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Do away with money

  • 29-03-2009 10:07am
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    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭




    Do away with money

    Because of the monetary system, modern society as we know it today is based around the idea of profit and we as human being are not getting as much out of life as we should be.

    The government (govern=control, ment=mind) has been getting away controlling our lives for too long.
    We are all born as property of the government (your birth certificate has your given name written in all capital letters, as with your social insurance card and all other government issued entities. This is the governments way of owning you and making profit off of you [taxes, etc.] and cannot do so by using your given name [in lower case letters] because with your given name, your parents "own" you and are just an animal existing).

    We all grow up with faulty, narrow-minded, useless education, and we are then, once completing high school, expected to work as a way to get away from the work or fight in the war as a way to end all wars. Why don't we have a choice as to how we live our lives without being ostracized by society and government for doing our own thing, living life exactly they way we want? Why should we have to work 40 long, dreaded hours, in and every week, just to pay things that shouldn't have to be bought in the first place.

    Most problems in the world today stem from money (war, poverty, murder, divorce, faulty products that break down after a period of time[ipods, toasters, computers, vehicles]). If there was NO MONEY in existence, we would still be able to manufacture everything we are manufacturing today! Money only has value and usefulness because we believe in it and support it and fantasize over having lots of it! It's only a matter of time before The Zeitgeist Movement really starts rolling and mass amounts of people being learning and understanding why life is the way it is and finally end this nonsense by ending their support towards money.

    Agree?

    What is it about america that causes so many of them to be emo/anarchists/idiots? I read the above and it had 6 pages of people agreeing..

    Or is that just a generalisation?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭orlyice


    I get it. He wants Communism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Anarchists do my head in. They're the most stubborn and clueless troop of retards in the world. Most of them have no idea of or don't care that most people in the world want to live in a society that's protected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    He's neither an anarchist nor a communist. Most of what he said makes sence, bar the last papargraph which is farcical.

    EDIT second paragrpah as well (which is more tha 50% of the post, I know!)
    Btw - OP - have you got a link ot the rest of the article? Would be interested in reading it IN context

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    Which were they agreeing with? The problems that he listed there or the solution he offered. If merely the former then the 6 pages of responses are correct.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    OP - have you got a link ot the rest of the article? Would be interested in reading it IN context

    i clicked a random day and that article came up.. i'll have a look for it now. the website uses frames so history doesn't work for it...
    Mr.Lizard wrote: »
    Which were they agreeing with? The problems that he listed there or the solution he offered. If merely the former then the 6 pages of responses are correct.

    agreeing with everything he wrote pretty much..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    i clicked a random day and that article came up.. i'll have a look for it now. the website uses frames so history doesn't work for it...


    http://www.nexopia.com/article.php?id=26516


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭ferrigan101


    Oh what a brave new world he talks of. i get what hes saying but who does he think is going to work 40 hours? Sounds like he wants the proles to do it while he 'enjoys' life. Fekin lazy dole monkey!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    What really limits us in our ability to do what/when we like is our tendency, as a species, to shift blame onto concepts undeserving of it in an entirely monochrome way of thinking.
    For starters, your breakdown of the etymology of "government" is entirely off, which gives a strong indication as to the extent you are willing to actually research the things you presume to comment on. Money, while truly the root of all evil, is valuable not only as a universal trading standard, but also as a measurement of a country's economic well-being. You may say "Well, without money, we wouldn't have to be concerned about economics", but, yes, of course we would, because humans have the intellectual capacity of crows when it comes to ownership. We like shiny **** and we like keeping it all to ourselves, regardless of how we are educated. The concept of ownership, be it group or private, is a fundamental aspect of human nature. If we didn't use money, we'd have to use some other standard, such as land, labour, goats, or what have you; simply giving things away doesn't work, unfortunately. Money isn't evil, evil greedy pricks are evil. And money doesn't create greed, either, so don't bother making that all-too-flimsy argument.
    As a final note, your article's fate is sealed by your citing the Zeitgeist 'Movement'. You open with idiocy then close with it, which is a terrible way of convincing anybody of anything, especially half-cocked concepts like Utopian models of Communism. Your heart is in the right place, but you need to do a hell of a lot more reading before you can prove that to people on paper.

    A bit less dramatically here. Love the comparison between himans and crows "we like shiny **** and we like keeping it to ourselves".

    He's right though: it's not money that is evil it's greed. And I'd add fear and insecurity to that list as well, both of which would still exist if we got rid of money.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Oh what a brave new world he talks of. i get what hes saying but who does he think is going to work 40 hours? Sounds like he wants the proles to do it while he 'enjoys' life. Fekin lazy dole monkey!

    How did you read that?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    why didn't i think of google :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Go live in a cave, hippy.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    you do know i didn't write that ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    A bit less dramatically here. Love the comparison between himans and crows "we like shiny **** and we like keeping it to ourselves".

    He's right though: it's not money that is evil it's greed. And I'd add fear and insecurity to that list as well, both of which would still exist if we got rid of money.


    Exactly! If money is done away with, a new form of currency will take it's place. Everyone want's rewarding for the skills they put to use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Terry wrote: »
    Go live in a cave, hippy.

    And get a hiarcut?
    Soap?
    Drink some cider ya crusty?
    Smoke some weed?

    Any other ignorant stereotypes you wwant to throw in there...?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    And get a hiarcut?
    Soap?
    Drink some cider ya crusty?
    Smoke some weed?

    Any other ignorant stereotypes you wwant to throw in there...?

    out of nowhere? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭ferrigan101


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    How did you read that?
    We all grow up with faulty, narrow-minded, useless education, and we are then, once completing high school, expected to work as a way to get away from the work or fight in the war as a way to end all wars. Why don't we have a choice as to how we live our lives without being ostracized by society and government for doing our own thing, living life exactly they way we want? Why should we have to work 40 long, dreaded hours, in and every week, just to pay things that shouldn't have to be bought in the first place.[QUOTE/]




    Just the way i read it.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    out of nowhere? :confused:

    Ask Terry. He seems to know everything.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    We all grow up with faulty, narrow-minded, useless education, and we are then, once completing high school, expected to work as a way to get away from the work or fight in the war as a way to end all wars. Why don't we have a choice as to how we live our lives without being ostracized by society and government for doing our own thing, living life exactly they way we want? Why should we have to work 40 long, dreaded hours, in and every week, just to pay things that shouldn't have to be bought in the first place.[QUOTE/]




    Just the way i read it.....

    He says "We". Including himself. Repeatedly. Not "you".

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭SoWatchaWant


    "There are systems for a reason in this world. Economic stability, interest rates, growth. It’s not all a conspiracy to keep you in little boxes. Alright? It’s only the miracle of consumer capitalism that means you’re not lying in your own ****, dying at 43 with rotten teeth. And a little pill with a chicken on it is not going to change that. Now go on... **** off. "

    Quite relevant to our friend in California there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    I'd agree about he education bit.


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