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Single Father Credits

  • 10-04-2009 8:54am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭


    Hi All, Does anyone know how to go about claiming this tax credit or who is entitled to it?

    My partner had 10 year old daughter with another woman. Her mother has her during the week and we have her 3 weekends a month.

    He pays her maintenance every week-it is not court ordered, it was a private arrangement between them which has worked fine.

    Someone mentioned to my partner during the week about this credit but says he might not be allowed to get it as he is living with me for last 6 years.. I was also wondering if he was entitled to it-would they back pay some of the years?

    And lastly if he gets this credit-would there be some system where they would end up coming after him for more maintenace?

    Any help is greatly appreciated :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Heineken Helen


    Clueless09 wrote: »
    Hi All, Does anyone know how to go about claiming this tax credit or who is entitled to it?

    My partner had 10 year old daughter with another woman. Her mother has her during the week and we have her 3 weekends a month.

    He pays her maintenance every week-it is not court ordered, it was a private arrangement between them which has worked fine.

    Someone mentioned to my partner during the week about this credit but says he might not be allowed to get it as he is living with me for last 6 years.. I was also wondering if he was entitled to it-would they back pay some of the years?

    And lastly if he gets this credit-would there be some system where they would end up coming after him for more maintenace?

    Any help is greatly appreciated :)

    Why would he get single fathers credit when he's not a single father? :confused:

    If it were YOU with the kid, would you expect to get single mother even though you're living with your partner?

    I don't KNOW the answer but it's highly doubtful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭kerrz


    Hi there

    Dont have exact facts and figures for you or the answers to all your questions but he is etitled to tax credits if his child stays with him more than one night a year...as for getting them the best option would be the hr dept or wages dept at his work and get their advice .

    Should have no reflection on his maintenance at all . My friend has an 8 year old daughter and has a private arrangement for maintenance with his daughters mother and is claiming these tax credits also .

    Hope this helps a little ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    Clueless09 wrote: »
    Hi All, Does anyone know how to go about claiming this tax credit or who is entitled to it?

    My partner had 10 year old daughter with another woman. Her mother has her during the week and we have her 3 weekends a month.

    He pays her maintenance every week-it is not court ordered, it was a private arrangement between them which has worked fine.

    Someone mentioned to my partner during the week about this credit but says he might not be allowed to get it as he is living with me for last 6 years.. I was also wondering if he was entitled to it-would they back pay some of the years?

    And lastly if he gets this credit-would there be some system where they would end up coming after him for more maintenace?

    Any help is greatly appreciated :)

    Hi, it's all easily done and can be (or at least could be) done over the phone. Just tell your partner to phone the tax office and ask for the single parent credit (I think that's what it's called?). You can also do all of this online via the ros.ie service, once your partner signs up for the ros.ie service and gets his pin number (if he doesn't already have it) then he can amend his details and edit in the part to claim the single parent credit himself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭Clueless09


    hi guys-thanks so much for the replys-greatly appreciated. ;)

    Heineken Helen-you said yourself that you didnt know the answer so why bother with the sarcastic reply?? And by the way single mothers allowance and single person tax credits are two completly seperate issues so why even bring that up? I was talking about a tax credit not a social welfare allowance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭Iago


    kerrz wrote: »
    Hi there

    Dont have exact facts and figures for you or the answers to all your questions but he is etitled to tax credits if his child stays with him more than one night a year...as for getting them the best option would be the hr dept or wages dept at his work and get their advice .

    He's not entitled to credits if he is living with someone else.

    If he is living on his own (or has been for a full calendar year in the previous 5 years) he can claim tax credits for that year as long as his child has spent at least one night of that tax year staying with him.

    However if he is living with someone then he doesn't get that tax credit.


    edit: From the revenue site

    Who can Claim?

    An Individual (whether widowed, single, divorced, deserted, separated) who has a dependent child resident with him/her overnight for all or part of the tax year.



    Conditions to Qualify

    Must not be entitled to the Married Personal Tax Credit.
    Must not be living with another person as husband and wife.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    he's co-hab , so he cant get that tax credit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    The legislation does NOT mention co-habiting, it mentions "must not be living with another person as Husband and Wife"

    So he is perfectly fine to apply for it and IF it is refused, appeal that decision.

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/credits/one-parent-family.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭Clueless09


    thanks for all the replies ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭Offy


    I dont know what the current state is on this issue but a few years ago I got single parent credits. I was co-habituating at the time and I was honest with the tax office about this. Its not the same as single parents allowance, the tax office had different rules to the Department of Family and Social Affears a few years ago but it may have changed since then. Both my ex and I were legally entitled to single parent credits as we shared custody and at the time we were both living with other people. Its worth giving the tax office a ring and asking them as I recieved severl thousand back in over paid taxes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Ticktactoe


    Nehaxak wrote: »
    The legislation does NOT mention co-habiting, it mentions "must not be living with another person as Husband and Wife"

    So he is perfectly fine to apply for it and IF it is refused, appeal that decision.

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/credits/one-parent-family.html

    Living with another person as Husband and Wife does not just apply to a married couple. It means living with another person like husband and wife so basically he does not qualify as he is living with the op for the last 6 years.

    She can appeal on the grounds of the wording above but it will be most definatley refused.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Ticktactoe


    Clueless09 wrote: »
    Hi All, Does anyone know how to go about claiming this tax credit or who is entitled to it?

    My partner had 10 year old daughter with another woman. Her mother has her during the week and we have her 3 weekends a month.

    He pays her maintenance every week-it is not court ordered, it was a private arrangement between them which has worked fine.

    Someone mentioned to my partner during the week about this credit but says he might not be allowed to get it as he is living with me for last 6 years.. I was also wondering if he was entitled to it-would they back pay some of the years?

    And lastly if he gets this credit-would there be some system where they would end up coming after him for more maintenace?

    Any help is greatly appreciated :)

    Hi clueless09

    Unfortunatley your partner is not entitled to the One-parent family tax credit as he was living with you for the period that he is entitled to claim for. If he qualified he would be entitled to claim for the last four years and for the current year have the credit implemented through he wages.
    The form (OP1) specifically asks the question -
    In the year for which this tax credit is claimed are you living
    with another person as husband/wife whether married or not?
    If you answer yes to this question then his claim will not qualify.

    Hope the above is of help. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    If you answer yes to this question then his claim will not qualify.

    Guess what you should answer then ;)

    Unless they can absolutely define what living as a Husband and Wife actually means, you're well within your ability to answer no to that question. It's a stupid question anyway and not defined enough at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    Even if he doesn't qualify for the Single Parent's Credit which he probably isn't as he is "living with a partner" he can qualify for the Married Person's Tax Credit on these grounds as he is paying maintenence. Or even if he does, because you can have both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Ticktactoe


    testicle wrote: »
    Even if he doesn't qualify for the Single Parent's Credit which he probably isn't as he is "living with a partner" he can qualify for the Married Person's Tax Credit on these grounds as he is paying maintenence. Or even if he does, because you can have both.

    He does not qualify for Married person's tax credit as:
    a) He is not married
    B) The maintenance is not under a legally enforceable arrangement and therefore does not qualify to tax relief.

    There is no such thing as a Married persons tax credit! The only difference is that credits can be transferred from one spouse to the other depending on their basis of assessment. After that Revenue deal with 'other income' under different schedules of payments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Heineken Helen


    Clueless09 wrote: »
    hi guys-thanks so much for the replys-greatly appreciated. ;)

    Heineken Helen-you said yourself that you didnt know the answer so why bother with the sarcastic reply?? And by the way single mothers allowance and single person tax credits are two completly seperate issues so why even bring that up? I was talking about a tax credit not a social welfare allowance.

    There was no sarcasm involved... I was just wondering how somebody could claim a 'single' anything when they're not single... seems other people aren't so sure either or are saying the same thing. But hey, good luck to you.


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