Dublin Bus Service Changes Sunday April 12th

KC61

Full details of the planned service changes are now available at

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Changes-12th-April/

Due to lower passenger numbers in the current economic climate, Dublin Bus will reduce the number of buses in it’s fleet from 12th April. These changes have been planned to ensure that all areas will continue to have access to the Dublin Bus network and to minimise the impact on peak hour commuters.

Route and timetable changes
The following routes will have altered routing and timetables:


40/a, 40b, 40d
Route 40/40a will be extended to serve Charlestown Shopping Centre. A new Route 240 will replace Route 40b 40c operating from Tubberburr to Deanstown via Finglas Village


45
Route 45 will have a revised timetable and will operate between Bray and Ballsbridge (RDS) only


56/a
Some services will operate Tallaght to Dolphin’s Barn only

103, 104
Routes 103 and 104 will be combined with a revised routing


151
Revised routing via Griffeen Avenue (Lucan) and East Road (Docklands)and revised timetable




Low frequency services withdrawn
The following routes which currently operate a limited timetable will be withdrawn:
15x, 27c, 31c, 49x, 50x, 51a, 58c, 65x, 79x, 86, 115, 117, 129, 172, 201, 202, 206.

Timetable changes
The following routes will have timetable changes, but no changes in routing. In most cases there is a minor adjustment in frequency:
1, 2, 3, 7, 7b, 7d, 11/a, 11b, 13/a, 14, 14a, 17, 18, 19, 19a, 27, 27x, 37, 37x, 38/a, 39/a/c, 39x, 41, 41a, 42a/b, 44/c, 44b, 47, 48a, 50, 51, 51b, 51c, 51d, 51x, 77, 77a, 77x, 78/a, 84x(to Newtownmountkennedy), 84x(to Kilcoole/Newcastle)90, 92, 111, 114, 116, 118, 121, 122, 128, 150, 161, 210.

Dublin Bus will continue to operate a very comprehensive network of services and has made every effort to minimise the impact of these changes on customers. We appreciate your continued support

markpb

KC61 wrote: »

45
Route 45 will have a revised timetable and will operate between Bray and Ballsbridge (RDS) only

This is a strange change. I haven't used this bus in years, perhaps someone more familiar with the loadings could explain it to me, do they fall off a lot after Ballsbridge?

The changes to the 11, 13 and 19 routes are going to hurt the Ballymun road corridor badly - I think it's strange to cut one area so badly.

bearded1

Well it seems that all route 17 mon-fri journeys (bar 1 afaik) will take 80 minutes. Out the window is the sensible timetable that took traffic patterns into account
44 adjusted but not 185 - some 185's linked up with 44's this will no longer be the case.
44b Saturday service only two buses down from SEVEN.
11b cut in half
116,118 cut pretty bad, guess they weren't used much.
No 90 after 10am or on weekends! 92 remains and now has Sunday service though.

Cookie_Monster

KC61 wrote: »

Full details of the planned service changes are now available at

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Changes-12th-April/

It appears to be gone already:rolleyes:

7b, 7d and 111 show no route / frequency chages and no updated timetables either. haven't checked the rest

KC61

It's working for me.

7b is at http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/New-timetables-Route-7b/

7d is at http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/New-timetable-Route-7d/

111 is at http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/New-timetable-Route-111/

You have to use the link from that page for the new timetables Both the new and existing timetables are on the site. If you simply search on the route number as normal it will bring up the current timetable.

dereko1969

i presume in relation to the 45 that the idea is there are so many buses at the rds that people can hop off there and onto another bus.

will there be a need for a change to their tickets then?

with the ending of the travel 90 presumably passengers on this truncated route will be allowed transfer for free onto the 4/4a/5/7 etc how will this be calculated on the ticket machines - if the route only goes so far will the machine be able to sell a ticket for further than the bus is travelling or would the max fare be reached by the rds anyway?

Cookie_Monster

KC61 wrote: »

It's working for me.

7b is at http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/New-timetables-Route-7b/

7d is at http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/New-timetable-Route-7d/

111 is at http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/New-timetable-Route-111/

You have to use the link from that page for the new timetables Both the new and existing timetables are on the site. If you simply search on the route number as normal it will bring up the current timetable.

hmmm... still not there.

The news item goes to 404 error
and the individual links there go to a login page.

If I go to DB site and go to those busses timetables have not been updated since 1/6/2006 etc... wierd

KC61

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

hmmm... still not there.

The news item goes to 404 error
and the individual links there go to a login page.

If I go to DB site and go to those busses timetables have not been updated since 1/6/2006 etc... wierd

V strange because the news story works for me as do the links above.

Go to the home page and follow the link to service changes.

The reason that you are getting the old timetables is because they are still valid. The new timetables have separate links.

KC61

dereko1969 wrote: »

i presume in relation to the 45 that the idea is there are so many buses at the rds that people can hop off there and onto another bus.

will there be a need for a change to their tickets then?

with the ending of the travel 90 presumably passengers on this truncated route will be allowed transfer for free onto the 4/4a/5/7 etc how will this be calculated on the ticket machines - if the route only goes so far will the machine be able to sell a ticket for further than the bus is travelling or would the max fare be reached by the rds anyway?

The Travel 90 has not ended - it is available as a smart card.

I would imagine that, like the 47, a new ticket would be required for cash paying passengers for each portion of the journey.

With the introduction of the 145 and 4A routes, the numbers travelling on the 45 to/from the city has apparently fallen significantly.

Cookie_Monster

here's what i see (attached)

Anyone else having this problem???

KC61

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

here's what i see (attached)

Anyone else having this problem???

That's not what I'm getting - sounds like it's not refreshing on your pc somehow.

Mimikyu

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Mimikyu

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MOH

Works fine for me. This probably explains why the site was down most of last night. Basic concepts like putting up a temporary page explaining the downtime seem to be lost on DB.

Jip

KC61 wrote: »

56/a
Some services will operate Tallaght to Dolphin’s Barn only

This is another odd one, haven't got it in years but from when I did there wasn't a large drop in passenger numbers at the barn, sure it's only another 5 or 10 minutes into the city centre from there so what's the point ?

loyatemu

KC61 wrote: »

With the introduction of the 145 and 4A routes, the numbers travelling on the 45 to/from the city has apparently fallen significantly.

for the same reason, I can't understand why they don't truncate the 84 to just run Kilcoole <-> Bray - they could run 4 times as many services with same amount of buses. The existing 84 is a relic of a bygone age.

dfx-

Jip wrote: »

This is another odd one, haven't got it in years but from when I did there wasn't a large drop in passenger numbers at the barn, sure it's only another 5 or 10 minutes into the city centre from there so what's the point ?

Beats me as a regular user of the 56A or is that now the 56. No big drop in numbers, but way to go to advertise the route. "Is there a bus into town due?" "No I don't think so, this goes 3/4 way, but then terminates." "The next one might, I can't quite work out the timetable" "Ah grand - I'll just get the Luas so."

And the 46A remains untouched. Clueless.

KC61

Service Changes 12th April Deferred


Following an invitation Dublin Bus attended talks at the Labour Court this afternoon. The Labour Court has decided to clarify a number of issues contained in their earlier recommendation. They will issue the clarifications to the Company and the Trade Unions early next week.

The Labour Court has requested that the Company defer the implementation of its Cost Effectiveness Plan (due to be implemented this Sunday 12th April) for a period of one week in order to give the opportunity for this final attempt to resolve the issue.

Dublin Bus has agreed to this request in the interest of our customers.

shltter

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/27/


http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/New-Timetable-Route-27/



I remember discussing this a few weeks back about the 27 route and here it is

If you count the number of journeys on the 27 route between 7 am and 9 am from clarehall

old time table 18 departures

new timetable 13 departures

Thats nearly a 30% reduction in capacity during peak 7am to 9 am

one2one

Remember that some of the 27 departures were covered by €uro buses working into the City Centre (usually Harristown) which then operate other routes.

Regarding route 56A, this route is only needed from about the Walkinstown Roundabout to The Square S.C., as when it goes onto the Long Mile Road the 151 covers it, then Drimnagh Road you have the 50,77 & 77A also, Crumlin Road you now have 50,56A,77,77A and 150 +(151, but this operates on a slightly different route via the north quays) all taking the same route into the City Centre.

I cannot see why some Xpresso services have been withdrawn, (15X,49X,50X,65X etc) as the service was bad enough on these routes compared to for example the 25X or 39X!

The 46A not being cut is an utter joke!

Carawaystick

KC61 wrote: »

Service Changes 12th April Deferred


Following an invitation Dublin Bus attended talks at the Labour Court this afternoon. The Labour Court has decided to clarify a number of issues contained in their earlier recommendation. They will issue the clarifications to the Company and the Trade Unions early next week.

The Labour Court has requested that the Company defer the implementation of its Cost Effectiveness Plan (due to be implemented this Sunday 12th April) for a period of one week in order to give the opportunity for this final attempt to resolve the issue.

Dublin Bus has agreed to this request in the interest of our customers.

I'm sorry, did DB just announce changes to their timetables with 3 days notice and then with 2 day's notice, renege on the advertised changes???

In what kind of a world can this level of confusion be considered in the interest of their customers?

At least Irish rail have to notionally change their timetables in mid December...

shltter

one2one wrote: »

Remember that some of the 27 departures were covered by €uro buses working into the City Centre (usually Harristown) which then operate other routes.
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That was the point a made a number of weeks ago when some argued that the 27 was not being cut.

A glance at the new and old timetable clearly shows that the 27 service has been cut by about 30 % at peak time even if there are the same number of duties on the 27 bill in Clontarf.

LiamD

Very disappointed about the 15X being cut. I use it 2-3 times a week and it usually has a more than 50% load. How this route does not pay for itself is beyond me. Do they send it from Harristown garage every morning?

This will be a blow for Knocklyon commuters and it will lengthen morning commute time for the route regulars.

one2one

No, the 15X is run by Broadstone buses (but controlled by Ringsend Garage)

patrickbrophy18

I am absolutely amazed that the 59 and 8 bus routes were not affected at all. The 7D is down by one Journey. It does make sense as this particular journey left at an un-godly hour. However, what they did with the 111 is an absolute disgrace. It's new frequency is not to far off the current frequency of the 8 route. Thank god, the 46A is left unaffected. Otherwise, there would be uproar. Do any of you guys have any inside information on whether or not the 59 or 8 will continue to remain in service?

Mimikyu

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dub_commuter

It's a well known fact that the people in the area served by the 46A would go mad at any cutbacks, after all, they would have to use the dart, which must be such a bad thing for them, after all, there must be some reason that it's acceptable to run a lot of parallel transport in that area when most of the rest of Dublin is not so lucky.

Cookie_Monster

With the introduction of the 145 the capacity of the "46a corridor" was uped hugely. why they didn't take this oppertunity to remove 46a's is beyond me. The majority of the run virtually empty from Foxrock to DL anyway.

Then again though it is the flagship route:rolleyes:

spareman

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The Depot manager in Donnybrook lives in Deansgrange!! and a good few suits from 59 use this route on there daily commute, Might have something to do with it?