Guitars

domrush

Anyone recommend a guitar in between 800 and 900 euro?? lookin for a strat or tele really..

TelePaul

domrush wrote: »

Anyone recommend a guitar in between 800 and 900 euro?? lookin for a strat or tele really..

Highway 1 Strat or Tele so?

DamagedTrax

blonde thinline tele with f-hole and humbuckers :cool:

bout 800 euro from thomann.. not sure of prices over here.

domrush

that a mexican tele?

i also considered a highway strat but thought i might be able to afford an american one

TelePaul

domrush wrote: »

that a mexican tele?

i also considered a highway strat but thought i might be able to afford an american one

Tele with Humbuckers = Blasphemy!

Highway 1 Strats & Teles ARE American - made in Corona, California. Great guitars, have two Highway 1 Teles.

There's quite a bit of fluctuation with Fender prices these days, X Music seem to be selling them incredibly cheap, with USA standard strats for €999 (should include a hard case) and Highway 1s for €750.

Much of a muchness in terms of quality, but the Standard will hold it's re-sale value.

Zangetsu

You'll get a nice USA strat on adverts for that price easy enough! Other then that I'd check some of the UK stores like www.GAK.co.uk, www.dolphinmusic.co.uk or www.soundslive.co.uk online. The exchange rate is still good...

DamagedTrax

TelePaul wrote: »

Tele with Humbuckers = Blasphemy!

bah!!! tele with humbuckers is the awesome :cool:

domrush

Pretty unlikey i'll be selling it on ever really...


so what do yas reckon....

highway one tele/strat brand new

or

second hand standard tele/strat

bigeasyeah

Hey.You could have a look at
www.musicstore.de.I found them good and reliable.You might something good there.They re based in Germany but delivery is fast considering.

TelePaul

domrush wrote: »

Pretty unlikey i'll be selling it on ever really...


so what do yas reckon....

highway one tele/strat brand new

or

second hand standard tele/strat

If those are your options, I'd definately go for a new Highway 1. I personally feel a bit dubious about picking up guitars second-hand unless I'm 110% sure of the condition; there's actually quite alot that can go wrong with an electric guitar.

I have Highway 1s and American Stds. If re-sale isn't a big issue, I would have no reservations about recommending a Highway 1, fantastic build quality and sound, especially the latest series. I'd pocket the €150 quid and buy a nice FX pedal to go with it.

Btw, have you given much thought to the Strat Vs. Tele debate?

TelePaul

DamagedTrax wrote: »

bah!!! tele with humbuckers is the awesome :cool:

Know what I call a Tele with Humbuckers? An SG.

dav nagle

You can't go wrong with a strat

domrush

well i got a strat copy which i love the feel of and i'm tryin the tele tommorow in galway..
suppose i'll know then really.

any idea is one heavier than the other?

TelePaul

domrush wrote: »

well i got a strat copy which i love the feel of and i'm tryin the tele tommorow in galway..
suppose i'll know then really.

any idea is one heavier than the other?

Much of a muchness.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

id reccomend a strat - i like teles , but strat has more versatile sound range in it .
dotn get a mexican - they are ok, but the USA ones feel and sound better.

but if your fingers are short and not as strong as most , id get a gibson cos its an inch shorter scale length and easier to play than a strat.

i replaced the pickups in mine , but the stock ones are not bad - they make em well these days , compared to the mid 80/s late ninetys when they were crap .

i also got an esp ec1000 2nd hand recenlty which for rock / metal is superb.

dav nagle

The Telecaster has a really clear sound. Excellent for playing melodies on if you are writing lead guitar parts that are soft and gentle like the Frames and the Cranberries. The Tele is an all round awesome guitar for lead, rock, power chords. Most Telecaster are extremely light weight to and extremely versatile.




I just recorded with a sick Strat and I have to say I want one. The Strat has a very unique musical sound. I find it hard to describe. The strat sounds like 2 Teles playing at once. Really punchy unique sound. The Strat has such a unique sound but be warned you may not like that sound on everything you do.


They are both a good buy.

Sorry for the **** descriptions

TelePaul

A few things worthy of note - the critical difference between US and Mexi Fenders comes down to quality control. In my experience, you really need to play three or four Mexi's before you find an out-and-out winner. Chances are a US standard will sound pretty good off the shelf. Construction-wise, there really isn't that much in it; could you really tell the difference between 3-piece and 5/7-piece construction? The only REAL difference, IMO, is the fact that the US machineheads are Schaller cast. The necks differ too, but it's a personal thing. The point I'm making is that blindfolded, I doubt all that many people could swear US or Mexi.

The Strat is widely regarded as the most versatile electric guitar ever. It has three pickups, 5 pickup selection options and a vibrato arm.

A Tele has two pickups, and three pickup selection options. A Tele packs a good deal more 'twang' in the bridge position; IMO it's brighter than a Strat in the bridge and a little woodier and more mellow in the neck. Depending on the model, the pickups may be wired out of phase in the middle position.

Given that both Strats and Teles are single-coil equipped with, for the most part, alder bodies with either maple or rosewood fingerboards...they're gonna sound very similar.

As for Gibsons...a whole other ball game. A Gibson will never sound like a Fender and a Fender will never sound like a Gibson.

Seziertisch

http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=102543&cat=16

This would be my recommendation out of the current lot for sale on adverts at the moment.

Different from a strat or tele but equally as flexible, not suited to metal with those P90s, but would work for any kind of alternative/rock.

He's willing to take €550, it seems. Reckon with maybe another 70 or 80 for a hardshell case and away you go. You will even have a couple of hundred to spare to maybe get a few pedals or a new speaker for your amp or whatever.

af_thefragile

Get a Highway 1 tele.
They're much better than the mexican tele and even better than the bottom range american tele.
They're just a stripped down tele made in usa with all decent wood and hardware. And are pretty cheap. Especially if you order one from UK!!

donegal1

I've got a Mexican strat and US strat and I play the Mexican one much more, just feels much better to me, and can't complain about the quality. Just my experience...

trackmixstudio

Seziertisch wrote: »

http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=102543&cat=16

This would be my recommendation out of the current lot for sale on adverts at the moment.

Different from a strat or tele but equally as flexible, not suited to metal with those P90s, but would work for any kind of alternative/rock.

He's willing to take €550, it seems. Reckon with maybe another 70 or 80 for a hardshell case and away you go. You will even have a couple of hundred to spare to maybe get a few pedals or a new speaker for your amp or whatever.

Well spotted!
Just bought that.

I much prefer teles than strats. The neck and middle together on a tele gives a great balance of highs and lows. I have a US deluxe tele with the s1 switch to put the 2 single coils in series. It sounds amazing.
Strats always sound too thin to me on single coils and too dull on pos 2&4.
Highways are not nice IMO.

In saying that my favourite guitar I own is a 2002 LP standard 50s neck with burstbuckers. Real organic sound that reacts totally differently depending on how hard you dig into the strings.
Fitz played it for the nickelback cover and agreed it was nicer than the PRS in the studio, even though it is worth half as much.
There are several used LP standards going for around €1200 at the moment. I would suggest putting the extra towards one. Strats are 10 a penny where an LP std is a special guitar.

TelePaul

trackmixstudio wrote: »

Highways are not nice IMO.

Honestly not sure how ya can like US standards and not rate Hwy 1s...

trackmixstudio

TelePaul wrote: »

Honestly not sure how ya can like US standards and not rate Hwy 1s...

Because I'm a snob:p

Really though, I never said I liked the standards. They are hit and miss and you really need to play a few before picking one. The highways just never connected with me. I have never held one and wanted to keep it.
I often want to keep a gibson after playing it.
Funny I remember the Fender rep said to me one time after he came back from a tour of Fender's manufacturing facilities "Mexican strats are made by Mexicans in Mexico. American starts are made by mexicans in America":pac:

Seziertisch

trackmixstudio wrote: »

Well spotted!
Just bought that.

I much prefer teles than strats. The neck and middle together on a tele gives a great balance of highs and lows. I have a US deluxe tele with the s1 switch to put the 2 single coils in series. It sounds amazing.
Strats always sound too thin to me on single coils and too dull on pos 2&4.
Highways are not nice IMO.

In saying that my favourite guitar I own is a 2002 LP standard 50s neck with burstbuckers. Real organic sound that reacts totally differently depending on how hard you dig into the strings.
Fitz played it for the nickelback cover and agreed it was nicer than the PRS in the studio, even though it is worth half as much.
There are several used LP standards going for around €1200 at the moment. I would suggest putting the extra towards one. Strats are 10 a penny where an LP std is a special guitar.

Good man, I was despairing that a guitar like that at a better than great price would just be left languishing.

Yeah, I know what you mean about PRS. Part of the problem with them is that the pickups they come with are only alright. I think when PRS first came on the market the replacement pickup industry didn't even exist but nowadays there are so many great pickups being wound by different makers (big and small). Different pickups in the PRS and you might be singing a very different tune. That said, I also know a lot of guys that bought PRS a few years ago but have slowly gravitated back to the classics. My take on this is that it is a bit of a case of a guitar trying to be jack or all trades but ending up master of none. It can kind of do a Les Paul (but not really) and it can kind of do a Tele or Strat (but not really).

... and ironically, the Burstbucker originated with Gibson in Japan (as an effort to recreate the originals) but is one of the reasons I would recommend someone to check out a new US made Les Paul Standard. I was in Waltons a few months back and tried out a few, some kind of meeeehhh, a couple kind of mmmmm, and one that was just really had it. They still make em, you just have to do a bit of searching to find a good un.

crazeehorse

if ur gonna put humbuckers on a tele you might as well just buy a ****ty epiphone.

i personally (even thought its a bit weird) would choose a mexican tele over a highway 1 any day even though the mexican is cheaper. this is because i find it much nicer to play though the sustain on them isnt great as opposed to an american standard tele even though i'd still prefer a mexican neck to a nice american one.

trackmixstudio

I collected the LP gem.
It is fantastic! The p90s are really nice.
Almost felt guilty handing the guy Epiphone money for a pretty rare US Gibson. It was a limited run for 96/97 that included 5
different gem stone colours. This one is sapphire.
It is full Les Paul weight with a fat 50s style neck and nitro finish and in almost brand new condition too.:D:D:D

TelePaul

trackmixstudio wrote: »

I collected the LP gem.
It is fantastic! The p90s are really nice.
Almost felt guilty handing the guy Epiphone money for a pretty rare US Gibson. It was a limited run for 96/97 that included 5
different gem stone colours. This one is sapphire.
It is full Les Paul weight with a fat 50s style neck and nitro finish and in almost brand new condition too.:D:D:D

Sound clips please! How much did it go for in the end?

trackmixstudio

I will probably use it this weekend for an indie rock band I am recording so I will post a song Monday if the band are cool with that.
I got it for 550. Best guitar deal I ever got!

Seziertisch

Slap a Bigsby onto it and you are in Crazy Horse territory. Although, if you do go that route be sure and put on some locking tuners, they make a huge difference to it staying in tune. You will be able to really abuse the Bigsby and have it there or there abouts tuning wise, basically with no more tuning drift that you could expect from normal play on a non-Bigsby guitar.

trackmixstudio

Seziertisch wrote: »

Slap a Bigsby onto it and you are in Crazy Horse territory. Although, if you do go that route be sure and put on some locking tuners, they make a huge difference to it staying in tune. You will be able to really abuse the Bigsby and have it there or there abouts tuning wise, basically with no more tuning drift that you could expect from normal play on a non-Bigsby guitar.

Er no thanks:p

I would never bastardize a Gibson. The only upgrade for this will be strap locks. This guitar will be for studio use so tuning is vital.
The biggest upgrade i ever made to a gibson was a set of 57 classics on my es137.
I occasionally see LP studios in the studio with EMG sets on them and it breaks my heart.

Seziertisch

trackmixstudio wrote: »

Er no thanks:p

I would never bastardize a Gibson. The only upgrade for this will be strap locks. This guitar will be for studio use so tuning is vital.
The biggest upgrade i ever made to a gibson was a set of 57 classics on my es137.
I occasionally see LP studios in the studio with EMG sets on them and it breaks my heart.

Don't know about that. It's not the case that the LP Studio comes with such amazing pups in the first place. The only Gibson pups that I've heard that I really liked are the P-90s and the Burstbuckers. They hold their own against the best of them. The others I consider only average. The Classic 57s are nice enough, but are easily bettered by (more affordable) offerings from other companies, while the 490 and 500 series are only ok.

Also in terms of tuning, standard Gibson tuners are only alright. Fine but no great shakes. A higher ratio tuner makes a big difference. I have also found that locking tuners improve the tone of guitars. Generally the string holes are located further down the shaft resulting in greater downward pressure on the nut which gives a bit more sustain.

crazeehorse

Seziertisch wrote: »

I have also found that locking tuners improve the tone of guitars. Generally the string holes are located further down the shaft resulting in greater downward pressure on the nut which gives a bit more sustain.

+1

Seziertisch

And of course the speed at which strings can be changed is the main advantage of locking tuners. An absolute blessing in pressure situations.

domrush

Update budget got upped to 1100 euro whoop!

American std strats are best in this range yes/no?

I'm thinking this one
http://www.thomann.de/ie/fender_american_standard_strat_mn_ow.htm
Any opinions???

TelePaul

domrush wrote: »

Update budget got upped to 1100 euro whoop!

American std strats are best in this range yes/no?

I'm thinking this one
http://www.thomann.de/ie/fender_american_standard_strat_mn_ow.htm
Any opinions???

Cheaper in Dublin where you can try before ya buy. If youre gonnafork out that much, always try the guitar first.

domrush

Thanks for reply Paul I reckon I'll give X-music a try seeing as their cheapest at 999 for standard might be able to haggle out a bargain for a good amp too. Anyone got opinions on x-music staff?

Seziertisch

Try adverts

http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=108381&cat=16

http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=95190&cat=500

These two come to mind. The second is a bit funkier but still probably a very nice guitar. Don't be afraid to haggle.

http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=91941&cpage=2#poststart

http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=106585&cat=16

PaulBrewer

domrush wrote: »

Thanks for reply Paul I reckon I'll give X-music a try seeing as their cheapest at 999 for standard might be able to haggle out a bargain for a good amp too. Anyone got opinions on x-music staff?

All nice guys in my opinion ...

TelePaul

domrush wrote: »

Anyone got opinions on x-music staff?

Yah they're good guys. Go for it!!

Rockshamrover

I have bought a few things from them and I found them very accommodating.
I got an M-Audi midi keyboard off them which I couldn't get to sync up with Logic. I changed it for another make which was just as bad. I then changed that for a Novation Compact which was just right (my other name is Goldilocks)

They weren't really into the haggling though. They threw in a couple of leads with some monitors I bought but wouldn't budge on price.