Draft drama

Chucky the tree

Maybe some people dont realise it's a day late but rumours going around that USC LB Brian Cushing and SS Clay Matthews tested positive for steroids. None of the major networks/news sites are mentioning it though so not sure how true it is.

http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/usc_linebackers_test_positive.html


The same site is also carrying a story that BJ Raji, Vontae Davis and Percy Harvin tested positive for weed.


http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/three_prospects_test_positive.html

Hazys

Wats the punishment if this is true?

jdivision

Been rumours about Cushing for a long time because of the way his body shape changed so much. If they've been using steroids it's stupid, if they had any sense they could just have used HGH

tallaghtoutlaws

Hazys wrote: »

Wats the punishment if this is true?

No punishment as they are not contracted to the NFL yet. So the NFL cant remove them from Draft unless prosecuted afaik.

Teams will still take risks on these guys and tell them to quit.

Karlusss

Will surely affect his stock though especially because "great size" is something that people have been liking about Cushing and... I don't know anything about steroids, but it's a stretch to think he could would be just the same without them, right?

I suppose it depends on the extent, etc.

Also the taboo about marijuana in the off-season must surely be getting tired by now. Like... Randy Moss admitted it, dozens of others alluded to it...

tallaghtoutlaws

Karlusss wrote: »

Will surely affect his stock though especially because "great size" is something that people have been liking about Cushing and... I don't know anything about steroids, but it's a stretch to think he could would be just the same without them, right?

I suppose it depends on the extent, etc.

Also the taboo about marijuana in the off-season must surely be getting tired by now. Like... Randy Moss admitted it, dozens of others alluded to it...

80% College students in the US smoke it :D NCAA are nuts if they think players dont. Every party you go to there is going to be a healthy supply of weed floating around. I would say if they tested every single college player in the off season they will find a high percentage of them have smoked it.

As for the steroid thing the NCAA still dont have full control over the usage of it. The testing is not as widespread as they would like to have it. I know guys who went into college as freshmen and bulked up using steroids but most once bulked up came off it and used supplements to keep the development going. Like any other sport there is ways around it.

eagle eye

I seen the USC pro day workouts and you just knew that Cushing was on something with the size of him.

tallaghtoutlaws

Check this pic out veins all over the shop. Now I know veins appear when you work out as I lift myself but his veins a popping like KFC poppers.

Interesting read http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/2007/01/brian_cushing_i.html

Karlusss

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

80% College students in the US smoke it :D NCAA are nuts if they think players dont. Every party you go to there is going to be a healthy supply of weed floating around. I would say if they tested every single college player in the off season they will find a high percentage of them have smoked it.

Well they did try to arrest Michael Phelps for smoking a bong.

Michael Phelps, breaker of Olympic records, one of the greatest athletes in the history of the world.

But still these redneck cops are thinking along the lines of 50s radio propaganda about weed leading to Satan, heroin and moral depravity.

Lirange

The rumours look to be false according to the testing authorities.

A few of the sites that reported what draft bible blog had reported have now taken their blurbs down. There is a history of false reports being filtered through the media including a fabricated one about Mario Williams a few years back. Didn't hurt him in the draft. Roid usage is unfortunately prevalent and most of the the time the players evade the testing. It wouldn't surprise me if Cushing or anyone else was on the dope. But if we were to go on appearance we could question loads of players at both the NFL and college levels.

Karlusss

It is a bit stupid for them to test positive when they know the test is coming. So it makes sense that they wouldn't.

kev_s88

yep seems like a total lie

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ArCuH3JZCX8LrhkrQyOP3O9DubYF?slug=jc-combinedrugs040309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Scally07

I'd reserve judgement on this until its backed up by a more reliable source.

In relation to Cushing this is nothing new, but maybe he's just a work out warrior and he's been noted as a good charachter guy. As for Clay Mathews, he entered USC at 180lb's and is now 240ish - but then again they're basically professional athletes so its not that shocking.

Hazys

Mattthews, Cushing, Raji all appear to be in the clear now.

Its rumour there are less than 10 names on the drug test fail list.

jdivision

I hate to say... but I'm convinced most NFLplayers and college players in the draft are on HGH

Chucky the tree

Harvin seems to be the top name guilty for testing positive for dope. What a plank.

jdivision

Scally07 wrote: »

As for Clay Mathews, he entered USC at 180lb's and is now 240ish - but then again they're basically professional athletes so its not that shocking.

Yeah, you can grow pretty quick, and go back down again. he was a safety originally and they would have put him on a bulk diet to grow to play LB so there is a possibility. One international rugby player I know went up 42 pounds in about three years.
Personally I've just gone from 287 down to 224 in 13 months and in previous years went up 35lbs in just over two years through lifting, and that's not on a athlete type basis. A dedicated workout warrior would go up a lot more.

eagle eye

Here is some draft drama for you. I had a huge post written out for a new thread with the title 'pick your teams draft picks' and mozilla crashed. I just don't have the heart or patience to start again. A real draft drama for me. :mad: