Car Untaxed - still waiting on paperwork from Garage

musicfan

hi All

A friend of mine recently bought a pre registered car from a Garage. He has the car nearly 5 weeks and it is still untaxed as he is waiting for the Garage to send him the RF100(?) form which he has been told needs to come from the motor dealers. The Garage is still waiting on the paper work from the car maker.

What happens if he is stopped. Would the guards look favourably on this? He has been on to the garage every day but still no joy.

Is there anyway he can tax the car himself? He does not have any paperwork other than the form he signed the day he bought the car.

Thanks

Padraig Mor

As it is a pre-reg, it's quite possible that the garage will not put the car into his name for some months. Pre-reg cars are often ones that the garage has registered as demos with the distributor. As part of the deal, the garage are not allowed to sell the car for 3 - 6 months. To cover this up if they do sell it (without the distributor's permission), they will hang onto the registration cert in their own name until the time is up. This is illegal BTW.

This happened to me with my current car (although they took the money from me to tax it first day!). I wouldn't have minded so much if they had actually told me. Instead I only managed to force it out of them after repeated stalling re the reg cert.


BTW your friend can check if the car has been recorded as having changed ownership recently here:
https://www.motortax.ie/PSE/start.do;jsessionid=0aa0114730d805fdd30d7fcb4c008af4d0779b9b0751.e38PaNaSbh0RaO0LaNmRbxyTah4Pe0?page=welcome

leeroybrown

He should keep the sale form with him incase he's pulled over by the Gardaí. They'll be a lot more understanding if he can show proof that it was bought recently.

If they're acting the ass about it do the same. You've got plenty of options. Ask for them to pay the road tax. Tell them that you want your money back. Ring the distributor to complain. Ring the motor tax office to register a complaint.

vw4life

if your friend goes to their local tax office with their details and car details they can tax it and transfer the car ownership into your friends name

musicfan

No change of ownership has been recorded yet.

The garage is telling my friend that they need to get the RF 100 from first before they can tax it.

Surely my friend can't just go down to the tax office and say they want to tax the car? Do they not nedd the Vehicle Registration Cert to say it is their car?

MagicMarker

You only need a insurance cert to tax a car afaik.

Tech3

musicfan wrote: »

Surely my friend can't just go down to the tax office and say they want to tax the car? Do they not nedd the Vehicle Registration Cert to say it is their car?

I think you need a tax cert and the Vehicle Registration Cert to tax a newly bought car. If you have both of these, take them down to the local motor tax office. They will tax it for you and they will also send it away the reg cert to register the car under his name.

I think if he was stopped by the Gardai he should be fine if he can prove he just bought the car.

Padraig Mor

musicfan wrote: »

No change of ownership has been recorded yet.

The garage is telling my friend that they need to get the RF 100 from first before they can tax it.

Surely my friend can't just go down to the tax office and say they want to tax the car? Do they not nedd the Vehicle Registration Cert to say it is their car?

Ask the garage straight out if they have sent the reg cert off to Shannon. If they have, your friend should be getting his new cert very soon. If they haven't, they're either incompetent or up to something.

Standard Toaster

Just to jump on board here. I've recently bought a car private and the tax is just up at the end of March there.
From motortax.ie I can see the change of ownership.

Vehicle Registration Certificate
Most recent Vehicle Registration Certificate issued on : 31/03/2009

I've already recieved the logbook. Can I expect the RF100 form form to arrive with the PIN so I can tax online?

groomek

If the garda stop you and you have no tax you will get a 60euro fine.Same thing happened me a few months ago.

I showed the guard proof I had only bought the car a week previous but the fine was for not displaying a tax cert

Standard Toaster

Gash!

-Chris-

musicfan wrote: »

The garage is telling my friend that they need to get the RF 100 from first before they can tax it.

The RF100 is downloadable as a PDF when you're registering the car, the garage has access to it online.

Tell your friend to ask the garage to tax the car on his behalf and then post him the disk.
Once it's taxed they'll automatically get sent the VLC which can be used to do the change of ownership.

vw4life

musicfan wrote: »

Surely my friend can't just go down to the tax office and say they want to tax the car?

yep,they just want money and don't really mind who's giving it to them

lifer_sean

The_Edge wrote: »

Just to jump on board here. I've recently bought a car private and the tax is just up at the end of March there.
From motortax.ie I can see the change of ownership.



I've already recieved the logbook. Can I expect the RF100 form form to arrive with the PIN so I can tax online?

Car can't be taxed online after change of ownership. Need to download an old type RF100 and bring/post it to your local motor tax office. Next time round you should get the computer-generated one and be able to tax the car on line.

Standard Toaster

Cheers squire

L1011

groomek wrote: »

If the garda stop you and you have no tax you will get a 60euro fine.Same thing happened me a few months ago.

I showed the guard proof I had only bought the car a week previous but the fine was for not displaying a tax cert

This is what happens when the Guard is following the letter of the law, unfortunately

I went through a checkpoint when in a similar situation, Garda just asked when I'd bought the car and I told her I was "waiting on Shannon", docs wise. Got waved on with a laugh... but she could have gone for a fine if she'd wanted to.