Ryanair - New hand baggage policy probably not very well thought out

jahalpin

I was just thinking about the new hand bagage restrictions that Ryanair have introduced.

I don't think they quite thought this one out fully.

Modedit: I don't think you've thought this post out fully, Forum Charter says no libelous content, and no airline bashing.

am i bovvered

I love Ryanair, thanks to them I have enjoyed loads of holidays and weekends away, even when I fly Aer lingus I thank Michael O'Leary for the price

peeka

jahalpin wrote: »

Can't think of everything that I actually like about Ryanair

Modedit : Pointless and provocative post deleted by Mod

lord lucan

Tbh the biggest problem i see with their new hand luggage policy is that it's gonna affect their turnaround times.

I came back with FR from malaga last week and with people pushing the new baggage policy to the limit the time taken by people to put their luggage in the overhead bins was way longer than i've ever seen before. It didn't help mind that they'd only front loading through an airbridge so the whole ailse was congested with people trying to squeeze ridiculously sized suitcases into the overhead bins. It certainly cost them a lot more time than usual,plane arrived in on time but they surpassed their 25 minute turnaround by 15 minutes,most of it due to the above from what i can see(refueling was over and luggage loaded).

Kevster

I have to admit that I'm really proud of Ryanair, because they are the biggest airline in Europe and have worked their way up from merely a small fleet of airplanes doing regional flights only. Michael O'Leary is an extremely talented businessman, and that's why people dislike him. If you have success in the business world, then you won't have achieved it without upsetting a few people along the way. Instead of reacting to much of the criticism that het gets, he simply gets on with his job. Person the people who moan about him should take a leaf out of his book!

Owen

I've just cleaned up this thread. For the love of God would people, especially newer members of boards please read the charters and stickys of the forums you're posting in? It clearly says post nothing libelous, and no airline bashing.

For the time being, I'm just editing out the naughty stuff, but if the same people keep reoffending, they will be banned.

Tenger

jahalpin wrote: »

I was just thinking about the new hand bagage restrictions that Ryanair have introduced.

I don't think they quite thought this one out fully.

Actually the new handluggage policy fits perfectly with the FR business model. For good or bad they rely on grabbing atttention with rock bottom headline fares and then they generate revenue/profit with the 'hidden' extras.

The new policy forces pax to pack very light or check in a bag (profit). By packing very light they make the turnaround time quicker helping the FR schedule. If you buy stuff int he airport you must pay more cash to the gate agents

Personally I don't like the new policy but I will live with it as I only use FR for flights to STN.

Carlow52

Kevster wrote: »

I have to admit that I'm really proud of Ryanair, because they are the biggest airline in Europe and have worked their way up from merely a small fleet of airplanes doing regional flights only. Michael O'Leary is an extremely talented businessman, and that's why people dislike him. If you have success in the business world, then you won't have achieved it without upsetting a few people along the way. Instead of reacting to much of the criticism that het gets, he simply gets on with his job. Person the people who moan about him should take a leaf out of his book!

what relevance is this post to the thread title:( at best none

robinph

Er, what's new, looks to be exactly the same cabin baggage details on the website as they have had for ages. What did I miss?

Davidth88

Er, what's new, looks to be exactly the same cabin baggage details on the website as they have had for ages. What did I miss?

Whats new is that FR are now enforcing this tightly.

So you go through security , feel you want to buy a newspaper, and perhaps a box of chocs for the maiden aunt you are flying to visit. You get to the gate if the newspaper and the box of chocs are not jammed into your carryon bag , "you ain't getting on sir/madam , and if you argue Ill call security"

Rightly or wrongly this is apparently what is happening with numerous complaints from people being forced to crush stuff they have purchased in the airport shops into their carry on.

I am sure DAA , and other airports , will be starting to notice this at the tills of their shops, if this is a intentional byproduct of this policy of course is open to debate ( although perhaps not here ).

zeusnero

I flew from London Stansted to Milan yesterday with 3 pieces of hand luggage. One weighing 15kgs, the other was a small carry bag (2kgs) and also a bag full of shopping. Had no problems at the gate (The guy that weighed the bag at security did put a 'Heavy Load' sticker on the large bag but that came straight off once I cleared security) We may have to play Ryanair's game but nobody says you can't cheat

Tenger

zeusnero wrote: »

Had no problems at the gate (The guy that weighed the bag at security did put a 'Heavy Load' sticker on the large bag but that came straight off once I cleared security) We may have to play Ryanair's game but nobody says you can't cheat

As always this rule will be subjective. I feel that at some airports the handling agents may be more relaxed about it. However in DUB recently they are enforcing it strictly. All hand baggage is tagged and only tagged bags are allowed to be brought on. Any other items must be paid for,

robinph

Ahh that, so no change then? They have been that strict on the one bag rule for ages, it's just possibly not been quite as obvious in Dublin for a while.

Stevek101

If you have online checkin they don't check your luggage so it isn't only tagged bags that are allowed on. To be honest one bag will do. An airport isn't a shopping centre is it?

Tenger

robinph wrote: »

Ahh that, so no change then? They have been that strict on the one bag rule for ages, it's just possibly not been quite as obvious in Dublin for a while.

I think the change is that they now prevent all itmes apart from the single bag from being brought onboard. So airport shopping is only allowed if you still have room in your carry-on bag.

While airports may not be shopping centres many airports get a lot of revenue from the shops the have.

robinph

They have been applying that rule for a long time, just not being enforced by the Ryanair staff in Dublin. It has been very strictly enforced by the ServiceAir or other ground handling staff in the UK airports for ages though.

It's just that it is new for Dublin flights by the sound of it.

onemorechance

jahalpin wrote: »

I was just thinking about the new hand bagage restrictions that Ryanair have introduced.

I don't think they quite thought this one out fully.

Modedit: I don't think you've thought this post out fully, Forum Charter says no libelous content, and no airline bashing.

What are the new restrictions?

Stevek101

Bramble wrote: »

I think the change is that they now prevent all itmes apart from the single bag from being brought onboard. So airport shopping is only allowed if you still have room in your carry-on bag.

While airports may not be shopping centres many airports get a lot of revenue from the shops the have.

That is hardly Ryanairs concern. In all honestly is this one bag policy a big deal. At least I am ensured to have space for my bag above my seat.

The Orb

I heard that Ryanair are going to get cattle prods soon to get the livestock on the plane, is it true?

andy_g

The Orb wrote: »

I heard that Ryanair are going to get cattle prods soon to get the livestock on the plane, is it true?

yes yes we do how did you know our in most darkest secrets. oh wait i smell a troll.

please dont feed the trolls :P

pclancy

The Orb wrote: »

I heard that Ryanair are going to get cattle prods soon to get the livestock on the plane, is it true?

Very funny. Have a weeks ban.

Read the forum charter-No Trolling.

squonk

ned78 wrote: »

I've just cleaned up this thread. For the love of God would people, especially newer members of boards please read the charters and stickys of the forums you're posting in? It clearly says post nothing libelous, and no airline bashing.

For the time being, I'm just editing out the naughty stuff, but if the same people keep reoffending, they will be banned.

Please don't ban me but what's the point of an aviation thread that doesn't allow airline bashing? Over on the astronomy thread and the weather thread, you can bash astro societies and weather services/websites respectively so why not here? I know aviation is bigger than just airlines but surely it's perfectly acceptable to say 'I don't like airline X's policy of A, b & C' or whatever?

andy_g

squonk wrote: »

Please don't ban me but what's the point of an aviation thread that doesn't allow airline bashing? Over on the astronomy thread and the weather thread, you can bash astro societies and weather services/websites respectively so why not here? I know aviation is bigger than just airlines but surely it's perfectly acceptable to say 'I don't like airline X's policy of A, b & C' or whatever?

airline X,Y,Z is ok i would think once ya dont metion the airline itself but some of us would happen to work in airline A. also there is no bashing of the airlines that could lead to boards.ie having legal proceedings brought against them

digital_d

Hey - TBH I find all airlines are all very good at being very inconsistent when it comes to hand luggage.

I have noticed that on the most part they tend to ignore thier policy until it gets out of hand, then clamp down, then go lax again, gets out of hand and then etc.

I have noticed that generally handling agents are a bit more bothered than airlines own staff - for example Aer Lingus - when leaving Heathrow on several occasions the handlers have been great at the gate. And really well enforcing the policy taking bags away at the gate for the hold. Recently at Birmingham the handling agent have started to weigh and tag carry on bags when you check in hold luggage but not really pay any attention at the gate so the online check-in's get away with more.

The only way that the airlines will ever get hand luggage policies enforced is to consistently operate the same SOP's at all airports and for all flights

The big challenge for them all is how to fit that around the short turn arounds/reduced staff numbers/hold baggage fee structures that most airlines are adopting and get a consistent expectation out there for the customer.