Protein drinks and sun block

Peckham

Now that I'm getting my mileage back up, there were two things I was wondering:

1) What protein drinks do people use after long runs? I just use Lucozade Sport, but that's not doing much for me in terms of protein (I think), and aren't we supposed to take on board both protein and carbs shortly after long runs to aid recovery?

2) Today was a bit sunny, and I got a bit sunburnt on my 2 hour jaunt. I put on the face protector I use after shaving before going out (it has SPF15 included), but still feeling a little burnt. In previous summers I used a sunblock but that just made my face sweat quite heavily (presumably it was block the pores). What are others here using?

Sosa

Hey Peckham,
I recently got high 5 ,its 4 parts super carbs and one part protein.
Its designed for use during endurance sports and can also be used as recovery drink...i find it very good.
As for sun screen...i just use the nivea spray ...think its factor 10...get a bit sweaty alright,but better than getting burned,and i might start wearing sunglasses if the weather stays good.

asimonov

I use Provon revive, but locozade and as sosa says high5 have products as well. You're lookin' at a 45 min window once finished training to take them. I think you should be looking for .25 gm of protein and 1gm of carb per kilo of bodyweight for optimum recovery.

ike

I've started using the High5 Protein Recovery after longer or harder sessions - give 18g of Protein and 45g when mixed with water. Slightly less than double those figure when mixed with milk (although I only mix with water). Mixes well and easy to digest. Find it keep the hunger pangs a bay for a bit longer after the run

rigal

Was taking the high 5 but have started taking powerbar recovery recently. Find it tastier and more effective. It's chocolate flavour and has a lot of vitamins etc included as well as whey protein and carbs.

Can't comment on suncream as never wear it running - sweat too much!

Peckham

Thanks for all the replies. Have just purchased some "Lion Bar" flavoured PowerBar drink mix, and sports specific sun-block on wiggle.co.uk.

Do you just drink the protein drink after long runs, or do you also use it for shorter intense stuff?

Krusty_Clown

I also use Provon Revive after long runs or particularly hard sessions, but I think I will revert to the Powerbar Recovery drink when this stash is finished. It's definitely more appetizing than the Provon Revive and is a lot less expensive. On a previous post, someone quoted one of the elite Irish athletes as having said that a pint of Super Milk is one of the best recovery drinks available.

I don't generally use sun-screen, but a running buddy uses P20 or something similar, as it is an apply once/non sweat mixture.

My Thoughts

I was given a free sample of Hamilton sunscreen at some fun run a while back (might have been the Docklands) and since then have sworn by the stuff for the entire family, I used it while out running in Spain during my holidays last year and it worked well despite my sweatfests in the heat:D - its an Austrailian product but you can get it at many pharmacies.

Sosa

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

I also use Provon Revive after long runs or particularly hard sessions, but I think I will revert to the Powerbar Recovery drink when this stash is finished. It's definitely more appetizing than the Provon Revive

a pint of Super Milk is one of the best recovery drinks available./quote]

I gave a butty of mine a sample of the provon revive...we both agreed that it tasted like...em ...not nice.
So he went off and bought a box of the stuff for about €40 ...wheres the sense in that ?

as for the super milk,i could well believe it,must start that

I must get some of that sports sun screen...handy to have...it will probably last me about 10 years as we get more rain in the summer than the winter

copacetic

I've been trying various SIS products and find Rego seems to suit me after longer runs.
http://www.scienceinsport.com/rego.htm

messed_up

copacetic wrote: »

I've been trying various SIS products and find Rego seems to suit me after longer runs.
http://www.scienceinsport.com/rego.htm

Been using this as well recently and am very happy with it and will get some more. I will steer clear of the banana flavour though - I generally love anything banana flavoured but this one is an aquired taste to say the least!

High 5 4:1 is worth looking at, pretty good IMO - tasty too.

wizwill

Hi, I have used bananna boat sport sunscreen, its excellent, used it in Oz while playing soccer and deals with sweat very well. I use Provon Revive and its ok/goodish, tastes bad but you get use to it, its made me a little sick twice (after 20 miles) but i have a bit of a weak stomach so i wouldnt blame it.

mithril

I use Mars Revive which you can get from most convenience stores. Its just a branded name for chocalate milk which is supposed to contain close to the ideal combo of carbohydrates and protein for recovery.

TFBubendorfer

I use either slim fast or plain old chocolate milk for my protein drinks.
The slim fast pretty much has the ideal protein-to-carb ration (it's 1:4 if I remember correctly), and the chocolate milk very much depends on the brand. I always pick the one with the highest protein content.

Both are way cheaper than sports recovery mixes, and I don't think they are any worse.

daymobrew

I use Maximuscle Viper drink (4.2g protein, 43g carb) and PowerBar Ride bars (10g protein, 22g carb).

lecheile

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

I use either slim fast or plain old chocolate milk for my protein drinks.
The slim fast pretty much has the ideal protein-to-carb ration (it's 1:4 if I remember correctly), and the chocolate milk very much depends on the brand. I always pick the one with the highest protein content.

Both are way cheaper than sports recovery mixes, and I don't think they are any worse.

I agree on the usefulness of Chocolate milk - only issue is keeping the kids away from it!!!

mithril

There is a good article about it here.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/24/health/webmd/main1342839.shtml

MoonDancer

Is there a reason why you all are drinking these protein drinks? I usually just have an egg sandwich after my run, should I also be drinking one of these drinks you are all talking about?

Vegeta

Not trying to be a knob or anything but you could all just make your own. Its WAY cheaper.

Some unflavoured whey and some glucose and your well on the way.

I would avoid anything with Fat in it i.e. milk, as fat is slow to digest and will therefore slow absorption of the things you want, sugars and proteins.

--amadeus--

Vegeta wrote: »

Not trying to be a knob or anything but you could all just make your own. Its WAY cheaper.

Some unflavoured whey and some glucose and your well on the way.

I would avoid anything with Fat in it i.e. milk, as fat is slow to digest and will therefore slow absorption of the things you want, sugars and proteins.

Give us a recipie then!

TFBubendorfer

Vegeta wrote: »

Not trying to be a knob or anything but you could all just make your own. Its WAY cheaper.

That's why I mentioned chocolate milk. The stuff from tesco costs about €2.50 and lasts me for a month or two. Hardly breaking the bank, is it?

eliwallach

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

On a previous post, someone quoted one of the elite Irish athletes as having said that a pint of Super Milk is one of the best recovery drinks available.

Skim-milk is the ideal (and I must emphasize IDEAL post run energy provider).
Vegeta alluded to the fact that Fat must be avoided in a suitable drink, and that's where the skim-milk ticks all the boxes.
Various "Big Players" in the Dairy Industry are furiously beavering away developing a skim-milk based energy/sports drink (value added, of course). This product will not be marketed as skim milk but as a "high energy sports fuel" to ensure that:

1. people will buy it
2. they can charge what they like.

But trust me on this, skim-milk will do the same job.

Running Bing

eliwallach wrote: »

Skim-milk is the ideal (and I must emphasize IDEAL post run energy provider).
Vegeta alluded to the fact that Fat must be avoided in a suitable drink, and that's where the skim-milk ticks all the boxes.
Various "Big Players" in the Dairy Industry are furiously beavering away developing a skim-milk based energy/sports drink (value added, of course). This product will not be marketed as skim milk but as a "high energy sports fuel" to ensure that:

1. people will buy it
2. they can charge what they like.

But trust me on this, skim-milk will do the same job.

Yep more Crabs than whole milk, more protein than whole milk, less fat than whole milk and a lot easier to drink after a run than whole milk imo.

Vegeta

--amadeus-- wrote: »

Give us a recipie then!

Cordial of your choice in correct portion. unflavoured whey and water

Whey can be got pretty cheaply at www.bulkpowders.co.uk (I'm not affiliated in any way)

I know for recovery post work out with weights its 2:1 ratio of carbs(simple sugars):protein so I cant see what it would be any different for running (yes the sport is very different but the post workout food is for the same thing, refuel quickly). For every gram of protein you take there should be 2 grams of sugar.

Typical serving is 50grams of carbs to 25 grams of protein, this can be scaled depending on person, goals and needs.

To be super cheap you could buy dextrose or glucose (also available at that site) and use that instead of the cordial, depends on your taste buds as you wont drink it if you don't like it.

copacetic

Babybing wrote: »

Yep more Crabs than whole milk, more protein than whole milk, less fat than whole milk and a lot easier to drink after a run than whole milk imo.

more crabs you say, ugghhhh!

But on the use of off the shelf powders, personally I use often use the rego one as all you need is the 50g of powder and some water to make it. So very handy for travelling etc etc.

However it does basically come out like vanilla milk so I must look at user super milk and vanilla powder when at home

Vegeta

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

That's why I mentioned chocolate milk. The stuff from tesco costs about €2.50 and lasts me for a month or two. Hardly breaking the bank, is it?

That's cool but as the others have pointed out the fat in normal milk is not the best as it will slow absorption of the sugars and protein which is what you are trying to achieve in the first place.

Don't get me wrong milk is an amazing food for all sorts of training goals but try and get non fat milk for immediately after workouts

Krusty_Clown

Vegeta wrote: »

but try and get non fat milk for immediately after workouts

Non-fat or low-fat? Low-fat is a regular purchase in our household, (with full-fat milk for the kids), so would the quantity of fat in low-fat milk be enough to slow the absorption of sugars and proteins? Don't like the idea of buying non-fat milk specifically for recovery drinks, because of shelf-life, fridge space etc!

Vegeta

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Non-fat or low-fat? Low-fat is a regular purchase in our household, (with full-fat milk for the kids), so would the quantity of fat in low-fat milk be enough to slow the absorption of sugars and proteins? Don't like the idea of buying non-fat milk specifically for recovery drinks, because of shelf-life, fridge space etc!

Personally I use low fat as I am not super strict with my diet.

But if one was to do it very strictly it would be no fat but hey what are you trying to do, be the best in the world or have fun with your sport. Its all relative.

The reason I posted is I was surprised to see so many people buying products that can be relatively expensive when all you need is a bit of sugar and protein which can be done quite cheaply these days.

For example I used to get 12lb of brand name whey here for 100 euro (great suff, tastes yum) and then I started buying unflavoured stuff from the site I linked above. I got 22lbs of whey for 80 euro. That's nearly twice the amount at 20% less cost.