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Turning a small canopy into a Porch

  • 08-04-2009 5:14pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭


    I am toying with the idea of adding a small porch to the front of my house. There is already a small canopy kind of thing over the front door with an outside light, guttering etc, so I was wondering if I buildt the porch around this, keeping the dimensions the same as the canopy, would this circumvent any issues regarding Planning Permission and changing the front of your house??

    Any other advice??

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    You can build on a porch of up to 2 sq m onto the front of your house without needing planning permission. The area is measured inside the wall all around (like say, 1.5m wide x 1.33m deep or 1.66m wide x 1.2m deep)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    You can build on a porch of up to 2 sq m onto the front of your house without needing planning permission. The area is measured inside the wall all around (like say, 1.5m wide x 1.33m deep or 1.66m wide x 1.2m deep)

    Great! Thanks very much for that. Much appreciated...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 379 ✭✭pseudo-tech


    Is the house listed? If it is the porch would not be an exempt development.

    Do the house have a front garden or is it bounding the footpath? If the latter, then again you may have problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    Is the house listed? If it is the porch would not be an exempt development.

    Do the house have a front garden or is it bounding the footpath? If the latter, then again you may have problems.

    Yeah, this is what I feared... It's "bounding the footpath" as you say... Although it is sat back from the footpath itself, as in if I was to put a porch up it would not take away from the pavement at all. There is a canopy just outside the door and I didn't plan to go any bigger than that.

    Any ideas?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 379 ✭✭pseudo-tech


    WHIP IT! wrote: »
    Yeah, this is what I feared... It's "bounding the footpath" as you say... Although it is sat back from the footpath itself, as in if I was to put a porch up it would not take away from the pavement at all. There is a canopy just outside the door and I didn't plan to go any bigger than that.

    Any ideas?


    Are you within a terrace of houses? And have anyone else on the road done the same?

    You may need to discuss this with your local planner as it would be a material alteration to the front of the house. Sensitive situation, that i would not proceed with without the Council's blessing or you might be made to take it down!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,550 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    WHIP IT! wrote: »
    Yeah, this is what I feared... It's "bounding the footpath" as you say... Although it is sat back from the footpath itself, as in if I was to put a porch up it would not take away from the pavement at all. There is a canopy just outside the door and I didn't plan to go any bigger than that.

    Any ideas?
    Have a look at Class 7 of the 2001 regs on page 158 of this doc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    muffler wrote: »
    Have a look at Class 7 of the 2001 regs on page 158 of this doc.

    Thanks for that - as I understand it, if my porch is within the guidelines outlined in that document, I don#t need planning permission??

    I intend to consult the local council anyway, but just looking for some info. This kind of stuff goes right over my head!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    Are you within a terrace of houses? And have anyone else on the road done the same?

    You may need to discuss this with your local planner as it would be a material alteration to the front of the house. Sensitive situation, that i would not proceed with without the Council's blessing or you might be made to take it down!


    Yeah, I am the middle of a row of houses. My house is terraced. Each house has a partition wall that kind of juts out between them for privacy I suppose.

    Each house has this small canopy over the front door. I plan to use the aforementioned partition wall as one side of my porch with the canopy as the roof of it.

    wfhat1.jpg

    This is the best pic I could find that looks anything like the way my house is structured.

    If you take my front door as being the second from the right on this block. There is a partition (blockbuilt) wall between my front door and the end house. There is a similiar canopy roof to the one in the picture but they are seperate ones for each door, not continuous as in this pic. It is also not slated as it is here.

    Also, I have no front garden but my front door would be a similiar distance from the footpath and roadside as in the above pic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,550 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    From reading your posts I assume the house is not on the list of protected structures so the other thing you just need to check that constructing a porch doesnt contravene a planning condition.

    Do consult with the planners and that should sort it out


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