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Business Ideas for Idle Land

  • 13-04-2009 4:00pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14


    Anyone have any ideas or examples of success to do with land-non farming.

    Have 30-45acres and looking to start up.....

    All ideas/discussion welcome?....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭leitrim lad


    forestry

    plant it ,it your not going to farm it , they are the only 2 viable options at the minute


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭Tefral


    Anyone have any ideas or examples of success to do with land-non farming.

    Have 30-45acres and looking to start up.....

    All ideas/discussion welcome?....

    Honestly... build a motorsport track... Ireland needs more of them and the killing that can be made on them is unreal. Obviously a good bit of capital is needed up front but it can be made back quite easily.

    Mondello is booked out each week
    prodrift needs tracks
    d-rift needs tracks
    car shows
    drag racing (timed 1/4 mile)
    hot rodding
    Motorbikes
    exhibition days
    etc etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 bestforbargain


    ya the capital needed for it would be huge alright at the moment though, hard to get in current climate would be major drawback?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭Good Karma


    Shooting Range! The traps for the clays are not that expensive! You can then lease it out to management company for development of paintballing, 4 x 4.

    Quad biking is great fun and again you could lease this business out to someone, small start up costs in relation to machinery - they cover their own insurance,etc you just rent them land and machinary.

    If planting, look at willow - I think there is still grants available for this and it harvested every two years, but quite profitable.

    If leasing - potato farming is getting 400 per/acre - so you'd be getting 16k per annum.

    Sticking with recreation, Bog snorking! Well obviously not bog, but you could dig down to the water table and do a irish field snorkling!

    If all else fails........How about a good old housing development, complete with green space and playground! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 bestforbargain


    Good Karma wrote: »
    Shooting Range! The traps for the clays are not that expensive! You can then lease it out to management company for development of paintballing, 4 x 4.

    Quad biking is great fun and again you could lease this business out to someone, small start up costs in relation to machinery - they cover their own insurance,etc you just rent them land and machinary.

    If planting, look at willow - I think there is still grants available for this and it harvested every two years, but quite profitable.

    If leasing - potato farming is getting 400 per/acre - so you'd be getting 16k per annum.

    Sticking with recreation, Bog snorking! Well obviously not bog, but you could dig down to the water table and do a irish field snorkling!

    If all else fails........How about a good old housing development, complete with green space and playground! :D


    Oh i'd be away in a hack already if it wasn't for these pesky green belts, rules out the housing...

    Was thinking bout the paintballing alright but there's three in a 60mile radius and with the big R dunno would people latch on...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    Sell it to me.... I have twenty sterling and twenty euro in my wallet (and a couple of business cards)

    seriously ... why not create,

    - fighting grounds for airsoft/paintballing battles
    - a driving track for off-road vehicles (quads/scrambling bikes/4x4s)
    - plant trees and in a couple of years ...start a business (christmas trees).

    just a couple of suggestions


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭Good Karma


    Well the fact you have quite a good bit of land, you could really develop an 'adventure centre', but gradually so you don't have massive outlay and that the planners don't have a heart attack.

    If you planted small amount of forestry for the 'ambience and adventure' of the paintballing. Also developed a quad track (4-5 acres for this), maybe through up a few stables and do cross country riding or trekking - you could do a multi-tude of things......along with the field snorkling of course! And look at a different sport that we don't have in ireland, to give your place a unique selling point, like an adult clara lara or the likes!

    .....An Airfield? big strip of tarmac and your good to go! A couple hundred quid to land per copter, a couple of thousand per jet!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 bestforbargain


    Good Karma wrote: »
    Well the fact you have quite a good bit of land, you could really develop an 'adventure centre', but gradually so you don't have massive outlay and that the planners don't have a heart attack.

    If you planted small amount of forestry for the 'ambience and adventure' of the paintballing. Also developed a quad track (4-5 acres for this), maybe through up a few stables and do cross country riding or trekking - you could do a multi-tude of things......along with the field snorkling of course! And look at a different sport that we don't have in ireland, to give your place a unique selling point, like an adult clara lara or the likes!

    .....An Airfield? big strip of tarmac and your good to go! A couple hundred quid to land per copter, a couple of thousand per jet!


    Ya not too many multimillionaire's in the locality looking for landing space and airport close enough so that might not run :D

    but good alternative ideas so far


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭Good Karma


    Well if you don't have multimillionaries locally, how about the opposite?

    Do a caravan park or halting site :p

    Nah, but you could do log cabins and some artifical lakes for fishing! Or just the lakes!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    It's all well and good putting out ideas but we need to know what type of land you have and what's the level of access to same?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭amen


    themed park like Brigits garden in Galway. Charge a few euro to enter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 511 ✭✭✭flash harry


    Golf driving range if your near decent catchment area - realtively low set up costs and can be dismantloed in days if you ever get planning permission....

    If American trends are to go by expect to see a lot of these springing up as developers try to make some loot out of their land banks that they are holding to develop when things get better.

    FH


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭byrne0f56789


    Can the land not be farmed? Agriculture is going to be huge due to rising food prices (ask Jim Rogers he's buying up half of Brazil to farm it).

    What about fencing the land and renting it as storage space?

    You might need to buy a crane and hire a security firm but have your customers supply their own containers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    Golf driving range if your near decent catchment area - realtively low set up costs and can be dismantloed in days if you ever get planning permission....

    If American trends are to go by expect to see a lot of these springing up as developers try to make some loot out of their land banks that they are holding to develop when things get better.

    FH

    Every single driving range around dublin is having a very hard time keeping its head above water. Not many people are happy to be spending a few quid to hit golf balls in this economic climate...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 393 ✭✭Kelter


    You really should give us a clue about the location and quality of the land, but failing that....


    Zorbing... looks deadly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 bestforbargain


    Kelter wrote: »
    You really should give us a clue about the location and quality of the land, but failing that....

    top quality land, on the main cork to limerick road which is then 20mins from the main cork to dublin road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 674 ✭✭✭gollyitsolly


    Allotments. Small outlay. Nice return at 200-300 per con acre per year.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭Good Karma


    You get €400 per con acre for spuds.....and you don't have all of suburbia trapsing around your land ....!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 674 ✭✭✭gollyitsolly


    Good Karma wrote: »
    You get €400 per con acre for spuds.....and you don't have all of suburbia trapsing around your land ....!
    You also need machinary, storage shed, bag machine! Plus you have to compete with other growers and the dreaded irish weather:). Allotments are the big thing right now and can only get bigger in this economic climate. There is also scope to sell sheds,tools,manure,plants,seeds..etc. And a coffee/tea shop and bar-b-q area. Wish I had your land;)!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭suey71


    today i paid 285euro for the pleasure of using an allotment for 1 year. on a 60 x 20 foot plot. not quit a farm but enough for me and the family. the guy in charge told me that theyve sold 180 plots in 1 month. its in clonsilla, beech park gardens. thats 51,000 odd grand a year on a ten acre site or there abouts, google it. 285 might sound alot but its only 6euro per week. and the kids are thrilled. havent got a clue what im doing but it'l be fun. i think allotments are the way to go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 674 ✭✭✭gollyitsolly


    suey71 wrote: »
    today i paid 285euro for the pleasure of using an allotment for 1 year. on a 60 x 20 foot plot. not quit a farm but enough for me and the family. the guy in charge told me that theyve sold 180 plots in 1 month. its in clonsilla, beech park gardens. thats 51,000 odd grand a year on a ten acre site or there abouts, google it. 285 might sound alot but its only 6euro per week. and the kids are thrilled. havent got a clue what im doing but it'l be fun. i think allotments are the way to go.
    Touche! I was the first person to buy one there! Did anyone see Richard Corrigan on RTE tonight with his city farm just outside Cork? He had hundreds of applications for people to work on it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭suey71


    hi gollyitsolly. yeah great place, fair play to you. when the wife suggested it i was like aargh im not turning into my dad!!!. but just found out that my dad wouldnt have been interested so im safe. the drive into it reminds me of a tomas hardy novel, and did you know that its rumoured that the crown jewels of ireland, stolen from dublin castle in 1906 are supposedly buried there, so happy digging. sorry for getting off the tread. see you there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Fishing. A lot of people are willing to pay a lot of money to fish in a well stocked lake. Have a look at the UK.
    There is a tourist appeal also so there may be some sort of grant aid available.


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