daily Mail today published "proof" that Facebook reduces one's IQ, do you really think the Government will risk their remaining intelligence to read a poll?! :eek:

Saibh

When I checked the facebook link earlier, there was only 6 members, now there is 7

Owe up who joined

anonymous2009

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it's mad how public opinion has descended into a case where if i say "yes", i'm a cúnt.


do you know of an alternative to what is being done right now? i don't agree with anything the government has done up until this point..
but this where we are and whether you like it or not, it's the only way out.

How about the following:

- Fully investigate the boards of all Irish banks for malpractice
- Prosecute any board member if a case can be brought against them
- Put money into the 2 main banks (subject to full debate)
- Ensure the other banks merge or go to the wall
- Do not subsidise the developers and bankers that got us into this mess.

The argument that the banks are 'too big to fail' doesn't wash anymore

How many banks do we need for a stable economy?

Do you think we should bail out 1 bank or all of the banks?

Do you think we will make a return on the 'assets' that are bought with taxpayer money i.e. Is it likely that prices will rise above 2006 peaks?

Terry

ScumLord wrote: »

Facebook solves nothing. What you need is an angry mob, pitchforks and flaming sods of turf.

I don't know. I've almost cured Super AIDS.

sub-x

An extensive email blitz on politicians,counselors and senators would be a much more affective course of action.

Insect Overlord

Terry wrote: »

I don't know. I've almost cured Super AIDS.

*joins cause*

anonymous2009

anonymous2009 wrote: »

How about the following:

- Fully investigate the boards of all Irish banks for malpractice
- Prosecute any board member if a case can be brought against them
- Put money into the 2 main banks (subject to full debate)
- Ensure the other banks merge or go to the wall
- Do not subsidise the developers and bankers that got us into this mess.

The argument that the banks are 'too big to fail' doesn't wash anymore

How many banks do we need for a stable economy?

Do you think we should bail out 1 bank or all of the banks?

Do you think we will make a return on the 'assets' that are bought with taxpayer money i.e. Is it likely that prices will rise above 2006 peaks?

1. i don't care.

2. my initial point was about the influence of a facebook cause.

anonymous2009

sub-x wrote: »

An extensive email blitz on politicians,counselors and senators would be a much more affective course of action.

Very true, although it helps to have a base of like minded individuals to start from, a grass roots campaign if you like..

anonymous2009

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1. i don't care.

.. and people wonder why the country is in the toilet..

anonymous2009

anonymous2009 wrote: »

.. and people wonder why the country is in the toilet..

well what i'm beginning to wonder is how everyone got economics degrees so quickly in the last 6 months.

because without a strong grounding in economics and a good knowledge of financial markets, we all may aswell be talking out our arses.

sub-x

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well what i'm beginning to wonder is how everyone got economics degrees so quickly in the last 6 months.

because without a strong grounding in economics and a good knowledge of financial markets, we all may aswell be talking out our arses.

This is very true case in point Brian Lenihan,need I say anymore.

sub-x

sub-x wrote: »

This is very true case in point Brian Lenihan,need I say anymore.

i see what you did there. :cool:

Rosser

anonymous2009 wrote: »

Do you think we will make a return on the 'assets' that are bought with taxpayer money i.e. Is it likely that prices will rise above 2006 peaks?

They don't need to return to 2006 peakes only to exceed the price they get the property for - likely 40% of the high. Will they exceed this over say 7 years? The chances and history says yes

anonymous2009

Rosser wrote: »

They don't need to return to 2006 peakes only to exceed the price they get the property for - likely 40% of the high. Will they exceed this over say 7 years? The chances and history says yes

40% of the high?

Last I heard the 'haircut' was closer to 15%..

If they're bought for 40% of their book value then possibly.. but then we'll 'have to' recapitalise the banks.. right?

dublinario

As a top Irish banker, naturally I'm against this sacking movement. I'd much rather keep my job, which affords me a lifestyle that you peasants can only dream of. Last night I shared a Jacuzzi with most of the cast of Fair City. It was horrifically cramped, but I've always been prepared to suffer for my decadence.

The ensuing orgy was nothing short of spectacular (until I rolled over and realised I was accidentally pumping that Dolores yoke). If I'm sacked from my super-rich bank job, how the hell will I ever again entice a bunch of 'A' listers like the Fair City crowd out to my sordid sex marathons? You see, you people don't see all the consequences, or appreciate the victims of your mob-rule antics. That's the problem with your kind.

Rosser

anonymous2009 wrote: »

40% of the high?

Last I heard the 'haircut' was closer to 15%..

If they're bought for 40% of their book value then possibly.. but then we'll 'have to' recapitalise the banks.. right?

It will never be 15% or anywhere near it and yes we probably will

anonymous2009

Rosser wrote: »

It will never be 15% or anywhere near it and yes we probably will

Where are you getting 40%?

My source is Goodbody who estimate 15% and yes i realise it's an estimate right now..

Will be interesting to see the final figure..

dotsman

puhleeeeeeze - blaming the banks was so last month. We're blaming Steve Staunton now...

anonymous2009

dotsman wrote: »

puhleeeeeeze - blaming the banks was so last month. We're blaming Steve Staunton now...

Haha! Not far off the irish media approach alright!

Mods: I think this was posted in the wrong forum, maybe you could move to the Irish Economy forum?

Dyr

that tool from the greens was on this morning referring to NAMA as a independent government body..there's an oxymoron for ya.

What confuses me is that we're one of the few countries in europe that still can send debtors to jail, so why arent these **** languishing in the joy as we speak? eh? EH?

anonymous2009

anonymous2009 wrote: »

Haha! Not far off the irish media approach alright!

Mods: I think this was posted in the wrong forum, maybe you could move to the Irish Economy forum?

Mods: Any chance of a move to a more relevant forum like Irish Economy?