SACK THE LOUTH MANAGER

garrincha62

Division 4 here we come. Time for EMcE to go. Shocking to be beaten by a county of hurlers.

bookiebasher

?????....the Louth manager has done a good job since he took over and Tipp are at the top of the table in div 3...Were you calling him a bad manager when Louth nearly(and should have)beat Cork in the qualifers 2 years ago after winning there division in the league...they also won the o byrne cup this year but you will tell me its a mickey mouse comp..

Same stuff about Gilroy with dublin..he is having a look at lads for the league and fellas on here looking for his head...

liamygunner29

excuse me mister.....we may well be a county of hurlers but today ye got beat by the best team in the division so dont feel to bad.

garrincha62

liamygunner29 wrote: »

excuse me mister.....we may well be a county of hurlers but today ye got beat by the best team in the division so dont feel to bad.

Ye fully deserved the victory and good luck to ye!

garrincha62

bookiebasher wrote: »

?????....the Louth manager has done a good job since he took over and Tipp are at the top of the table in div 3...Were you calling him a bad manager when Louth nearly(and should have)beat Cork in the qualifers 2 years ago after winning there division in the league...they also won the o byrne cup this year but you will tell me its a mickey mouse comp..

After a promising start, Louth just haven't progressed. Tipp are top of the table sure, but its a sad state of affairs in Louth football that we are struggling in Division 3.

I wasn't calling him a bad manager when we didn't beat Cork. He said he had a plan, a 5 year plan. Four years into it we are on the cusp of Div 4 and trips to play London. We've gone steadily backwards since then.

We won the O'Byrne Cup this year, I was at the game, some of the football was brutal. Nobody gives a rats arse about the competition. It's used as a run out for new players.


When the facts change I change my opinion, what do you do sir?

TommyT

I am an outsider so maybe I can be a bit objective.
Eamonn McEneaney has been living on the victory over Donegal in the Division 2 final for way too long. And lets be honest, there were two Division 1`s that year so Louth really won the third division in 2006. Louth have flattered to decieve ever since, with a half decent performance against Cork, though in truth Cork were much more comfortable winners than the scoreline suggests and a draw against a Tyrone side who were struggling badly at the time. Eamonn has a very limited track record as a manger before taking the Louth job, but if you were ever unlucky enough to meet him you would think he had managed the great Kerry team of the 70s and 80s, he is an arrogant pr*ck. Eamonn has one reason and one reason only for staying in the job, he is being handsomely rewarded for managing Louth, yet he was given a 5 year term without review. He will stay on as Louth manager until the 5 years is up and there is nothing your useless county board can do about it.
In saying that, his record at senior level is brilliant compared to his record at U21 level. They havent won a competitive game since he took over.
This current Louth side is never going to win an All Ireland, in fact there are only a handful of sides in the country capable of winning Sam, but Louth should be doing better than fighting off relegation from Division 3. Louth dont only need a new manager, they need to have a look at the county board and the under age structures within the county. The board is like an old boys club at the minute, with the same faces swapping posts once in a while.
Enjoy your trip to Ruislip next year, at least the old boys club will get some free flights out of all this.

southlouth type

TommyT wrote: »

I am an outsider so maybe I can be a bit objective.
Eamonn McEneaney has been living on the victory over Donegal in the Division 2 final for way too long. And lets be honest, there were two Division 1`s that year so Louth really won the third division in 2006. Louth have flattered to decieve ever since, with a half decent performance against Cork, though in truth Cork were much more comfortable winners than the scoreline suggests and a draw against a Tyrone side who were struggling badly at the time. Eamonn has a very limited track record as a manger before taking the Louth job, but if you were ever unlucky enough to meet him you would think he had managed the great Kerry team of the 70s and 80s, he is an arrogant pr*ck. Eamonn has one reason and one reason only for staying in the job, he is being handsomely rewarded for managing Louth, yet he was given a 5 year term without review. He will stay on as Louth manager until the 5 years is up and there is nothing your useless county board can do about it.
In saying that, his record at senior level is brilliant compared to his record at U21 level. They havent won a competitive game since he took over.
This current Louth side is never going to win an All Ireland, in fact there are only a handful of sides in the country capable of winning Sam, but Louth should be doing better than fighting off relegation from Division 3. Louth dont only need a new manager, they need to have a look at the county board and the under age structures within the county. The board is like an old boys club at the minute, with the same faces swapping posts once in a while.
Enjoy your trip to Ruislip next year, at least the old boys club will get some free flights out of all this.

couldnt agree more .What a poor posiotion we have ended up in .The whole thing needs to be changed from the inside .There are better players in the county currently than whats being used .

dundalkbhoy

it will be tough against cavan on sunday but i think louth will just about
do enough for the win:cool:

indiewindy

What can he do, there are very few quality players in the squad, he only gets expenses as salary so would cost sfa to sack him

TommyT

So what do you all think of the manager now?
He`ll come out with the usual nonsense about a great Louth fightback, but in truth Laois stopped playing after 50 minutes, they had the game won by then.

andrew1977

For the past number of seasons in championship games, louth have conceded/given away silly goals.
Each game it has happened, the blame lays firmly at the goalkeeper Stuart Reynolds door, i dont know what comes over him, but he cannot stay in his goals and leave the back line defending to his full backs most of the time.

Yesterday again, he had no business coming for a ball which his full back would have got no problem.

Thats my rant over, its just my observation from going to louth games for the past few seasons.

garrincha62

Where is his 5 year plan now? We were better 5 years ago. Time to go.

southlouth type

same old strory .get batterd in the first half then claw there way back in the second .not good enough .What was snitchy thinking for that goal ffs :rolleyes:

TommyT

Its very easy to blame the keeper and overlook the manager.

macadam

Did not go to see them since the humiliating way they went down in the league against offaly, swore I would not go again so long as that thick c**t is still manager.
This is the first year i never seen them play in the Leinster championship in over 30odd years, they are woeful and the management is the worst we ever had.

Sack him asap.

kingshankly

andrew1977 wrote: »

For the past number of seasons in championship games, louth have conceded/given away silly goals.
Each game it has happened, the blame lays firmly at the goalkeeper Stuart Reynolds door, i dont know what comes over him, but he cannot stay in his goals and leave the back line defending to his full backs most of the time.

Yesterday again, he had no business coming for a ball which his full back would have got no problem.

Thats my rant over, its just my observation from going to louth games for the past few seasons.

Reynolds record in goal is incredible he didn't get voted player of the year for nothing and has conceded feck all in championship football the last few years . Nonsense saying he shouldn't have come for the ball of course he did. Every keeper should command his six yard area and normally it's a type of catch he makes easily. Check out Reynolds record in goal before you make an ilinformed post again.
Time for the manager to go has faith in too many players that arnt up to it I know were not blessed with footballers but surely we have a better 15 in the county
Please god the juniors to us proud Sunday week

TommyT

6 yard area? Maybe you should be watching Dundalk v Drogheda.

A couple of years ago most of the Louth squad were laying bets on Snitchy to score a point from a free against Wicklow, they were that confident of beating them. You couldnt get a bookie in town to take the bet by the friday before the game. To cut a long story short Snitchy didnt get a chance to score from a free, Louth only just beat Wicklow after a second replay. Surely any manger worth his salt would not allow nonsense like this to happen, the entire squad were taking Wicklow so lightly that they were betting on the keeper to score.

andrew1977

kingshankly wrote: »

Reynolds record in goal is incredible he didn't get voted player of the year for nothing and has conceded feck all in championship football the last few years . Nonsense saying he shouldn't have come for the ball of course he did. Every keeper should command his six yard area and normally it's a type of catch he makes easily. Check out Reynolds record in goal before you make an ilinformed post again.
Time for the manager to go has faith in too many players that arnt up to it I know were not blessed with footballers but surely we have a better 15 in the county
Please god the juniors to us proud Sunday week

I can think of 3 off hand in the past couple of seasons where he has made mistakes
Dublin in the Leinster Championship last season
Tyrone in the Gaelic grounds Drogheda
Laois on Sunday.

The results might not have turned out in our favour but his mistakes were costly at a time when we were still in the match,.

dundalkbhoy

andrew1977 wrote: »

I can think of 3 off hand in the past couple of seasons where he has made mistakes
Dublin in the Leinster Championship last season
Tyrone in the Gaelic grounds Drogheda
Laois on Sunday.

The results might not have turned out in our favour but his mistakes were costly at a time when we were still in the match,.

in that tyrone match he got awarded save of the season.

garrincha62

It is just so horribly depressing that other small and weak counties have their day in the sun (like Sligo 2007 or even Antrim this year) and Louth just never, ever beat anyone decent. Ever. Okay, we were robbed in Navan against Meath a few years back and were unlucky not to beat a declining Tyrone at the same venue, but that is about it.

Roll on the qualifiers, hopefully we might get a run in those before a Westmeath or a Wexford hammer us. Oh the optimism!

TommyT

You werent robbed in Navan against Meath. Louth had plenty of chances to kill the game, yet they allowed a man to go through the defence almost unchallenged and score a decisive goal. He should have ended up in the middle of the terrace behind the goal when he was near the endline. The Louth defence didnt make one telling challenge. You dont beat the likes of Meath by being nice.
We wont mention the fact that Louth didnt score in the second half against Meath in Croke Park a couple of years ago. Hardly Snitchies fault?

garrincha62

TommyT wrote: »

You werent robbed in Navan against Meath.

We'll agree to differ on this one. The amount of injury time was criminal.

TommyT wrote: »

We wont mention the fact that Louth didnt score in the second half against meat in Croke Park a couple of years ago. Hardly Snitchies fault

No, this was indeed a particular lowpoint.

dundalkbhoy

louth now face tipperary at home in qualifiers

TommyT

Should be an easy win for Tipp.

kingshankly

shut the door behind you

TommyT

southlouth type

The players deserve a bollocking for that display last night , the finishing was pathetic .As for jp and that penalty :mad: we would have won if that had of gone in . Didnt deserve it though , would only delay the agony .Crap , pathetic :eek:

Darlie

For a man who didn't deserve to be appointed in the first place, the fact that he has a 5th season to look forward to is yet another indictment in the long list of county board disasters. I would write off the next ten years, (the next 50 if county board continue to be infested by the same self serving twats), get the club and underage structure sorted and to hell with the senior inter county team until that happens (which could be never as turkeys don't vote for christmas so none of the senior clubs will vote for the medium/long term good of the county if it means short term changes for their own club).
But to get back to the point, absolutely no way EmcE should be retained.

TommyT

The Louth manager will be staying on for his fifth and final year in charge.

Marko999

Its so sad to think that at 40 years of age, I have not even seen my county play in a Leinsetr final at Minor or Senior Level. Starting from the top at County Board level, we need a clear out. Not sure if we have a leading light who can lead this as I have lost all interest in the structures. Its a bit like watching FF run the country, they are there so long that they dont even realise that they are doing a bad job.

pancake_tuesday

What a joke. Things obviously arnt being done right. Terrible runs in the Leinster championship and getting worse every year in the league. And it doesn't look like its gonna get much better after the Minor team getting absolutly hammered by Dublin and being knocked out after the first game of the qualifiers.

joehandyman

I am not from Louth so therefore my view is independent. EMcE is a good manager and has done a good job with the limited resources that are available to him.

Lets be honest, Louth club football is of a very poor standard and this is reflected through the county team. A lot of the players are extremely average (and some well below average) and may not even be on the panel let alone the team of the top ten county teams in Ireland.

Think he should stay and perhaps the county board could consider developing underage football in the county, which might one day produce some decent players for the county team.........Sorry to be so critical, but it's true in my view......

Kenteach

At least he did the honourable thing, eventually. Cue the county board to go and hire an equally incompetent manager.

Are we in a better position now, in any way, to the day McEnaney took over? The answer has to be a quite categorical no effing way.

Of course the structures, ability level, underage set up, etc are equally as shambolic as the senior team, so regardless of who steps in, we won't see any imporvement while same suits are involved and same club voting patterns remain - the end product is stagnation at best, further deterioration at worst.

garrincha62

I agree. To even dream that a Joe Kernan would be interested in Lú would be far fetched.

Still, delighted the baseball wearing master tactician is gone, worse off then when he found us. Did I hear Colm Nally/Colin Kelly dream team being touted?

Bring back Declan Smyth, thats what I say!!

Kenteach

Declan Smyth would do a better job than McEnaney, wouldn't touch the job with a barge pole, however. Likewise I'd be surprised if Nally/Kelly took over. If they are such a dream team, and I remain to be convinced, then let them develop things at underage. Nothing can be done with the current crop of seniors, and thats just the truth of the matter. they could destroy any coaching future they have by taking the senior job now. What we need is a ten (yes 10) year development plan at the very least. What is needed to head up that development plan is someone who has been involved in that kind of operation before. Not many home growns jump out, but we don't need a big name, we only need someone who knows what they are doing.

My name is URL

I heard Stefan White might be offered the job. Dunno if it's just rumour though.

His dad Stephen died on Sunday, arguably Louth's best ever player.. so RIP to him

gernon

Well seems like Peter Fitzpatrick has taken the reins in Louth, any opinions ?

macadam

Fitzer's a good man he was with the o connells, the pats and a few teams in Monaghan, he wont lack motivation , and expect some new faces as selectors and players . Best of luck to him its one tough thankless job, especially after that other thick eejit left it in such a state.

kingshankly

fitzer wont come cheap that's for sure.a great motivator but tactically naive. think he will be only good for one season as there is only so far fffing and blinding will get you