Agel

Anon100

Has anyone any experience of this company or the "investment prospects"? It's a kind of if it sounds too good to be true scenario and I don't believe the monies claimed can actually be made.

Has anyone bought into this or know anything about the products? Is it just a pyramid scheme legalised by selling a product as well?

DubTony

Just checked their web site. I take it it's skin care and health drinks. It looks like a Network marketing or Multi-Level Marketing operation. Quite legal. Although you need to be one hell of a salesman to make it. Selling the business idea to others and recruiting them is more profitable than selling the products, and they usually keep these things legit by ensuring everyone has to sell a minimum number of items each week or month.

Tough business. Smooth talking types developing a network of mugs is how I see most of them.

Anon100

It's a multi level marketing thing, based around vitamins and skin care range. I suppose my question was does anyone apart from those at the top make actual money?

DubTony

It doesn't have much to do with the pyramid type structure of the whole operation. From time to time a superstar comes along a while after the thing has started. Sure it's good to be "in at the start" but if you don't develop a network you won't make any money worth talking about.

In this type of thing you're basically selling a business opportunity to people. Most people don't get it, or don't have it in them to handle the rejection that comes with it.

They'll tell you to go after your families and friends first and then you'll probably receive some training in how to pitch others. I did it 20 years ago and did ok. That was a perfume thing and recruiting people was as simple as walking. The number of people who made decent money from it was minimal. I quickly discovered that most of the "superstars" had been around that type of business for years and while I was trying to figure out how to recruit recruiters instead of the people who wanted some extra money by selling perfume, these guys were raping and pillaging similar companies of their top recruiters. Left a bad taste in my mouth. For me it was difficult to promise a guy the sun, moon and stars when I knew deep down that he'd more than likely simply give me some wholesale business for a few months while he tried to recruit his sister, neighbours and cousins.

You'll hear that "you don't have to be a salesman to make it", "there's no selling involved", and that you just "share with your friends", "some of them will join your business and the rest of them will buy the stuff from you because they're your friends". It's all BS.

If you could sell sand to the arabs, and ice to eskimos, you've a chance of making it in one of these things. But you'll need to spend almost all of your time thinking about your business and looking for available opportunities to recruit. It's very much a numbers game and not about how many jars of cream you can push. Recruiting people is one thing, but you make damn all if they don't make some money first. Tough business, with few real winners imo.

golfman

Strangely enough I got a call last night from an old colleague who wanted me to go to Citywest tonight for a talk from a company wanting people to sell vitamins and skincare products. "Apparently" loads of people are making money from it and he knew someone that was driving all the way from Kerry to attend....."so it must be good!" Ha ha. 1st question I asked was "is this a pyramid scheme?" Sounds so.

I'm going to assume due to the timing of this thread that the two are connected so I'll save my time and warn my old colleague off!

Thanks guys

Hennybug

golfman wrote: »

Strangely enough I got a call last night from an old colleague who wanted me to go to Citywest tonight for a talk from a company wanting people to sell vitamins and skincare products. "Apparently" loads of people are making money from it and he knew someone that was driving all the way from Kerry to attend....."so it must be good!" Ha ha. 1st question I asked was "is this a pyramid scheme?" Sounds so.

I'm going to assume due to the timing of this thread that the two are connected so I'll save my time and warn my old colleague off!

Thanks guys

Me too, not to go to Citywest but to meet an old friend so she could tell me all about it. Mine is definitely Agel and i was promised it was so new to Ireland that i'd be one of the ones at the top raking it in :rolleyes: I've asked for info to back up the financial claims so i can have an Accountant have a look at it

lecheile

Anon100 wrote: »

It's a multi level marketing thing, based around vitamins and skin care range. I suppose my question was does anyone apart from those at the top make actual money?

Anon - like all good ideas that seem too good to be true - do a bit of research and make up your own mind. A simple Google search for - 'Company name' MLM Scam - will deliver a whole load of differing opinions. You will get a very good sense as to what has been reported but its up to you to decide which ones to believe.

DubTony

Being that specific in a google search will certainly lead to all the negative answers you can expect. So many people have been / felt stung by these things that for every company there are a myriad of web sites telling anyone who'll read them how bad a given company is or how they lost all their money and all their friends. I'd recommend that anyone who has the slightest interest in an opportunity like this should take a look and make up their own minds.

Just be aware that the presentation is usually very slick, makes it all seem very easy and the "promise" of great riches will lurk in the background. (If you can get ten who get ten who get ten you'll make X amount per month based on everyone doing X amount per month.)

The problem with the whole system is that most of the people who get invoved don't come from a business background and make the decision based on emotion. Now that's fine if it's just going to cost you a couple of hundred euro to get started, but the sh*t hits the fan when unscrupulous sorts "encourage" people to buy their way to higher levels by purchasing stock and pushing stock on new recruits who realistically have no way to move it on; and that business is is full of chancers looking for a get rich quick scheme. Ironically, those are the very people who don't seem to make it.

But, hey, if there are people coming from Kerry .... :pac:

edit: I just googled Agel MLM SCAM. If I was inclined to get into something like this I wouldn't touch this one based on the structure. It's seems very complicated and has what's called spillover, where someone that a distributor recruits doesn't necessarilty become a personally recruited distributor but goes down the line to the next guy who doesn't have any distributors and it basically rewards people for doing nothing (sort of) .... oooh .... never mind.