VRT for Audi TT 1.8 2009

tbaymusicman

Guys i cant find out how much the vrt would be on the above said car my girlfriend is talking of getting a brand new one in and selling her mini any ideas on price the cars are going for 24000

Keith in cork

tbaymusicman wrote: »

Guys i cant find out how much the vrt would be on the above said car my girlfriend is talking of getting a brand new one in and selling her mini any ideas on price the cars are going for 24000

www.ros.ie online vrt calculator

Gumbo

isint the new TT a 2.0 TFSI?
(same engine as the Mk5 Golf GTi)

tbaymusicman

kceire wrote: »

isint the new TT a 2.0 TFSI?
(same engine as the Mk5 Golf GTi)

apparently theres a new cheapie roadster tt:D:D:D 1.8

tbaymusicman

Keith in cork wrote: »

www.ros.ie online vrt calculator

ye was on the calculator and all but i cant seem to use it:(

DanGerMus

12k for the 2l i'd imagine the 1.8 would be a little less. Dont forget your VAT though.
I dont think it works out to bring in brand new cars TBH.

-Chris-

Price it up as a brand new ROI car.

Multiply this by 0.92.

Multiply this by the VRT rate.

That's the VRT you'll owe.

bazz26

I'd say the real VRT savings will be on the TDi version but who really wants a TDi TT?

Do-more

tbaymusicman wrote: »

ye was on the calculator and all but i cant seem to use it:(

It's been down all day, they must be updating it with all the new higher rates to be brought in, in Tuesday's budget!

Chopper888

You will be charged VAT on the purchase price of the car if it hasn't got 4,000 miles/6,000 km on the clock.

L-M

Lol, I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Going to the UK is a trend, simple as.

quietsailor

I just tried to use the VRT calculator and the drop down menus for the make and model don't work. Has anybody used it today?

Do-more

quietsailor wrote: »

I just tried to use the VRT calculator and the drop down menus for the make and model don't work. Has anybody used it today?

Down all day..... since 7.30am at least.

Matt Simis

tbaymusicman wrote: »

apparently theres a new cheapie roadster tt:D:D:D 1.8

Why buy a crippled version when you can get cheaper (or at least better value)2007 and 2008 models with the designed-for 2.0TFSI engine?

Extra weight of the roadster with a smaller engine is a bad combo.

copacetic

Chopper888 wrote: »

You will be charged VAT on the purchase price of the car if it hasn't got 4,000 miles/6,000 km on the clock.

Will be charged VAT either way on an 09 as it won't be 6 months old, has to be both > 6 months old AND > 6000km to avoid VAT.

Limerick man wrote: »

Lol, I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Going to the UK is a trend, simple as.

What does that mean? That it won't last? Been a trend for going on 6 years or more now. Sterling rate recently has just made it a no brainer. It'll stay a 'trend' until something changes there.

cooper38

yes you will be charged vat if it is less than 6 months old

cheapskate

Hi all,

How can they charge Vat on a purchase made in another EU state this is in breach of EU Law!
I'm sure they can charge a premium VRT rate as this was/is there get out..?

CS

copacetic

you don't pay the VAT in the UK, you only pay it here. Under EU law a car under 6 months old OR less than 6000kms in classed as new so VAT is due.

cheapskate

I get ya! But surely you could pay vat in the uk instead, No?

CS

conneem-TT

You will need to pay VRT and VAT if the car is less than 6 months old or has less than 6,000km on the clock AFAIK

But whatever about the engine, don't let her pick this pink one :eek:





Get one in a proper colour like mine

copacetic

cheapskate wrote: »

I get ya! But surely you could pay vat in the uk instead, No?

CS

no, you need to pay VAT when you register a 'new' car in a member state.

galwaytt

conneem-TT wrote: »

You will need to pay VRT and VAT if the car is less than 6 months old or has less than 6,000km on the clock AFAIK

Yum.

But, why would you want THREE GREY CARS ??

OP - god, by anything except a grey one!:D

Pearl white, Magma Red leather. :cool: Yum

Btw - a new 2.0 TT in diesel is 29.7k Stg. It'll be infinataly more saleable down the road, and half the tax. Cheaper VRT too.

conneem-TT

galwaytt wrote: »

Yum.

But, why would you want THREE GREY CARS ??

OP - god, by anything except a grey one!:D

Pearl white, Magma Red leather. :cool: Yum

Btw - a new 2.0 TT in diesel is 29.7k Stg. It'll be infinataly more saleable down the road, and half the tax. Cheaper VRT too.

Magma is lovely alright

The diesel is supposed to be good, it has the new 170hp common rail unit which is supposed to be very refined. Not near as popular in the UK as the petrol, as the only peple considering it are putting up very high mileage as people are only getting about 20% better fuel economy in the real world than the petrol 48mpg vs 38 mpg and they are in the same tax band in the UK. But here it does fall into the E150 band which is very good. I haven't seen any TDI's over here but I don't regularly see any TT's so there could be a few. There is at least one white Irish one though

It's flat ibis white, if you want pearl white that'll cost you 2k to get an Audi Exclusive colour



What I'm wanting next is this :cool: the TT-RS

5 cylinder turbo woth 340hp, 0-100km/h in 4.6s, 0-200km/h in 15.9s :eek: and only E1,000 to tax.



There is a very wide selection of engines now availible for the TT isn't there, 160hp 1.8T, 170hp 2.0 TDI, 200hp 2.0T, 250hp 3.2 V6, 270hp TTS and the 340hp TT-RS

galwaytt

...there's a new 08 TT in white in Galway at the mo. Yum, and it's not even the Pearl.

Saw one of those TT RS's at the 'Ring last weekend. V. nice.

And rented !!

...he'll be minding it, so......:D

DirtyOilBurner

Limerick man wrote: »

Lol, I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Going to the UK is a trend, simple as.

Ok Limerick Man, if going to the uk is just a trend price a car for me of what you think it is in the south and il tell you what i paid in the north including vat & vrt? 2009 Brand New Audi A4 2.0TDI 143bhp full proper s line pack inside and out not like the exterior kits in the south, then the extras metallic quartz grey, bluetooth, servotronic, audi ipod interface, heated seats, full autoglym protection pack inc bootliner, rubber mats over the carpet ones & mudflaps £500, and all the other s line stuff bigger wheels leather etc how much in the south??

L-M

DirtyOilBurner wrote: »

Ok Limerick Man, if going to the uk is just a trend price a car for me of what you think it is in the south and il tell you what i paid in the north including vat & vrt? 2009 Brand New Audi A4 2.0TDI 143bhp full proper s line pack inside and out not like the exterior kits in the south, then the extras metallic quartz grey, bluetooth, servotronic, audi ipod interface, heated seats, full autoglym protection pack inc bootliner, rubber mats over the carpet ones & mudflaps £500, and all the other s line stuff bigger wheels leather etc how much in the south??

Now, you see you are missing my point. I'm not saying that you won't get cheaper cars in the UK, for your example above, which i don't know the cost of here, there are obviously savings to be had. What my point is, people don't even check the price of cars over here. The amount of people that come to me telling me about a car they want to buy, and the first thing they say is "I'll go to the UK for it, sure I'll get it cheaper over there". I think in recent months, and now even, the Irish makret has become alot more competitive in pricing. It has to be. For the dealers, the fact that most will still take a trade in, you have the oppurtunity to trade in your own car and buy a used car with warranty. I understand some NI dealers may offer warranty, and any of those who do trade in Southern reg vehicles will only do so if they are robbing the car off you. In the end, the car is either going to be traded back down to the South or sold up north cheaply. For cheaper cars, unless you are in the trade, or you are buying in bulk, there are not massive savings to be had.

I think if you were you chance any dealer on a straight cash deal, you should be able to get a price close enough to the cost of import. Case depending of course. AudiChris might jump in here with the price of the above vehicle, but I'm gathering you got it cheaper, as you seem to have your homework done. That can't be said for alot of the public. People go to the UK, buy straight, then they are stuck with there own car and have to sell it at a knock down price to get rid of it.

Did you have a car when you bought the Audi? What did you do with it?

Edit: To those who saw my pre edited post, I was rushing out the door and didn't have time to give a proper response.

DirtyOilBurner

Yes i know what your saying limerickman, they automatically think cheaper in the uk. I find big petrol engine cars are maybe cheaper over here. I went to about 5 audi garages before i done a deal and they wernt ringing me back, and i told them i would buy straight or trade in it didnt bother me, i had a black 2006 audi a4 1.9tdi s line southern car from new with perfect service history timing belt tyres and brake pads just done 1 owner from new, hardly an unwanted car, but even the straight sale price was over 10k euro cheaper and that was against the northern price including the extras against the southern price not including any extras just s line pack no metallic paint etc, now in fairness if the stg wasnt so weak that would maybe take away 30% of the saving, when i asked the audi garages why there was so much of a difference in price one of them said due to the other garages not building state of the art showrooms so basically paying for there big showrooms, now i might add that the garage i bought out of in the north was isaac agnews audi, hardly cheap either, they delivered the car with a full tank of diesel and a bunch of flowers, service was second to none, so there definetely is massive saving in the north, i notice that a lot of second hand prices are coming back up in the uk??

L-M

Well if you saw everyone was coming in in there crowds to buy cars, wouldn't you think twice of bringing any prices down? Just out of curiousity, how much of your 10k margin did you lose when you sold on the 06? Or was the 10k after everything was done?

On the note of flowers, I'm sure if I gave some one flowers with a car I'd get suspicious looks from them:P

Owen

DirtyOilBurner wrote: »

they delivered the car with a full tank of diesel and a bunch of flowers

The flowers are to disguise the diesel smell that reminds you that Petrol is superior

DirtyOilBurner

Was getting offers of 13k/14k/15k from different audi garages, the lower one's were around dublin, i sold it myself for 16,500 through carzone and had it gone before the new car arrived, the audi garages in the south also had a 3 month waiting list on an s line which i cannot understand as they are all coming from the same place, the one we bought was just off the production line which any audi garage could have bought im told, but in the north it took 2 weeks and 3 months in the south??

Owen

DirtyOilBurner wrote: »

but in the north it took 2 weeks and 3 months in the south??

2 different countries will have 2 different allocations of production slots. Simple as.

DirtyOilBurner

The total saving overall was over 12k if you take part exchange into it aswell

DirtyOilBurner

ned78 wrote: »

2 different countries will have 2 different allocations of production slots. Simple as.

Can you ellaborate more on that ned?

Owen

DirtyOilBurner wrote: »

Can you ellaborate more on that ned?

No, I don't sell Audis, but the UK is a different country to Ireland, I'd imagine just like France is, they have different volumes of the various models assigned to various markets - which could explain the difference between the North (UK) and South (Ireland) in terms of the availability of your particular model. I'm guessing that is.

For example, when I used to sell cars, and I sold MINIs, it was difficult for me to get allocation for Cooper S', or Diesels, because the UK was a much more bouyant market for them, and the factory dedicated most of their slots to satisfy that market.

DirtyOilBurner

Ok but the car i bought was made and sitting in a compound somewhere in germany, any audi garage could have bought that car yet the garages in the south said it would take 3 months, and i bought it in northern ireland not uk, so i dont understand how it could take that much longer coming from the same place

Owen

DirtyOilBurner wrote: »

Ok but the car i bought was made and sitting in a compound somewhere in germany, any audi garage could have bought that car yet the garages in the south said it would take 3 months, and i bought it in northern ireland not uk, so i dont understand how it could take that much longer coming from the same place

Just because a car is sitting in a compound in Germany doesn't mean that that stock unit is allocated to the Irish market. The MINIs I wanted to get that time were all sitting in the same distribution depot, but I only had access to the ones manufactured for the Irish market.

DirtyOilBurner

Oh right, i wouldnt really know, but i just cant understand the saving, its ridiculos the amount in the difference, and i didnt want to buy from north but when the audi garages wouldnt ring back and i realised the saving i was left no choice

-Chris-

Limerick man wrote: »

DirtyOilBurner wrote: »

Ok Limerick Man, if going to the uk is just a trend price a car for me of what you think it is in the south and il tell you what i paid in the north including vat & vrt? 2009 Brand New Audi A4 2.0TDI 143bhp full proper s line pack inside and out not like the exterior kits in the south, then the extras metallic quartz grey, bluetooth, servotronic, audi ipod interface, heated seats, full autoglym protection pack inc bootliner, rubber mats over the carpet ones & mudflaps £500, and all the other s line stuff bigger wheels leather etc how much in the south??

AudiChris might jump in here with the price of the above vehicle

There's a complication when you're comparing specs from UK to Ireland that's coming into play for this specific car.

In the UK the Sport spec includes a whole load of stuff. That same Sport spec isn't available in Ireland. When you take an Irish base model and individually spec it up to UK Sport spec it ends up working out quite a bit more expensive.
The A3 Black Edition is the same story. I spec'ed an Irish car up to UK "Black Edition" spec for a customer and it ended out being considerably more expensive than the UK car.

The explanation I received was that Audi UK were negotiating "bulk discounts" for these specific specs that was reducing their pricing - they said to the factory "we want all this stuff in the car, same spec every time, in 200 of this colour and 400 of that colour. What kind of discount will you give us on the optional extras?".
I on the other hand am building a car from scatch.

Add to that the fact that optional extras in general are more expensive in Ireland than the UK (I'm not sure why this is) and you'll see that a UK Sport will always be cheaper than an ROI base model with enough optional extras to bring it up to UK Sport spec.


I'm not saying there won't be price differentials between UK and Irish cars, but you're exacerbating the problem when you compare specs like these.

DirtyOilBurner wrote: »

full proper s line pack inside and out not like the exterior kits in the south

The S-Line packs in the UK and Ireland are identical afaik.

DirtyOilBurner wrote: »

audi garages in the south also had a 3 month waiting list on an s line which i cannot understand as they are all coming from the same place, the one we bought was just off the production line which any audi garage could have bought im told, but in the north it took 2 weeks and 3 months in the south??

I couldn't have bought and supplied you with the car you bought, it would have MPH clocks on it which I can't sell.
Again, I'd say that the difference is due to the packs available. I'm not going to spec an ROI car up to UK Sport spec on speculation that someone might want that exact spec, whereas a UK dealer is pulling from a central stock of identical Sports with MPH clocks and a chioce of colours.

tbaymusicman

Matt Simis wrote: »

Why buy a crippled version when you can get cheaper (or at least better value)2007 and 2008 models with the designed-for 2.0TFSI engine?

Extra weight of the roadster with a smaller engine is a bad combo.

Well she's got a super charged cooper S mini so why bother at all is my thinking haha

Matt Simis

AudiChris, lets put on our WestBrit hats for a second, why are Audi UK and Ireland operating as if they are exclusive to each other, a policy that apparently hurts Audi here?

Surely the consumer in the UK and Ireland are similar enough that Irish models and UK models could be spec'ed the same (for aesthetic junk, not engines)? Sure we have VRT making cars more expensive here, but the relative difference to the competiton should be roughly similar as in the UK (as everyone is selling Inc VRT here and without there).

If market research in the UK has shown that consumers are interested in these special specs (Black, Sport, "GT TDI" etc), why are we (well, you) not exploiting that, at both the point of sale and the factory order level? As you pointed out, the Sline spec already is the same, why start dividing up the pie into ever diminishing slices?

-Chris-

I'm not high enough to know the exact hows and whys, but I would point out that that used to be the case with BMW too - BMW SE spec in the UK was different than BMW SE spec in ROI.

Then BMW Ireland (Frank Keane) was bought out by BMW GmbH and the Germans began running the show, operating it as a sub-office of BMW UK.

Within a year or two, the specs between UK & Ireland were the same and distribution was done via the UK (as I understand it, anyway - Ned may clarify that).


Audi Ireland (Motor Distributors Ltd) were taken over by the Germans on 1st Oct 2008 and now operate as VWGI. Who's to say the same thing won't happen to Audi as happened to BMW now that the show is being run from Germany.

As it is, there're anomolies all over the place in spec:
In Ireland the A4 is Base, SE & Sport, in the UK it's Base, SE, SE Executive, S-Line & S-Line Executive. In South Africa the A4 is Attraction, Ambiente & Ambition. In the USA they have both a Sport package and an S-Line package.

There's no marketing consistency that I can see.

DirtyOilBurner

Im guessing you work in an audi garage audi chris? If you do and i rang you up and asked for an s line, would it have lowered suspension, exterior bumpers, different steering wheel etc, the reason i ask is because every audi garage in the south i rang said there is an exterior s line package then you have to go and get the interior s line package also?? Where in the uk or ni an s line is just an s line has it all, and im not talking about the sport model that seems to be available in republic of ireland mostly, so what are you trying to say by your post? That you should or shouldnt buy from the uk? As far as i can see the audi garages sell the minimum spec so it allows them for more profit, i will guarantee if you had access to the profits an audi garage in the uk or ni are working for they will be a huge amount smaller than an audi garage in southern ireland???? Also as im sure you know with the flick of a switch you can change the digital speedo from miles to kilometres, so i dont see how that is a disadvantage! The audi garage that i bought off didnt order the car in specifically for me it was just there and i took it.....