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Rugby Statistics Gathering - Help Please!!

  • 07-04-2009 4:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,211 ✭✭✭


    As part of a course I'm doing, we have to design our own computer program, with specific focus on the design process itself. We've decided to design a program that helps amateur and schools rugby teams to gather statistics on their games.

    Basically the user will sit at the side of the pitch and input the events of the game into a simple program using a laptop. These then get uploaded to a website, and can be analysed or displayed on graphs etc.

    So I have two questions, aimed at people who play/have played in amateur or schools Rugby, or particularly people who have coached in either.

    1. What is the current method used for keeping track of statistics?

    Be it just writing down the scorers, and using a scoreboard for keeping track of the score... let me know how you do it.

    2. As a player/coach, what would like this program to do?

    What stats would like to keep track of? Scorers, kicks, possession, territory etc.? Please let me know if there are any important things you think the program could keep track of.

    We will only ever be making a prototype, and we're being graded mostly on the design process instead of the program itself. It doesn't matter if you would not be interested in using this system. Assume that your club have decided to use this, and then think what you would like it to do.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭robgloster


    Well we usually just try remember who missed what .

    Sounds hady though the main statistic we would be interested in would have to be score, possession, territory,line-out won lost on our own ball and oppositions balls. Same for scrums, Possession kicked and ran, and missed tackels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    Seeing laptops in any form of AIL would be a funny sight indeed. Most of it is pen and paper. For the big boys they use SAS software.

    http://www.sas.com/offices/europe/uk/rugby/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭robgloster


    Stev_o wrote: »
    Seeing laptops in any form of AIL would be a funny sight indeed. Most of it is pen and paper. For the big boys they use SAS software.

    http://www.sas.com/offices/europe/uk/rugby/

    Some do use a video camera


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    robgloster wrote: »
    Some do use a video camera

    Not the same as having a video analyst on the sidelines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,211 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Cheers for the replies. Anybody else out there play amateur/schools rugby?

    Just for the two who have replied...

    robgloster - Why is it that no records from your games are recorded? Do you just feel it's not important, there is nobody to record them for you, it's too much effort?

    Stev o - If you know... what exactly are the records recorded on paper. Just scores/scorers or does it go into more detail than that?

    I'll just say that after talking to some other amateur players, they see this as more of a training tool, which I guess is how I see it to. They mainly want to see where their game is going wrong. So will be recording things like where on the pitch penalties are being given away/handling errors occur. We will also try and record reasons for penalties being given away. Also positions on the pitch kicks are scored/missed from will be recorded etc.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭robgloster


    Everything you said Royal.

    No1 to do it. To awkward.
    I do think however it is important. Would help in training. Focus on our weaknesses. Would be great asset to have. If it was easy to do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    Cheers for the replies. Anybody else out there play amateur/schools rugby?

    Just for the two who have replied...

    robgloster - Why is it that no records from your games are recorded? Do you just feel it's not important, there is nobody to record them for you, it's too much effort?

    Stev o - If you know... what exactly are the records recorded on paper. Just scores/scorers or does it go into more detail than that?

    I'll just say that after talking to some other amateur players, they see this as more of a training tool, which I guess is how I see it to. They mainly want to see where their game is going wrong. So will be recording things like where on the pitch penalties are being given away/handling errors occur. We will also try and record reasons for penalties being given away. Also positions on the pitch kicks are scored/missed from will be recorded etc.


    See the main problem faced by coaches with pen and paper is that they don't have great vision to see everything that happens. More then likely they ll note the scores which is a given but they ll note anything that catches there eye eg Players that are trying to clear out rucks are going way too high etc.

    Video footage at amateur level experiences the same faults dew to poor visibility and quality from the cameras being used. That and there is no ref link available so your basing your facts on what you see from the ref's commands and not what he is saying.


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