Cycler killed in London by truck

bob123456

photo says it all.
Be careful out there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1168705/Woman-cyclist-crushed-death-lorry-turning-busy-roundabout.html

Lumen

Can't really work it out from that picture and story. Was she trapped against the railings, or did she go under the wheels, or one then the other?

Always have an exit strategy that doesn't involve pearly gates.

petethedrummer

There's a disproportionately high number of women killed by trucks turning left. I think someone here had links to an article about it ages ago.

A bike show program about cyclists and trucks.
http://thebikeshow.net/podpress_trac/web/347/0/bikeshow_20081013.mp3

RedPlanet

Lumen wrote: »

Always have an exit strategy that doesn't involve pearly gates.

Tbh it looks like a continuous road, not a traffic light scenario.
Not the usual fatality whereby a cyclist comes up along the inside of the truck that is turning left.

How do we know the cyclist wasn't just cruising along when this truck decided to overtake?

BostonB

RedPlanet wrote: »

Tbh it looks like a continuous road, not a traffic light scenario.
Not the usual fatality whereby a cyclist comes up along the inside of the truck that is turning left.

How do we know the cyclist wasn't just cruising along when this truck decided to overtake?

The witnesses?

Is Cycler a real word?

blorg

It's a roundabout; if you read the article it has witnesses saying the cyclist was behind the truck, tried to undertake, and was caught by the back wheels. Unfortunate situation.

A restaurant worker who saw the accident said: 'She tried to come inside the lorry as it was turning. I don't think he saw her at all because she was right at the back.

'But she was crushed under the rear wheels. It was an awful sight. She was still conscious at first, but really badly injured and bleeding heavily.'

[...] Another man who witnessed the accident said it did not appear to be the lorry driver's fault.

'She came in at the back just as he was turning and he couldn't have seen her,' he said.

lukester

Sad, and scary.

I nearly lost it the other day when a truck, big f-off artic, decided to overtake me just before a left hand bend. I was in the cycle lane (in Ringsend, heading towards town) and knew there was no way he would make the turn without cutting the corner, into the cycle lane. I pretty much stopped dead. Sure enough, if I'd stayed in the cycle lane I would have been mangled- he went right into the lane at the apex of the bend, wheels trundling through the very spot I would have occupied.

I overtook him in traffic and gesticulated like a lunatic, to which he responded with the thousand yard stare of the terminally dim.

SerialComplaint

lukester wrote: »

Sad, and scary.

I nearly lost it the other day when a truck, big f-off artic, decided to overtake me just before a left hand bend. I was in the cycle lane (in Ringsend, heading towards town) and knew there was no way he would make the turn without cutting the corner, into the cycle lane. I pretty much stopped dead. Sure enough, if I'd stayed in the cycle lane I would have been mangled- he went right into the lane at the apex of the bend, wheels trundling through the very spot I would have occupied.

I overtook him in traffic and gesticulated like a lunatic, to which he responded with the thousand yard stare of the terminally dim.

Report him. If it's a company truck, get onto the transport manager or safety advisor. Or just hand it over to the Gardai via the TrafficWatch line. It's not just trucks we have to worry about;

Car hit cyclist from behind, inquest told

wowy

SerialComplaint wrote: »

Car hit cyclist from behind, inquest told

Accidental death? Does that mean that the driver gets away with no more than a slap on the wrist?

BostonB

wowy wrote: »

Accidental death? Does that mean that the driver gets away with no more than a slap on the wrist?

Gets away? It wasn't the drivers fault. Or does that not matter to you?

tunney

A vehicle hit another vehicle from behind. How is that not the fault of the vehicle that struck the other one? In this case the car?

short circuit

RIP ... regardless of whose mistake it was ... its 1 less cyclist on the road ... and her death will probably mean 10 more won't take it up ... so its sad either way.

Lumen

tunney wrote: »

A vehicle hit another vehicle from behind. How is that not the fault of the vehicle that struck the other one? In this case the car?

AFAIK there are specific circumstances required for the Coroners Court to return a verdict of unlawful killing. It may be that the driver could be prosecuted for manslaughter (which is basically a reckless accident) after an "accidental death" verdict by the coroner.

But I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know.

blorg

BostonB wrote: »

Gets away? It wasn't the drivers fault. Or does that not matter to you?

He's refering to the incident where a driver hit a Polish cyclist from behind in Dublin, not the original one in London. That one certainly sounded like it was the driver's fault (unlike the one in London.)

BostonB

My bad I couldn't see that on the iPod.